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I see Taunton Town and Bristol Manor Farm are already pulling away, each with 16 from 18 points - BMF top on goal difference.

Looks like an interesting tussle ahead.

I admit I don't go to the games but I do follow Taunton's results out of interest. I know some of you have mentioned watching BMF.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Leveller said:

I see Taunton Town and Bristol Manor Farm are already pulling away, each with 16 from 18 points - BMF top on goal difference.

Looks like an interesting tussle ahead.

I admit I don't go to the games but I do follow Taunton's results out of interest. I know some of you have mentioned watching BMF.

BFM hammered Mangoes on Saturday which puts the gas even further down the scale than I thought :)

Posted
7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

BFM hammered Mangoes on Saturday which puts the gas even further down the scale than I thought :)

In terms of the football pyramid, how many seasons would it take for Bristol Manor Farm to actually overtake them?

Posted
7 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

In terms of the football pyramid, how many seasons would it take for Bristol Manor Farm to actually overtake them?

Depends on the rise of one and the Fall of the other I guess:)

Posted

I watched quite a lot of games in that league last year ( Bridgwater Town).  It was difficult for me to judge how good teams were though, as BW Town were such a poor side and got beaten easily most weeks. 

I found that some teams try and get it down and play, whilst others seemed to still look to play long with a big man ( or two! ) up front. Hereford were far and away the best footballing side, but seem to be finding it tougher in the league above this year. 

BMF have had a great start as you say and I must admit to being surprised how well they are doing,   i imagine Taunton and Salisbury will be the main threat to them if they can keep going how they are.

Tiverton went up last year and are now top of the league above, just goes to show what clubs can do when they are on a roll.

Posted
12 minutes ago, reddogkev said:

In terms of the football pyramid, how many seasons would it take for Bristol Manor Farm to actually overtake them?

They are already above them, Mangotsfield are 20th in the same division!.

Sorry, do you mean the Gas? If so, BMF are 5 divisions below!.

Posted

Go to BMF regularly, good afternoon out with some great people

They're performing very well at the top of the league, play along the ground and they have some top quality players all financed by geoff sellek who has done an awful lot for the club. 

Only 4 quid with a city st as well so no reason not to come when city are away! 

 

Posted
43 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

BFM hammered Mangoes on Saturday which puts the gas even further down the scale than I thought :)

Mangos team awful. Genuinely. Awfully ran team recently. A shame. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Portland Bill said:

I watched quite a lot of games in that league last year ( Bridgwater Town).  It was difficult for me to judge how good teams were though, as BW Town were such a poor side and got beaten easily most weeks. 

I found that some teams try and get it down and play, whilst others seemed to still look to play long with a big man ( or two! ) up front. Hereford were far and away the best footballing side, but seem to be finding it tougher in the league above this year. 

BMF have had a great start as you say and I must admit to being surprised how well they are doing,   i imagine Taunton and Salisbury will be the main threat to them if they can keep going how they are.

Tiverton went up last year and are now top of the league above, just goes to show what clubs can do when they are on a roll.

BT money issues. Couldn't find anyone to replace manager properly. Nice little club down there though 

Posted
On 18/09/2017 at 17:42, JBFC II said:

Only 4 quid with a city st as well so no reason not to come when city are away! 

 

Apart from watching City away..?! 

Posted
15 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

Apart from watching City away..?! 

More branching out to those who can't make every away trip, much cheaper football and still at a decent standard

Posted
On 9/19/2017 at 00:33, JamesBCFC said:

Theoretically BMF could be a division above Rovers in 2020-21

I knew BMF were after back to back promotions, but surpised at quite how strong a start they have had.

Around 2003-4 City were playing Rushden and Diamonds in a league match, now BMF are at the same level as R&D (albeit South West rather than South East).

 

If BMF go up this season they are in the division below Conference South?

Here is a thought. If another Bristol team should become a league side in our life time and go on to be consistently above the Gas do they become the new team to loathe by all the hater types? 

Posted
52 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

If BMF go up this season they are in the division below Conference South?

Here is a thought. If another Bristol team should become a league side in our life time and go on to be consistently above the Gas do they become the new team to loathe by all the hater types? 

I would imagine it to be a bit like how we look a Yeovil rather than the gas.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I would imagine it to be a bit like how we look a Yeovil rather than the gas.

Or FGR. If Manor Farm were to achieve success like they have I think most City fans would support them in it and wish them well. 

There`s just too much history with NLBR to stop people wanting them to fail spectacularly no matter what league they were in. They`ll never stop being the gift to me.

Posted
On 18/09/2017 at 17:27, Portland Bill said:

 

Sorry, do you mean the Gas? If so, BMF are 5 divisions below!.

Tick tock gas; BMF are coming for you!

Posted
8 minutes ago, Flint says No said:

Are they one league off the NLS?

They’re in Southern League South & West - there is Southern Premier League above before NLS. Level 8 in pyramid 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Tomarse said:

They’re in Southern League South & West - there is Southern Premier League above before NLS. Level 8 in pyramid 

Oh yeah because Hereford won that league last year didn’t they

Posted
1 hour ago, Flint says No said:

Oh yeah because Hereford won that league last year didn’t they

And are currently fourth in the next level up.

Posted

Taunton beat Steve Claridge’s Salisbury 4-1 yesterday. That puts them 10 points clear at the top. If Salisbury had won, they could have gone second. By losing, they drop to seventh (nearly all the teams in the playoffs are on 33 points).

Posted
6 hours ago, Leveller said:

Taunton beat Steve Claridge’s Salisbury 4-1 yesterday. That puts them 10 points clear at the top. If Salisbury had won, they could have gone second. By losing, they drop to seventh (nearly all the teams in the playoffs are on 33 points).

League is awful this year compared to last!

Posted
20 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Manor Farm lost 2-3 to Totton yesterday.

Totton are a really well organised side and will definitely be around the playoffs at the end of the season.

They were very rattled when Farm reduced their lead from 3 goals down to 1, and at that point Farm were most likely to score but Totton deserved the win overall.

Is there a play-offs this season?

Edit: probably sounds stupid without context! I know only 1 team is going down instead of 4 to create a new league; wondered if more were promoted automatically to even it out too.

Posted
49 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Theres usually a playoffs, I know it's definitely 2 autos this season, pretty sure playoff spots too.

Was told by Manor Farms management they were going for promotion this season because of the extra auto spot.

Ah I see. My understanding is this level next year will be pretty shit... Level above will take most good players, level below will be really bad...

Be nice if BMF can go up

Posted
1 hour ago, JamesBCFC said:

Theres usually a playoffs, I know it's definitely 2 autos this season, pretty sure playoff spots too.

Was told by Manor Farms management they were going for promotion this season because of the extra auto spot.

The league table shows two automatics, four playoffs and one relegation place, so three up one down.

Posted

So to decipher all of this and in answer to my question...

If BMF go up they will be in the same league as Hereford unless they go up again which will take them into the Conference South? And then BMF will then be two divisions above Clevedon who are in the Evo Stiks with the Mangos. ?

Posted
10 minutes ago, havanatopia said:

So to decipher all of this and in answer to my question...

If BMF go up they will be in the same league as Hereford unless they go up again which will take them into the Conference South? And then BMF will then be two divisions above Clevedon who are in the Evo Stiks with the Mangos. ?

 

7 minutes ago, shelts said:

Clevedon in the tools stations ?

Yeah, Clevedon are Toolstation West.

If BMF get promoted they go in to the Evo-Stik Southern League, with Hereford as you say @havanatopia, and if they go up again they'll be in the Conference South. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, oldrosie said:

The ignorance of non league football shown here is unbelievable.  Clevedon in the Evo Stiks, for example.  And if Manor Farm are only five promotions below the Gas, then they are only six promotions below BCFC.  Seriously, non league football at a certain level .... maybe Conference South .... is akin to Div 4 when I was a kid.  I wouldn't swop a ticket for the Man U game for a top local non league match.  Welton v Radstock?  Melksham v Bradford? Both games ... and many more .... win hands down.  And no exploitation :laugh:.

I know you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder about modern football but you don't need to be a dick.

Most of the time I agree with you too, but Bristol City fans support Bristol City, and don't really care about the rest of the footballing world beneath them below League 2 and the Conference. Why would they need to? 

Posted

Is there a whole new level being introduced like the last big reshuffle (conf. North and South) therefore relegating everyone below the new level. Or just extra divisions coming in at equivalent levels?

Posted
3 hours ago, ZiderEyed said:

I know you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder about modern football but you don't need to be a dick.

Most of the time I agree with you too, but Bristol City fans support Bristol City, and don't really care about the rest of the footballing world beneath them below League 2 and the Conference. Why would they need to? 

'Bristol City fans only support Bristol City and don't really care about the rest of the footballing world' really? Even in the narrow minded confines of this forum there's plenty of general footballing discussion. 

Why are you even reading/posting in a thread about non-league football if you believe what you posted above?

Posted
4 hours ago, oldrosie said:

The ignorance of non league football shown here is unbelievable.  Clevedon in the Evo Stiks, for example.  And if Manor Farm are only five promotions below the Gas, then they are only six promotions below BCFC.  Seriously, non league football at a certain level .... maybe Conference South .... is akin to Div 4 when I was a kid.  I wouldn't swop a ticket for the Man U game for a top local non league match.  Welton v Radstock?  Melksham v Bradford? Both games ... and many more .... win hands down.  And no exploitation :laugh:.

I’m following Tauntons progress with interest. However, when I’ve actually seen games ( admittedly only a couple, last season, ) the standard was appalling. A bit like a school match, with no passing moves to speak of, but a lot of uncontrolled rush and thump. That may be untypical, but it didn’t encourage me to go back this season yet.

Posted
20 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

Totton played some lovely stuff against BMF, but Oldrosie generally looks for any excuse to slate City/league football, so I'd take anything they say with an oceans worth of salt.

Cribbs impressed me recently, and BMF play a really entertaining style of football. Would recommend it to anyone at a loose end on the international break.

Posted
8 hours ago, oldrosie said:

The ignorance of non league football shown here is unbelievable.  Clevedon in the Evo Stiks, for example.  And if Manor Farm are only five promotions below the Gas, then they are only six promotions below BCFC.  Seriously, non league football at a certain level .... maybe Conference South .... is akin to Div 4 when I was a kid.  I wouldn't swop a ticket for the Man U game for a top local non league match.  Welton v Radstock?  Melksham v Bradford? Both games ... and many more .... win hands down.  And no exploitation :laugh:.

 

8 hours ago, ZiderEyed said:

I know you've got a bit of a chip on your shoulder about modern football but you don't need to be a dick.

Most of the time I agree with you too, but Bristol City fans support Bristol City, and don't really care about the rest of the footballing world beneath them below League 2 and the Conference. Why would they need to? 

Took the words right of.. and I would add to the sloppy first sentence of oldrosie.. whenever I want to look at the lower leagues i want to be able to find the tables in a couple of clicks and fully understand the pyramid and not have to trawl through several sites and pages. Even many of the non league clubs do not show their league table for example. Its useless.

In short, if the information is there, readily available and, most importantly, easily found and comparable to the table above and below then the entire nation would be far more knowledgeable as well as interested in non league. It isn't, so they are aren't. 

Posted

And Manor Farm still in the play off hunt, outstanding 4-1 win yesterday, blew 6th place Wimborne away in the first half to move into 3rd, cracking season for them

Posted

Sadly my beloved Shortwood United who currently lye fourth bottom of this league have had to take the brave decision to resign from the league at the end of the season.  118 yrs of history must be protected and the fa have been contacted for guidance as to what league they will be playing in next year.

All of this just 5 yrs after playing Port Vale live on BT in the face cup.

Posted
23 minutes ago, Between heaven and hell said:

Sadly my beloved Shortwood United who currently lye fourth bottom of this league have had to take the brave decision to resign from the league at the end of the season.  118 yrs of history must be protected and the fa have been contacted for guidance as to what league they will be playing in next year.

All of this just 5 yrs after playing Port Vale live on BT in the face cup.

Is that a financial reason?

Posted

With seven games to go, Taunton are ALREADY promoted. P35 W25 D9 L1. Well done Town. In the table below, those teams with an asterisk against their name  may be affected by the changes to promotion rules this season

League Table

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
P Taunton Town 35 25 9 1 85 37 +48 84
2 Salisbury 34 21 7 6 93 41 +52 70
3 Bristol Manor Farm * 35 18 8 9 73 50 +23 62
4 Swindon Supermarine * 36 18 8 10 71 49 +22 62
5 Evesham United * 36 18 7 11 61 51 +10 61
6 Wimborne Town * 35 18 6 11 82 51 +31 60
7 Didcot Town * 36 17 9 10 75 59 +16 60
Posted
5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Is that a financial reason?

Yes mate.

Made a decision last summer to stop paying silly money at players who really dont care to much about the club and try and keep it to local younger  players which is why they are struggling a bit.

Now the major sponsor of the club who has been brilliant for many years is stepping down at the end of the season so it was time to act for the future of the club.

Posted
1 minute ago, Between heaven and hell said:

Yes mate.

Made a decision last summer to stop paying silly money at players who really dont care to much about the club and try and keep it to local younger  players which is why they are struggling a bit.

Now the major sponsor of the club who has been brilliant for many years is stepping down at the end of the season so it was time to act for the future of the club.

Ta, not surprised.  I really struggle to understand how some of these teams survive, it’s boom firva couple of seasons, then bust.  Shame.  Was the FA Cup "glory" worth it?  Or has it destroyed a bit if what made Shortwood what it was?

Posted
10 minutes ago, Between heaven and hell said:

Yes mate.

Made a decision last summer to stop paying silly money at players who really dont care to much about the club and try and keep it to local younger  players which is why they are struggling a bit.

Now the major sponsor of the club who has been brilliant for many years is stepping down at the end of the season so it was time to act for the future of the club.

Have they been affected by the relative success of FGR nearby?

 

Posted

Step 4 Promotion - 2017/2018

19 teams will be promoted from Step 4 this season. The relevant section from the FA regulations is below:

Nineteen Clubs will be promoted from Step 4 comprising of the twelve Clubs finishing in 1st and 2nd position in each division, together with the highest ranked 3rd place Club on the basis of points per game during the Playing Season plus six further Clubs determined by a series of Play Off Matches.

Below you can therefore see the 24 Step 4 teams who are in the play-off places, ranked by "points per game"

As things stand, Scarborough Athletic will be promoted automatically, with Tadcaster Albion taking part in the play-offs instead

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
1 Scarborough Athletic 34 67.6% 11.8% 20.6% 2.41 1.09 +1.32 2.15
2 Beaconsfield Town 34 64.7% 14.7% 20.6% 2.06 1.18 +0.88 2.09
3 Greenwich Borough 40 60.0% 25.0% 15.0% 2.27 0.93 +1.35 2.05
4 Corinthian-Casuals 40 62.5% 15.0% 22.5% 1.90 0.95 +0.95 2.02
5 Hartley Wintney 35 62.9% 11.4% 25.7% 2.37 1.26 +1.11 2.00
6 Cray Wanderers 41 56.1% 29.3% 14.6% 2.34 0.95 +1.39 1.98
7 AFC Dunstable 35 57.1% 22.9% 20.0% 1.97 0.83 +1.14 1.94
8 Cambridge City 33 60.6% 12.1% 27.3% 2.58 1.33 +1.24 1.94
9 Walton Casuals 40 55.0% 25.0% 20.0% 2.15 1.15 +1.00 1.90
10 Potters Bar Town 40 60.0% 17.5% 22.5% 1.85 1.02 +0.83 1.90
11 Bamber Bridge 35 51.4% 34.3% 14.3% 2.03 1.17 +0.86 1.89
12 Prescot Cables 35 57.1% 14.3% 28.6% 2.03 1.29 +0.74 1.86
13 Bedworth United 36 55.6% 16.7% 27.8% 1.75 1.33 +0.42 1.83
14 Frickley Athletic 34 58.8% 14.7% 26.5% 2.65 1.59 +1.06 1.82
15 Canvey Island 39 53.8% 17.9% 28.2% 2.31 1.33 +0.97 1.79
16 Bristol Manor Farm 35 51.4% 22.9% 25.7% 2.09 1.43 +0.66 1.77
17 Haringey Borough 39 51.3% 20.5% 28.2% 1.79 1.15 +0.64 1.74
18 Heybridge Swifts 36 50.0% 22.2% 27.8% 2.33 1.31 +1.03 1.72
19 Stamford 36 47.2% 30.6% 22.2% 1.56 0.81 +0.75 1.72
20 Swindon Supermarine 36 50.0% 22.2% 27.8% 1.97 1.36 +0.61 1.72
21 Wimborne Town 35 51.4% 17.1% 31.4% 2.34 1.46 +0.89 1.71
22 Evesham United 36 50.0% 19.4% 30.6% 1.69 1.42 +0.28 1.69
23 Trafford 37 40.5% 35.1% 24.3% 1.46 1.27 +0.19 1.57
24 Leek Town 37 43.2% 21.6% 35.1% 1.89 1.30 +0.59 1.51

 

BMF are in 16th spot, so looking good. I see Heybridge Swifts are in 18th spot. Anyone on here go when City played them in the FA Cup some years back?

Posted

Manor Farm are away to Paulton Rovers today. I live in the village, local ref has inspected the pitch and deemed it "unplayable". Match referee has not accepted decision and is travelling to make his own. It is still raining, really can't see game going ahead. Perhaps match referee wants his fee, as I believe if he attends Paulton will still have to pay him even if he calls game off.

Posted
1 hour ago, Leveller said:

Have they been affected by the relative success of FGR nearby?

 

A little but the they never have been a well supported club , held together by a few families really. Another issue is the pricing at that level , I personally find £9 scandelous 

Posted
1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

Ta, not surprised.  I really struggle to understand how some of these teams survive, it’s boom firva couple of seasons, then bust.  Shame.  Was the FA Cup "glory" worth it?  Or has it destroyed a bit if what made Shortwood what it was?

No we will always have those cup memories, especially beating Aldershot away in the previous round was incredible. The club will rebuild and go again with a dedicated group of helpers behind the scenes but probably never to this level.

Posted

So finally, Taunton achieved a Wolves like Championship with 103 points from 42 games and only one defeat.

Bristol Manor Farm slipped to ninth in a Bristol City like decline.

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Posted

Manor Farm have been fantastic to watch this season. New to Bristol and very impressed by their level of football.

Edit: Also, they still have a standard, overweight lazy number 9 who scores bangers. Always fun.

Posted
8 minutes ago, LostScotsman said:

Manor Farm have been fantastic to watch this season. New to Bristol and very impressed by their level of football.

Edit: Also, they still have a standard, overweight lazy number 9 who scores bangers. Always fun.

I thought I was in tip top shape....... :ph34r:

Guest LostScotsman
Posted
1 hour ago, You Do The Dziekanowski said:

I thought I was in tip top shape....... :ph34r:

Maybe misremembering? I'm picturing the stereotype sockier than your local Sainsburys, Kris Boyd esque in finishing who bullies Centre Half's. 

Posted
2 hours ago, LostScotsman said:

Manor Farm have been fantastic to watch this season. New to Bristol and very impressed by their level of football.

Edit: Also, they still have a standard, overweight lazy number 9 who scores bangers. Always fun.

Dean stamp, great guy and a good footballer who probably would have made it to a bigger stage with good fitness and desire. 

The future is bright for manor farm, wouldn't be surprised to see them in the top 6 next season and pushing for promotion 

Posted
4 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Dean stamp, great guy and a good footballer who probably would have made it to a bigger stage with good fitness and desire. 

The future is bright for manor farm, wouldn't be surprised to see them in the top 6 next season and pushing for promotion 

Also technically a left back no?

Posted
On 02/04/2018 at 12:31, 22A said:

Step 4 Promotion - 2017/2018

19 teams will be promoted from Step 4 this season. The relevant section from the FA regulations is below:

Nineteen Clubs will be promoted from Step 4 comprising of the twelve Clubs finishing in 1st and 2nd position in each division, together with the highest ranked 3rd place Club on the basis of points per game during the Playing Season plus six further Clubs determined by a series of Play Off Matches.

Below you can therefore see the 24 Step 4 teams who are in the play-off places, ranked by "points per game"

As things stand, Scarborough Athletic will be promoted automatically, with Tadcaster Albion taking part in the play-offs instead

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
1 Scarborough Athletic 34 67.6% 11.8% 20.6% 2.41 1.09 +1.32 2.15
2 Beaconsfield Town 34 64.7% 14.7% 20.6% 2.06 1.18 +0.88 2.09
3 Greenwich Borough 40 60.0% 25.0% 15.0% 2.27 0.93 +1.35 2.05
4 Corinthian-Casuals 40 62.5% 15.0% 22.5% 1.90 0.95 +0.95 2.02
5 Hartley Wintney 35 62.9% 11.4% 25.7% 2.37 1.26 +1.11 2.00
6 Cray Wanderers 41 56.1% 29.3% 14.6% 2.34 0.95 +1.39 1.98
7 AFC Dunstable 35 57.1% 22.9% 20.0% 1.97 0.83 +1.14 1.94
8 Cambridge City 33 60.6% 12.1% 27.3% 2.58 1.33 +1.24 1.94
9 Walton Casuals 40 55.0% 25.0% 20.0% 2.15 1.15 +1.00 1.90
10 Potters Bar Town 40 60.0% 17.5% 22.5% 1.85 1.02 +0.83 1.90
11 Bamber Bridge 35 51.4% 34.3% 14.3% 2.03 1.17 +0.86 1.89
12 Prescot Cables 35 57.1% 14.3% 28.6% 2.03 1.29 +0.74 1.86
13 Bedworth United 36 55.6% 16.7% 27.8% 1.75 1.33 +0.42 1.83
14 Frickley Athletic 34 58.8% 14.7% 26.5% 2.65 1.59 +1.06 1.82
15 Canvey Island 39 53.8% 17.9% 28.2% 2.31 1.33 +0.97 1.79
16 Bristol Manor Farm 35 51.4% 22.9% 25.7% 2.09 1.43 +0.66 1.77
17 Haringey Borough 39 51.3% 20.5% 28.2% 1.79 1.15 +0.64 1.74
18 Heybridge Swifts 36 50.0% 22.2% 27.8% 2.33 1.31 +1.03 1.72
19 Stamford 36 47.2% 30.6% 22.2% 1.56 0.81 +0.75 1.72
20 Swindon Supermarine 36 50.0% 22.2% 27.8% 1.97 1.36 +0.61 1.72
21 Wimborne Town 35 51.4% 17.1% 31.4% 2.34 1.46 +0.89 1.71
22 Evesham United 36 50.0% 19.4% 30.6% 1.69 1.42 +0.28 1.69
23 Trafford 37 40.5% 35.1% 24.3% 1.46 1.27 +0.19 1.57
24 Leek Town 37 43.2% 21.6% 35.1% 1.89 1.30 +0.59 1.51

 

BMF are in 16th spot, so looking good. I see Heybridge Swifts are in 18th spot. Anyone on here go when City played them in the FA Cup some years back?

A certain Ben foster on the bench for city that day i believe!

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