Friday night fixture changes

[Dr Balls]

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

[Red Rum]

50 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

Agree the changes are a pain but both were announced weeks ago:

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/sky-date-revealed-for-city/

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/burton-home-game-moved/

[Littlesh*t]

2 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

it may not suit you but what about all the season ticket holders and other fans that couldn't make the Saturday but can now watch it.  

everyone knows every year that the fixtures aren't 100 % accurate and you can expect changes, there is no point moaning about it unless it was done at ridiculously short notice (which it wasnt). 

oh and of course you won't get your money back for the 2 games, like you say there is a contract in place, which was certainly in place well before you purchased it!

[The_Don]

To be fair the clubs announced the changes weeks ago and football fixtures are always subject to change.

With regards to the club being offered sky's filthy lucre, I don't believe they have much say in it and if they did they wouldn't turn down the chance of extra revenue and the chance of national exposure.

On the other hand I dislike the change, can't beat Saturday 3pm's but it's now the norm for these changes to happen. Heaven forbid if we ever make it to the Premier League.

[CyderInACan]

I think from memory this is the first ever home game we've had rearranged for Sky, so I share your frustration. I'm sure the club will send you some food vouchers by way of an apology. 

Seriously though this was announced WEEKS ago. And it's been happening for YEARS. Cup games, waterlogged pitches, icy stands, television games have all affected the fixture list for donkeys years. If you can't go I'm sure someone would love to have your ticket in exchange for a few beers. 

[Monkeh]

3 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

We were told about the fixture changes 3 weeks ago at least 

[MarcusX]

4 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

I think from memory this is the first ever home game we've had rearranged for Sky, so I share your frustration. I'm sure the club will send you some food vouchers by way of an apology. 

Seriously though this was announced WEEKS ago. And it's been happening for YEARS. Cup games, waterlogged pitches, icy stands, television games have all affected the fixture list for donkeys years. If you can't go I'm sure someone would love to have your ticket in exchange for a few beers. 

Might be sarcasm? Huddersfield last season immediately springs to mind plus probably many more.

definitely been a Friday for ages because I marked it as a game I can actually go to

[Redtucks]

3 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night.

This was originally announced on the 3rd of July!

 

[Toffee dog]

2 minutes ago, Redtucks said:

This was originally announced on the 3rd of July!

 

Yes  it was but I also work in the NHS & are duty is done months in advance e.g. request are not out for November. Noticed Villa game had been changed back then, but than period of the rota was being done then luckily they were able to accommodate. Didn't realise Burton game had been changed so might not be so lucky this time! 

[Mad Cyril]

14 minutes ago, Redtucks said:

This was originally announced on the 3rd of July!

 

Well that would have been a ridiculous date for the game and I would have been on holiday.

Well done Bristol City for moving this fixture to August. COYR.

[Northern Red]

Burton isn't on TV, it's because Rovers are at home on the same weekend and one of us has to swap. 

[Robin Goch]

Pathetic, needless rant aimed at the club. You should have checked weeks back.

As someone who lives and works in Cardiff, night matches are a pain to get to and sometimes not possible at all for me but I accept that when I buy a season ticket.

If you're willing to match the money Sky are paying our club I'm sure they'd be willing to rearrange for you...

[Davefevs]

Just playing devils advocate - the club announced it on the website and social media, but did they email us?  I can't remember. 

Sone people don't go to the OS nor social media. 

Then again the likes of BA don't advise me when one if their flights changes by a couple of hours!

[exAtyeoMax]

7 minutes ago, Robin Goch said:

Pathetic, needless rant aimed at the club. You should have checked weeks back.

As someone who lives and works in Cardiff, night matches are a pain to get to and sometimes not possible at all for me but I accept that when I buy a season ticket.

If you're willing to match the money Sky are paying our club I'm sure they'd be willing to rearrange for you...

Hardly pathetic and needless, I'd say.

I've had to take a day's holiday to be able to come to the Villa game, probably won't for the Burton game because I don't have many days left. Why can't the changes be made before the fixtures are released? 

[Monkeh]

Just now, exAtyeoMax said:

Hardly pathetic and needless, I'd say.

I've had to take a day's holiday to be able to come to the Villa game, probably won't for the Burton game because I don't have many days left. Why can't the changes be made before the fixtures are released? 

because sky haven't picked the games they are showing because the fixtures haven't been released, the police haven't asked us to move a game because they haven't got the resource to police both games on the same day, they can't ask us to change it because the fixtures haven't been released

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

because sky haven't picked the games they are showing because the fixtures haven't been released, the police haven't asked us to move a game because they haven't got the resource to police both games on the same day, they can't ask us to change it because the fixtures haven't been released

Why can't SKY discuss the fixtures with the football league before they are released? The Police are consulted on certain games beforehand, why not others? It's not that difficult to sort out in a matter of days of the fixtures being released, and constantly change them throughout the season.

[Monkeh]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Why can't SKY discuss the fixtures with the football league before they are released? The Police are consulted on certain games beforehand, why not others? It's not that difficult to sort out in a matter of days of the fixtures being released, and constantly change them throughout the season.

You need to take that up with the police, sky and the football league, you're blaming the club for something beyond their control 

[exAtyeoMax]

7 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

You need to take that up with the police, sky and the football league, you're blaming the club for something beyond their control 

I'm not blaming the club for anything 

[EnclosureSurge]

Following on from Dave Fevs' devil's advocate, I think some people are missing Dr Balls' point - not everyone can change their work shifts even weeks in advance, it needs to be months. July 3rd means nothing if the Villa game is less than 2 months later and (s)he needs more than 2 months notice. Not sure why people can't understand that. Yes games have been rearranged for years, but how do we know this isn't Dr Balls' first season with a season ticket, due to work commitments? I think a little more sympathy would be nice. 

[Port Said Red]

I have been a season ticket holder for years now, but as my job involves travelling across the country, I am pretty much resigned to missing most week night games. I  understand this when I buy the ticket but the fact is that it still works out cheaper for me than buying individual tickets for games I can attend. Perhaps the OP should consider this before asking for their money back.

[Robin Goch]

29 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Hardly pathetic and needless, I'd say.

I've had to take a day's holiday to be able to come to the Villa game, probably won't for the Burton game because I don't have many days left. Why can't the changes be made before the fixtures are released? 

Like I said, I will probably have to do the same for both games but I don't feel inclined to aim a rant at the club like Dr Balls. That's why it's pathetic and needless in my eyes.

[bobbyhutchscurlymullet]

The villa game is the day we come back from holiday. I've had to tell the missus we have to leave early enough to make sure I get back for the game. 

I fully expect bcfc to compensate me for the earplugs and paracetamol I've now had to buy to save my hearing and cure my headaches. Rant over. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Friday night football...

The changes were announced a while ago, especially the Villa one

Friday night football in general...nothing new..I remember 00-01 season, Wilson's first year.

3 Friday night games at least, all excellent games from what I recall. Especially the Bristol derby and Millwall game.

Possibly the only one on this thread who quite enjoys Friday night games? Bit of atmosphere under the floodlights etc.

That said, I do sympathise with the OP also. Rotas arranged long long time in advance are generally fairly watertight.

[iamalagerdrinker]

Feel sorry for Sheff Wednesday who don't have a 15:00 kick off at home till we play them in November 

[Bar BS3]

29 minutes ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Following on from Dave Fevs' devil's advocate, I think some people are missing Dr Balls' point - not everyone can change their work shifts even weeks in advance, it needs to be months. July 3rd means nothing if the Villa game is less than 2 months later and (s)he needs more than 2 months notice. Not sure why people can't understand that. Yes games have been rearranged for years, but how do we know this isn't Dr Balls' first season with a season ticket, due to work commitments? I think a little more sympathy would be nice. 

Not quite the OP's point though, is it..?

He's complaining about being given 1 weeks notice, when it's actually been changed and publicised since early July for Villa and weeks ago for Burton. 

I know fixture changes annoy some people and help others. His complain is invalid because what he's complaining about (1weeks notice) isn't valid. 

[Tinmans Love Child]

Dr Balls, if you bought a season ticket thinking that no fixtures would ever get changed then at best you must be extremely naive, there are always changes to fixtures (as there have been for years) and not just for TV but as others have mentioned fixture clashes with Rovers, cup ties etc etc.

if your job doesn't allow for changing shifts etc then you really need to have taken that into account when you purchased the season ticket as there will always be a few games that will clash with your shifts surely?

As others have mentioned, the club advised of this change to a Friday night in early July I.e. when the Sky game was announced, that's the best part of 7 weeks before the Villa game and only 2 weeks after the fixtures were released.  

Why not look at other options for utilising your season ticket for this game instead?  This change has nothing to do with the club and IMO they have done all they can to advise, would be interested what more you think they could have done?

[man in the middle]

28 minutes ago, iamalagerdrinker said:

Feel sorry for Sheff Wednesday who don't have a 15:00 kick off at home till we play them in November 

 And Leeds united 

[pongo88]

4 hours ago, Red Rum said:

Agree the changes are a pain but both were announced weeks ago:

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/sky-date-revealed-for-city/

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/burton-home-game-moved/

The problem with this is it depends on supporters looking at the City website to be kept inform. Many people, including myself, never do this. The majority of supporters also never look at the forum. It would have taken the same amount of effort for City to send a text or email immediately the changes were made as it did to send them a couple of days ago. There seems to be no problem in sending emails when City want something - e g renewing season tickets.  In general, the City IT systems have room for improvement, and this is another example. We hear a lot about "the project" so have about a project to improve IT and communication?

[1bristolcity]

Proper Balls up then. Well at least we will have cover at the BRI if the Villa kick off.

[Dr Balls]

31 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

The problem with this is it depends on supporters looking at the City website to be kept inform. Many people, including myself, never do this. The majority of supporters also never look at the forum. It would have taken the same amount of effort for City to send a text or email immediately the changes were made as it did to send them a couple of days ago. There seems to be no problem in sending emails when City want something - e g renewing season tickets.  In general, the City IT systems have room for improvement, and this is another example. We hear a lot about "the project" so have about a project to improve IT and communication?

Thank you for spotting the real issue and the object of my frustration. For professional reasons I don't do Facebook or Twitter, and no I don't regularly go on the club website. So yes the email was the first I knew about the change of date, and that should have been sent as soon as the club knew. It wouldn't have taken any more effort than posting on Facebook or wherever it was announced other than the website. I now know for Burton well in advance. Still probably won't make it. And if it's because both ourselves and the Gas are home on the same weekend, rather than the TV, how did that get past the League when the fixtures first went out?

And yes I was being sarcastic about being reimbursed, and even if I had known sooner, I probably still wouldn't have been able to swap as it's bank holiday weekend.  And don't discount the traffic problems...

The other issue is fans being screwed over by the vagaries of TV schedules. And yes some clubs have it worse than us in this league, but get into the Premier League and you could in theory be playing a weekend fixture anywhere between Thursday night and Monday night. For those of us with busy lives, including work & family commitments (yes I know that they come a distant second to City for some on here) how on earth do you factor that in when trying to support your team?

[Cider-Head23]

6 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

No offence, but where an earth have you been hiding if your are only just aware of the fixture changes.. Sky and then City released details of the fixture change due to the game being televised weeks ago,

and the Burton fixture change was released a few weeks later. I understand your frustration, we all would rather both games be Saturday 3pm.. but it's not like these things aren't expected.

Where on sky 2 or 3 times a year.. so fixture changes will happen. The club holds no blame over this what so ever. You buy a season ticket it's your responsibility to make the games as and when they are. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Following on from Dave Fevs' devil's advocate, I think some people are missing Dr Balls' point - not everyone can change their work shifts even weeks in advance, it needs to be months. July 3rd means nothing if the Villa game is less than 2 months later and (s)he needs more than 2 months notice. Not sure why people can't understand that. Yes games have been rearranged for years, but how do we know this isn't Dr Balls' first season with a season ticket, due to work commitments? I think a little more sympathy would be nice. 

There's not even 2 months between the fixtures being announced and the first game of the season. Unfortunately I think if you routinely need that sort of notice for time off that's a grievance to have with your HR department not anyone else.

Having said that, would it be such a bad thing if the club had a special allowance for NHS or others in uniform who help keep us safe who might need more notice for time off? Take Villa for instance, how difficult for the club to "buy back" the seat for that game and resell it - at a potd markup too!! Little bit of admin for a nice touch.

[Major Isewater]

6 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

You're absolutely right , the club should consult every supporter before changing games .

[shelts]

6 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

So just over a week before we are due to play Villa, I get the email from the club telling me that the game is now on Friday night. Also that the Burton game in October is also moving to Friday night.

As a medical professional, who has to work nights and weekends and has to arrange my rota months in advance, this is particularly annoying as I am working both Friday nights, so that I could be free on the Saturday for the games. I am not going to get a swap for the Villa game so late especially with it being a bank holiday weekend in August with colleagues away on holiday, and swapping for Burton is going to be well nigh impossible as well, as my rota is so tight on numbers.

Presumably the club have been offered Sky's filthy lucre to change the fixtures. No thought to the fans particularly season ticket holders who do a fare amount of organising just to get to matches. And driving to the Villa game from Birmingham or anywhere outside Bristol via a motorway on the Friday evening of the last summer Bank Holiday weekend is going to be nightmare, even if you are free to attend that evening.

So Adam B, can I claim back the cost of those 2 games on my West Stand (sorry Lansdown Stand) season ticket on the basis that you have changed the dates of the games? I am guessing not as in the weaseley contract terms there will be likely something about the dates of games can be changed at short notice. However the reality is that the only losers in this scenario are the season ticket holders who can no longer attend the games. Plus how many more times is this going to happen this season? A few more games switching, plus not being able to attend the odd midweek game due to having to be elsewhere in the country, and suddenly a season ticket becomes more of a generous investment in the club, rather than a convenient way to see games at home at a reasonable price, and sit near my mates & friends.

NOT HAPPY!!

A mate of mine is a season ticket holder at Saints and has forgotten the last time his team played Saturday 3pm. Sky are the paymasters and call the tunes 

[Cider-Head23]

6 minutes ago, shelts said:

A mate of mine is a season ticket holder at Saints and has forgotten the last time his team played Saturday 3pm. Sky are the paymasters and call the tunes 

Let me help him out.. last Saturday!! 

[shelts]

1 minute ago, Cider-Head23 said:

Let me help him out.. last Saturday!! 

:laugh: it's not the norm anymore was the point I was making !!

[shelts]

Touché 

[Dr Balls]

3 hours ago, MarcusX said:

Might be sarcasm? Huddersfield last season immediately springs to mind plus probably many more.

Yes the Huddesfield game was changed and missed that one too as working...

[Super]

29 minutes ago, shelts said:

A mate of mine is a season ticket holder at Saints and has forgotten the last time his team played Saturday 3pm. Sky are the paymasters and call the tunes 

Fair enough really. Clubs are happy to take the cash rubbish for the fans but they are forgotten about these days.

[EnclosureSurge]

2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Not quite the OP's point though, is it..?

He's complaining about being given 1 weeks notice, when it's actually been changed and publicised since early July for Villa and weeks ago for Burton. 

I know fixture changes annoy some people and help others. His complain is invalid because what he's complaining about (1weeks notice) isn't valid. 

Not if he's someone who doesn't digest football 24/7. There are people like that. People who have 'lives' and only think about football every so often. If he doesn't look at the official site and the club leave a yawning gap of 6 weeks between the change of a fixture and emailing about it, he's got a valid point. Why the club can't automatically inform people of quite important things like this, as soon as they're decided, I don't know. In this day and age...modern technology...modern football club etc He's got a valid point for me.

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Not if he's someone who doesn't digest football 24/7. There are people like that. People who have 'lives' and only think about football every so often. If he doesn't look at the official site and the club leave a yawning gap of 6 weeks between the change of a fixture and emailing about it, he's got a valid point. Why the club can't automatically inform people of quite important things like this, as soon as they're decided, I don't know. In this day and age...modern technology...modern football club etc He's got a valid point for me.

Agreed. I'm currently looking at my account with the club. It lists all the matches loaded onto my ST with the correct KO times. Shouldn't be over-complex to automatically email ST holders at the same time as adjusting the KO times of matches.

[CyderInACan]

3 minutes ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Not if he's someone who doesn't digest football 24/7. There are people like that. People who have 'lives' and only think about football every so often. If he doesn't look at the official site and the club leave a yawning gap of 6 weeks between the change of a fixture and emailing about it, he's got a valid point. Why the club can't automatically inform people of quite important things like this, as soon as they're decided, I don't know. In this day and age...modern technology...modern football club etc He's got a valid point for me.

You're quite right of course, if the club have the capacity to email now then there's obviously no reason why they couldn't have done it in tandem with the announcement on the website/twitter a/c etc

 

@AdamB is this something that can be fed back and implemented please? Seems like a quick win to me.  

[Bristol Rob]

10 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

You're quite right of course, if the club have the capacity to email now then there's obviously no reason why they couldn't have done it in tandem with the announcement on the website/twitter a/c etc

 

@AdamB is this something that can be fed back and implemented please? Seems like a quick win to me.  

Oddly, I had a text from my old man last night regarding the changes, the first he knew of it was because of the email*.

On reflection, I probably should have told him a while back.

*That was sent to my mother as he doesn't to technology, I once popped round to visit them and he was watching Sky Arts, when I asked him why, it was because he wasn't sure how to turn the telly over.

[myol'man]

Wait til we reach the promised land, kick off times will be all over the place 

[CyderInACan]

30 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Oddly, I had a text from my old man last night regarding the changes, the first he knew of it was because of the email*.

On reflection, I probably should have told him a while back.

*That was sent to my mother as he doesn't to technology, I once popped round to visit them and he was watching Sky Arts, when I asked him why, it was because he wasn't sure how to turn the telly over.

You sure it wasn't because Lovejoy was on there?

[Bristol Rob]

8 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

You sure it wasn't because Lovejoy was on there?

Nah, the old dear has an interest in paintings and all that high brow stuff.

You'd have thought by now he'd have trained her to put on a cowboy film before she went out for the evening.

[Bar BS3]

58 minutes ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Not if he's someone who doesn't digest football 24/7. There are people like that. People who have 'lives' and only think about football every so often. If he doesn't look at the official site and the club leave a yawning gap of 6 weeks between the change of a fixture and emailing about it, he's got a valid point. Why the club can't automatically inform people of quite important things like this, as soon as they're decided, I don't know. In this day and age...modern technology...modern football club etc He's got a valid point for me.

I agree that there is no reason for major changes like a fixture change to be emailed directly to all supporters on the database, not just season ticket holders. 

It has been changed for some time and it certainly has been made clear, but yes, for those who don't look at anything football related, it should still be directly advised. 

[Bristol Rob]

7 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I agree that there is no reason for major changes like a fixture change to be emailed directly to all supporters on the database, not just season ticket holders. 

It has been changed for some time and it certainly has been made clear, but yes, for those who don't look at anything football related, it should still be directly advised. 

And if they were to email the entire database, they could well get a few floating supporters who might not have been able to make a Saturday 3pm game.

[CyderInACan]

18 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Nah, the old dear has an interest in paintings and all that high brow stuff.

You'd have thought by now he'd have trained her to put on a cowboy film before she went out for the evening.

I love a good cowboy story; anything to do with the UWE Stadium saga would be a must-see 

[Chivs]

I booked my holiday sometime before the fixtures.  Imagine my angst when it a) turned out we are playing at home on the one Saturday I am away, b) turns out to be Villa.

A short while after, the game is moved to Friday night because it is on Sky.  Result!

@AdamB who do I send the cheque to at the club for this excellent move?

[Tinmans Love Child]

2 hours ago, EnclosureSurge said:

Not if he's someone who doesn't digest football 24/7. There are people like that. People who have 'lives' and only think about football every so often. If he doesn't look at the official site and the club leave a yawning gap of 6 weeks between the change of a fixture and emailing about it, he's got a valid point. Why the club can't automatically inform people of quite important things like this, as soon as they're decided, I don't know. In this day and age...modern technology...modern football club etc He's got a valid point for me.

I have subscribed to a Bristol City Fixtures calendar on my IPhone which adds al the fixtures into your calendar and makes all the changes automatically, I would recommend everyone with an iPhone gets this cause then you don't need to rely on texts or emails at all.

At the end of the day people need to take ownership every now and again, (how long did you wee on the toilet seat before somebody told you to lift it up? ) Instead of blaming someone else.  The club could have done more communication, maybe, but it isn't there fault the fixture changed or that Dr Balls works shifts he can't change.  As a fan I keep up to date with everything City related, I don't have a season ticket but knew at the time Villa game  had changed, I would think a season ticket holder would be even more keen than me

 

[Lrrr]

5 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Why can't SKY discuss the fixtures with the football league before they are released? The Police are consulted on certain games beforehand, why not others? It's not that difficult to sort out in a matter of days of the fixtures being released, and constantly change them throughout the season.

Always expect the fixtures against big teams to be moved, nice surprise then when they're not. As for a bit later in the season sky will want to make sure they get the teams around the play offs on tv so can't name the games too early. Imagine them naming say Reading vs Cardiff (no idea when it is) at the start of the season and it turns out they're both mid table, not as much interest then. 

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, hodge said:

Always expect the fixtures against big teams to be moved, nice surprise then when they're not. As for a bit later in the season sky will want to make sure they get the teams around the play offs on tv so can't name the games too early. Imagine them naming say Reading vs Cardiff (no idea when it is) at the start of the season and it turns out they're both mid table, not as much interest then. 

Yes, all about their TV audience…

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Yes, all about their TV audience…

undoubteldy true, made worse because (unless I'm mistaken) Championship viewing figures are shockingly low.

[exAtyeoMax]

8 minutes ago, 29AR said:

undoubteldy true, made worse because (unless I'm mistaken) Championship viewing figures are shockingly low.

They should just let Leeds be on every week  then at least we would know that it would move only twice a year

[Dr Balls]

31 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

They should just let Leeds be on every week  then at least we would know that it would move only twice a year

I thought they did have Leeds on every week normally, just  last season they also had to have Newcastle on every week as well, and that was a bit of a scheduling headache for them...

[exAtyeoMax]

7 minutes ago, Dr Balls said:

I thought they did have Leeds on every week normally, just  last season they also had to have Newcastle on every week as well, and that was a bit of a scheduling headache for them...

perhaps they use the same balls as they did with the Carabou Cup draw…

[Lanterne Rouge]

Has anyone sussed that we only have three 3pm Saturday home games between now and the end of November? Millwall, Derby & Leeds.

We then have three in December, Boro, Forest & Wolves.

[EnclosureSurge]

6 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

 As a fan I keep up to date with everything City related, I don't have a season ticket but knew at the time Villa game  had changed, I would think a season ticket holder would be even more keen than me

I'm guessing it's not lost on anyone, the irony of us being on here debating why someone who doesn't spend all day on here, doesn't know the game was changed till (s)he got a tardy email from the club, a situation that could and should be very easily rectified with a little technological synching. maybe some of the peeps on here perhaps don't always sense the extent of other football fans' lives - even season ticket holders.

Walking past me before the home game following Gerry Gow's death were two 50-odd-year-olds who, on seeing a picture of him, said, "Oh, yeah, Gerry Gow died didn't he?" Now, to most City fans - and indeed these two old enough to have seen and idolised GG, surely (they didn't look like Jonny-come-latelys to me) - the fact that Gerry Gow's death hadn't really registered in the intervening two weeks (one week?) would be anathema to how they live their/our lives. It occurred to me then just how small the proportion of some people's lives is taken up by City. By its nature, nearly all of us on here are not in that group. But you can't even categorise otibbers - Dr Balls might not come on here very often, either, despite being signed up. 

You would, indeed, think a season ticket holder would be 'even more keen' than most, more keen than non-season ticket holders. But that just can't be 100% true. There must be City nuts who can't afford a season ticket and yet devour everything red&white that they can, up to the point of standing outside the Gate smelling the burgers on home games they aren't attending; conversely there must be season ticket holders, perhaps such as Dr Balls, who, despite being in possession of said season ticket, might not go to every game, might not talk about City every week (not even every day), might not ever go on twit/facebook/the site etc.

As for it being comparable to having a wee on the lid before someone says 'lift it up, will you', I'm not sure where to go with that. Except that, ok, maybe Dr Balls is unusual and could have looked into any fixture changes, but without knowing his/her life, I think it's pretty judgmental to call him/her out for it. For all we know, there may be reasons unknown to us - personal, work, health, social, financial - why Dr B hasn't got round to finding out. Who knows, maybe it's not no.1 priority, maybe something else is and s/he's been taken aback by this. I'm sure lessons will have been learnt all round. Who knows, maybe we'll all understand better the vast array of types of fans we have and give each other a break. After all, we're not bottom of the table.

Yet.

You Reds!

[Norn Iron]

9 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

You're absolutely right , the club should consult every supporter before changing games .

And the club should also provide a free smartphone  with just one app (bcfc) to anyone that doesn't do social media or look things up on a computer. Better still, a gert massive searchlight should be placed on top of the Lansdown Stand. When there's an important announcement, like a fixture change, they could shine a silhouetted Robin onto the cloud base. This would mean that those who haven't any tech should buy a Bristol Post to find out the important newsflash.

 

 

[CiderCraig]

9 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

Yes the Huddesfield game was changed and missed that one too as working...

In all fairness, dozens of people miss most games due to work commitments, so if you dip out on a couple, then they're the chances you take when purchasing a ST. 

I'd like to put my non-attendance down to a televised football match or two, but no, I miss them because I am working at that time.

As @Major Isewater alluded to, here's hoping BCFC, SKY & the Football League have the decency to confer with you next time. 

That said, they'll probably have to wait 2 weeks to speak to you, and then wait an extra 40 minutes as you're "running a little behind today" ... (we all have gripes mate!).

[Tinmans Love Child]

3 hours ago, EnclosureSurge said:

I'm guessing it's not lost on anyone, the irony of us being on here debating why someone who doesn't spend all day on here, doesn't know the game was changed till (s)he got a tardy email from the club, a situation that could and should be very easily rectified with a little technological synching. maybe some of the peeps on here perhaps don't always sense the extent of other football fans' lives - even season ticket holders.

Walking past me before the home game following Gerry Gow's death were two 50-odd-year-olds who, on seeing a picture of him, said, "Oh, yeah, Gerry Gow died didn't he?" Now, to most City fans - and indeed these two old enough to have seen and idolised GG, surely (they didn't look like Jonny-come-latelys to me) - the fact that Gerry Gow's death hadn't really registered in the intervening two weeks (one week?) would be anathema to how they live their/our lives. It occurred to me then just how small the proportion of some people's lives is taken up by City. By its nature, nearly all of us on here are not in that group. But you can't even categorise otibbers - Dr Balls might not come on here very often, either, despite being signed up. 

You would, indeed, think a season ticket holder would be 'even more keen' than most, more keen than non-season ticket holders. But that just can't be 100% true. There must be City nuts who can't afford a season ticket and yet devour everything red&white that they can, up to the point of standing outside the Gate smelling the burgers on home games they aren't attending; conversely there must be season ticket holders, perhaps such as Dr Balls, who, despite being in possession of said season ticket, might not go to every game, might not talk about City every week (not even every day), might not ever go on twit/facebook/the site etc.

As for it being comparable to having a wee on the lid before someone says 'lift it up, will you', I'm not sure where to go with that. Except that, ok, maybe Dr Balls is unusual and could have looked into any fixture changes, but without knowing his/her life, I think it's pretty judgmental to call him/her out for it. For all we know, there may be reasons unknown to us - personal, work, health, social, financial - why Dr B hasn't got round to finding out. Who knows, maybe it's not no.1 priority, maybe something else is and s/he's been taken aback by this. I'm sure lessons will have been learnt all round. Who knows, maybe we'll all understand better the vast array of types of fans we have and give each other a break. After all, we're not bottom of the table.

Yet.

You Reds!

Maybe, but it isn't the clubs fault and didn't warrant a rant about how poor they were