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Kelly in England U20 Squad

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chinapig

chinapig

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Remarkable achievement given he is not in the PL spotlight. Speaks very well of the academy, our coaches, the England set up for giving him a chance and most of all the young man himself. :clap:

JoeAman08

JoeAman08

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Outstanding news for the club and the academy but....

Well done to Lloyd Kelly this is your moment and your hard work is paying off young man. I'm really excited to see him pushing Joe Bryan over the season and hopefully makes them both better. 

pigeon

pigeon

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Would love to see this next game:

 

                         Fielding

Eros         Wright       Baker         Kelly

Eliason/Pato  Brownhill Pack   Bryan

                Reid            Diedhiou

Spoons

Spoons

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32 minutes ago, hoxton casual said:

He really is a prospect. Well done Lloyd and what a personal story. I feel it is churlish to mention it but Taylor Moore anyone?

Not needed to have a sly dig at Taylor Moore. He's captained his country at u20's HAVE YOU ?

B1ackbird

B1ackbird

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40 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Not needed to have a sly dig at Taylor Moore. He's captained his country at u20's HAVE YOU ?

Twice!!

you about mate?

B1ackbird

B1ackbird

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39 minutes ago, Spoons said:

I've captained the thatchers drinking team a few times!! 

 And a great captain you were to...

:chant6ez:

"We got Micky Bell, We got Micky Bell......"

 

ZiderEyed

ZiderEyed

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Amazing seeing homegrown, local youth in the England setup, I know I did **** all but I'm very proud, well done that man.

Spoons

Spoons

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4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Who was the last academy player who played for an adult England youth level (u19s+)? 

Lita doesn't count as strictly speaking he's not a true academy's product..

Matt Hewlett u21's !? 

Guest

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3 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Matt Hewlett u21's !? 

If he's half as good as him, he'll be shit. 

Spoons

Spoons

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3 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

Don't think he played did he? Went to the game against Italy down the gate. 

Think he was picked in squad but didn't play. If memory serves me right they used to pick a local player in squad to try and boost ticket sales ?

chinapig

chinapig

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26 minutes ago, Spoons said:

Think he was picked in squad but didn't play. If memory serves me right they used to pick a local player in squad to try and boost ticket sales ?

Yes, it was common practice, which rather devalued an England cap.

Lanterne Rouge

Lanterne Rouge

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The games are home to Holland on Thursday at Telford and then away in Switzerland on Monday. No idea of KO times but there`s a good chance BT Sport will have the games on - possibly with our very own Jonathon Pearce commentating!

hoxton casual

hoxton casual

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3 hours ago, Spoons said:

Not needed to have a sly dig at Taylor Moore. He's captained his country at u20's HAVE YOU ?

Not a dig at Taylor,  but comment on how i feel for him coming here with that status and then not progressing like he expected.

cidered abroad

cidered abroad

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Brilliant news for Lloyd and the coaching staff who have helped him through the years.

I'm excited about the quality that we are now seeing from our Academy boys. So good for the future of our club.

Guest Euan BCFC

Guest Euan BCFC

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If there's one positive from since LJ took over it's that our acedemy has improved massively

Guest j8mbob

Guest j8mbob

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11 hours ago, Euan BCFC said:

If there's one positive from since LJ took over it's that our acedemy has improved massively

Really?? Lloyd joined the academy at 11 thats seven years ago long before LJ took over.

Overhead this once said by a Southampton coach, the only difference between you and us is not the quality of the players but the opportunity available to them. What LJ has given the boys in the academy is a route to get to the first team that wasn't available before. 

Davefevs

Davefevs

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3 hours ago, j8mbob said:

Really?? Lloyd joined the academy at 11 thats seven years ago long before LJ took over.

Overhead this once said by a Southampton coach, the only difference between you and us is not the quality of the players but the opportunity available to them. What LJ has given the boys in the academy is a route to get to the first team that wasn't available before. 

Cotts took him to Portugal and played him v Brislington in the community match.  Looks like Kelly has always been ahead of the curve, and good to see both Cotts and LJ have seen this.  

Guest Euan BCFC

Guest Euan BCFC

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3 hours ago, j8mbob said:

Really?? Lloyd joined the academy at 11 thats seven years ago long before LJ took over.

Overhead this once said by a Southampton coach, the only difference between you and us is not the quality of the players but the opportunity available to them. What LJ has given the boys in the academy is a route to get to the first team that wasn't available before. 

A) I wasn't just talking about Lloyd

B) under other managers (bar maybe Cotts) youth weren't given that much of a chance

Phileas Fogg

Phileas Fogg

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6 minutes ago, Euan BCFC said:

A) I wasn't just talking about Lloyd

B) under other managers (bar maybe Cotts) youth weren't given that much of a chance

Cotterill didn't really give our youth players a chance at all. The young players he bought in were already established professionals, not our academy players.

He even opted to have a spare place on the bench rather than fill it with a youth player on occassion.

Had he shown more willingness to create a 'pathway' for youth players, he might've kept his job for a while longer.

Phileas Fogg

Phileas Fogg

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18 minutes ago, shelts said:

Always makes me smile that England rate him and he can't as of yet get into our side . Well done lad 

Doesn't necessarily make him ready for men's championship football. There's a big difference. 

I don't think it's a case of us not 'rating him' as highly as England, he's only 18 and has Bryan ahead of him who's improved this season and is clearly highly rated.

Looks like Joe Bryan is going to be hard pushed for his starting spot though which is great to see.

Exciting to see us with two young academy graduates competing for that spot. It's a bit of a specialist position and teams pay big money for young English left backs.

shelts

shelts

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1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Doesn't necessarily make him ready for men's championship football. There's a big difference. 

I don't think it's a case of us not 'rating him' as highly as England, he's only 18 and has Bryan ahead of him who's improved this season and is clearly highly rated.

Looks like Joe Bryan is going to be hard pushed for his starting spot though which is great to see.

Exciting to see us with two young academy graduates competing for that spot. It's a bit of a specialist position and teams pay big money for young English left backs.

LJ has z he is ready . I've watched him for the 23's and he is ready . Push Joe on , put Lloyd in . 

City fan 1982

City fan 1982

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2 hours ago, shelts said:

Always makes me smile that England rate him and he can't as of yet get into our side . Well done lad 

Funny club city, some players are young and can't get into any first team , Taylor Moore , Magnússon, Kelly , deemed good enough for their national teams, but not us , we go on about the academy etc , however vyner, etc come In for a game or two then vanish.  Kelly is flavour of the month , how long before he's shipped out to Rochdale ? Other clubs play champ or prem  blood youngsters into their teams 

 

Major Isewater

Major Isewater

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18 minutes ago, kivsy said:

Funny club city, some players are young and can't get into any first team , Taylor Moore , Magnússon, Kelly , deemed good enough for their national teams, but not us , we go on about the academy etc , however vyner, etc come In for a game or two then vanish.  Kelly is flavour of the month , how long before he's shipped out to Rochdale ? Other clubs play champ or prem  blood youngsters into their teams 

 

I think it's the history of the club , we've nearly always been either pushing for promotion from the third division or battling relegation from the Second .

We rarely have a quiet moment whereby we could introduce academy players into a less pressurised situation without the worry that they would crack or through inexperience lose us games.

The solution the club always looked for was proven , ahem , quality to help the cause .

The youngsters weren't trusted enough or maybe weren't good enough . 

We have upped the quality now and finally it looks like paying off.

An interesting time to be a City supporter.

Guest j8mbob

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On 27/08/2017 at 14:10, Davefevs said:

 

 

 

eastonboy

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Tried searching via England lions twitter feed and untold internet searches- does anyone know if he made the team tonight??

HomerRed

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18 minutes ago, eastonboy said:

Tried searching via England lions twitter feed and untold internet searches- does anyone know if he made the team tonight??

I tried Telford FC'S Twitter which led me to an audio only commentary on live sports fm but it lost signal after a minute or so. England were 3-0 up with 20mins to go but did not catch any team details. Hope he got some minutes at least. 

CheddarReds

CheddarReds

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On ‎26‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 14:31, eastonboy said:

Would be interesting to know who he has replaced in the U20's - the u20's that were highly successful during the summer

Many of the successful u20s have moved up to the u21s but he's still playing with players like Jay DaSilva, Dujon Sterling and Jacob Maddox (also in our academy until 14 when Chelsea had him) and more who were  u19s in the summer when they won the euro's, so still impressive.

But to answer your question he replaced Reece Oxford (West Ham, on loan at Borussia Monchengladbach) who withdrew from the squad because of injury.

Son of Fred

Son of Fred

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On 27/08/2017 at 11:35, Phileas Fogg said:

Cotterill didn't really give our youth players a chance at all. The young players he bought in were already established professionals, not our academy players.

He even opted to have a spare place on the bench rather than fill it with a youth player on occassion.

Had he shown more willingness to create a 'pathway' for youth players, he might've kept his job for a while longer.

That for me was where Cotts lost it-just unforgivable to deny a young player the experience of being in a first team match day squad.dont imagine to know what he was thinking.

Hope he's learnt from it.

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