last night's crowd/lack of crowd

[Littlesh*t]

I will start by saying those who attended last night i thought we created a very good atmosphere.

now to my main point, I couldn't believe how poor the attendance was last night. people always moan about the price of football but last night was more than reasonable against any team let alone premiership opposition. 

people always bang on about us being a sleeping giant and how we take 40,000 to wemberly but we can't get over 20,000 for a premier league side at only £12 a ticket. 

I know some struggle with evening games because of work and other commitments but there are also a lot who must have just decided they couldn't be bothered. I get people can't go every week because of money and other things but surely if our fan base and catchment area is as big as a lot of people make out then we should have had a much higher attendance than last night. 

 

 

[BRISTOL86]

It's a poorly supported competition in general at this stage to be fair, when everyone knows both sides will make as many as 11 changes from their normal team  

Stoke may be a premier league side but they're not an exciting draw. 

Last 16 is a pretty big stage to get to so think we'd see a bigger crowd next time. 

[Kid in the Riot]

The crowd last night of 13,826 was very good.

There was 6,600 at Palace v Huddersfield, an all-Premier League tie.

11,000 at Villa v Boro

11,800 at Burnley v Leeds

8,700 at Reading v Swansea etc etc

 

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, BRISTOL86 said:

It's a poorly supported competition in general at this stage to be fair, when everyone knows both sides will make as many as 11 changes from their normal team  

Stoke may be a premier league side but they're not an exciting draw. 

Last 16 is a pretty big stage to get to so think we'd see a bigger crowd next time. 

I get that but I think it's quite sad that a club like ours can't manage a half decent crowd. from the fan base we so called have 3 out of every 4 fans didn't show up. like I said I know people have other commitments but I don't believe they all did last night. 

[anonym0u5]

The atmosphere was great last night! 13k or not!

besides Taylor - I thought Flint was MOTM

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, Kid in the Riot said:

The crowd last night of 13,826 was very good.

There was 6,600 at Palace v Huddersfield, an all-Premier League tie.

11,000 at Villa v Boro

11,800 at Burnley v Leeds

8,700 at Reading v Swansea etc etc

 

that's fine but do you not think it's sad that fans think one of the biggest cups isn't important? 

also what were the prices at these other games?

I think last night was a perfect opportunity to show Lansdown that if he gets the pricing correct we will pack the gate. I'm a big supporter of the 20 is plenty campaign

[Kodjias Wrist]

4 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I get that but I think it's quite sad that a club like ours can't manage a half decent crowd. from the fan base we so called have 3 out of every 4 fans didn't show up. like I said I know people have other commitments but I don't believe they all did last night. 

It's better than most mate compare with the other clubs.

[NOTBLUE]

We were playing Stoke, Not Man Utd,Man city,Chelsea,Arsenal,Spurs,etc,Stoke are not a big draw.

[cidered abroad]

5 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said:

It's a poorly supported competition in general at this stage to be fair, when everyone knows both sides will make as many as 11 changes from their normal team  

Stoke may be a premier league side but they're not an exciting draw. 

Last 16 is a pretty big stage to get to so think we'd see a bigger crowd next time. 

Only three or four in last night's side started our last league game. But frankly, I believe we could play that team at Norwich and they would do well.

We appear to have a squad of 24/25 players who are good enough to start every game and LJ has a serious problem in choosing a starting eleven and also keeping them all happy and raring to go.

Sounds like this pessimistic old sod is becoming a happy clapper but that was a good performance and entertainment. COYREDS.

[Kodjias Wrist]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

that's fine but do you not think it's sad that fans think one of the biggest cups isn't important? 

also what were the prices at these other games?

I think last night was a perfect opportunity to show Lansdown that if he gets the pricing correct we will pack the gate. I'm a big supporter of the 20 is plenty campaign

Its the second biggest out of the two that include senior prem teams. If it was a top five six team it would have been over 20k easy if not sell out at those prices.

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, NOTBLUE said:

We were playing Stoke, Not Man Utd,Man city,Chelsea,Arsenal,Spurs,etc,Stoke are not a big draw.

but surely we all support city so the main attraction is watching our team, lining up against a better quality team is just a bonus

[BRISTOL86]

4 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I get that but I think it's quite sad that a club like ours can't manage a half decent crowd. from the fan base we so called have 3 out of every 4 fans didn't show up. like I said I know people have other commitments but I don't believe they all did last night. 

Only Leicester, West Ham and Spurs had more than us last night. 

We had more than several Premier League sides. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Thought the crowd was not too bad.

Know a few people who went owing to the lowered prices though. Would be interesting to know what % last night were non regulars.

[BRISTOL86]

5 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

that's fine but do you not think it's sad that fans think one of the biggest cups isn't important? 

also what were the prices at these other games?

I think last night was a perfect opportunity to show Lansdown that if he gets the pricing correct we will pack the gate. I'm a big supporter of the 20 is plenty campaign

Sadly the money in football has completely devalued this cup - it's seen as the JPT of the serious competitions. 

This is a cup whose draw takes place in China when the whole of England is sleeping....enough said. 

[MichaelRobartes]

3 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Only three or four in last night's side started our last league game. But frankly, I believe we could play that team at Norwich and they would do well.

We appear to have a squad of 24/25 players who are good enough to start every game and LJ has a serious problem in choosing a starting eleven and also keeping them all happy and raring to go.

Sounds like this pessimistic old sod is becoming a happy clapper but that was a good performance and entertainment. COYREDS.

Just two: Flint and Pack.

I thought the crowd was good, I was expecting 10,000 at best.

[Monkeh]

17 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I will start by saying those who attended last night i thought we created a very good atmosphere.

now to my main point, I couldn't believe how poor the attendance was last night. people always moan about the price of football but last night was more than reasonable against any team let alone premiership opposition. 

people always bang on about us being a sleeping giant and how we take 40,000 to wemberly but we can't get over 20,000 for a premier league side at only £12 a ticket. 

I know some struggle with evening games because of work and other commitments but there are also a lot who must have just decided they couldn't be bothered. I get people can't go every week because of money and other things but surely if our fan base and catchment area is as big as a lot of people make out then we should have had a much higher attendance than last night. 

 

 

since when has 13,5k been a poor crowd? it wasn't that long ago that we were happy to get that in a league game

[View from the Dolman]

4 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

also what were the prices at these other games?

Villa v Boro: £15 (adults), £10 (concessions), £10 (U21s) and £5 (U16s).

Burnley v Leeds: £15 (adults), £10 (concessions), £10 (U21s) and £5 (U17s).

Reading v Swansea: £10/12/15 (adults), £5/7/10 (concessions/U24), £3/5/7 (U17s).

[Mr Popodopolous]

Some of our crowds in recent times have been better than expected for Cup.

10k v Fleetwood in Jan, on a cold day, just post Christmas- the spending etc and in the midst of an awful run was quite decent also.

[Webzcas]

First game I have been able to attend this season. I thought considering only the third round of the League Cup, the attendance was respectable. It may have been a Prem Team but let's face it, it was Stoke.

We were superb last night as was the crowd.

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, Monkeh said:

since when has 13,5k been a poor crowd? it wasn't that long ago that we were happy to get that in a league game

over the years it wouldn't have been but my personal view is city have moved forward from those figures and my main point is the pricing/attendance. as I stated before I think it was a big opportunity to show Lansdown that we would pack the gate every week if the pricing was lower. 

[reformed_red]

Let's be honest this competition has become a bit of a joke up until perhaps the QF when teams start to take it s bit more seriously.

The draw fiasco will only serve to further alienate fans from the competition also.

Early in the season sides want to get points on the board not necessarily extra rounds in the cup - so for many fans who have to travel a fair way to the game (like myself), the added midweek expense to see a half committed team selection isn't exactly appealing. 

I guess the only appeal is the possibility of European football. Maybe this was LJ's 5 year plan....????

[Monkeh]

2 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

over the years it wouldn't have been but my personal view is city have moved forward from those figures and my main point is the pricing/attendance. as I stated before I think it was a big opportunity to show Lansdown that we would pack the gate every week if the pricing was lower. 

it was stoke and it was the third round of the micky mouse cup, it could of been a 5er a ticket we still wouldn't of got much more,

You are sound like a gas head mate they are obsessed with crowd sizes and attendances,

considering we had the 3rd highest attendance of the night says enough

[Unan]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

over the years it wouldn't have been but my personal view is city have moved forward from those figures and my main point is the pricing/attendance. as I stated before I think it was a big opportunity to show Lansdown that we would pack the gate every week if the pricing was lower. 

We had the highest % (vs league games) of fans attending in comparison to everyone else that played? We played Stoke, a game that definitely isn't a glamor time but also a team that most people thought would still be good enough to knock us out. A game where people weren't interested in the team we were playing, in a cup nobody cares about & we were expected to lose, but still had the smallest % drop of fans? Think that's alright

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

15 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

but surely we all support city so the main attraction is watching our team, lining up against a better quality team is just a bonus

Look at the figures in KITR's post and then ask the same question to fans of Palace, Villa, Burnley and Boro....all 'bigger' clubs than us.

We weren't playing Man Utd or Chelsea last night. The attendance was pretty good especially compared to others.

 

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, Monkeh said:

it was stoke and it was the third round of the micky mouse cup, it could of been a 5er a ticket we still wouldn't of got much more,

You are sound like a gas head mate they are obsessed with crowd sizes and attendances,

considering we had the 3rd highest attendance of the night says enough

so because you don't agree with my point you call me a gashead? what an absolute bell you are.

it's only a Mickey mouse cup if people treat it like that! this cup gives the winners a European place but I suppose you think the uefa cup is only the Mickey mouse version of the champions league.

[Monkeh]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

so because you don't agree with my point you call me a gashead? what an absolute bell you are.

it's only a Mickey mouse cup if people treat it like that! this cup gives the winners a European place but I suppose you think the uefa cup is only the Mickey mouse version of the champions league.

I never called you a gashed I said you sounded like one, because they obsess over attendances you called our support bad when it wasn't and has been pointed out to you by everyone else

[Littlesh*t]

1 minute ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Look at the figures in KITR's post and then ask the same question to fans of Palace, Villa, Burnley and Boro....all 'bigger' clubs than us.

We weren't playing Man Utd or Chelsea last night. The attendance was pretty good especially compared to others.

 

I think attendances were poor across all the club's in the competition but I couldn't give 2 shits about any other side and this I a BRISTOL CITY FORUM. 

my personal view is it's sad that football has got to the stage where fans and clubs think they are above the competition.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

36 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

people always bang on about us being a sleeping giant . 

Which people?

I never hear City fans refer to ourselves as 'sleeping giants'.

Ive heard TV pundits and other clubs fans call us Sleeping Giants. 

We've never been giants so we can't be sleeping giants. We do however have a huge amount of potential and good fanbase that would easily fill AG in the Prem if we were ever lucky enough to get there.

[Littlesh*t]

1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

I never called you a gashed I said you sounded like one, because they obsess over attendances you called our support bad when it wasn't and has been pointed out to you by everyone else

I stand by the fact that I believe our crowd was poor in relation to the pricing the same as I think it was poor across the country. 

[jj77]

33 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I will start by saying those who attended last night i thought we created a very good atmosphere.

now to my main point, I couldn't believe how poor the attendance was last night. people always moan about the price of football but last night was more than reasonable against any team let alone premiership opposition. 

people always bang on about us being a sleeping giant and how we take 40,000 to wemberly but we can't get over 20,000 for a premier league side at only £12 a ticket. 

I know some struggle with evening games because of work and other commitments but there are also a lot who must have just decided they couldn't be bothered. I get people can't go every week because of money and other things but surely if our fan base and catchment area is as big as a lot of people make out then we should have had a much higher attendance than last night. 

 

 

Sorry I wasn't there.

Bake off was on.

[Bar BS3]

28 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The crowd last night of 13,826 was very good.

There was 6,600 at Palace v Huddersfield, an all-Premier League tie.

11,000 at Villa v Boro

11,800 at Burnley v Leeds

8,700 at Reading v Swansea etc etc

 

I think, in comparison to some other (interesting) attendances listed there, just shy of 14,000 was a pretty good showing. 

I very, very rarely miss a home game, but with my 3 year old now at pre-school, I simply can't keep him out until 10.30pm on a school night. 

[Monkeh]

6 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I stand by the fact that I believe our crowd was poor in relation to the pricing the same as I think it was poor across the country. 

and I stand by the fact that you are wrong

[Bar BS3]

5 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Which people?

I never hear City fans refer to ourselves as 'sleeping giants'.

Ive heard TV pundits and other clubs fans call us sleeping giants  

Ummmm... TV pundits & other teams fans, maybe...?! 

[Littlesh*t]

1 minute ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Which people?

I never hear City fans refer to ourselves as 'sleeping giants'.

Ive heard TV pundits and other clubs fans call us Sleeping Giants. 

We've never been giants so we can't be sleeping giants. We do however have a huge amount of potential and good fanbase that would fill AG in the Prem if we were ever lucky enough to get there.

I have heard plenty of city fans say it as well. I agree that we what you say that we have a lot of potential.

you say we would fill the gate but people have already stated that it wasn't man u,man city, Liverpool,arsenal,Chelsea or Tottenham so would we?

there are a lot smaller sides than stoke in the prem but people are dismissing them

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

6 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I think attendances were poor across all the club's in the competition but I couldn't give 2 shits about any other side and this I a BRISTOL CITY FORUM. 

my personal view is it's sad that football has got to the stage where fans and clubs think they are above the competition.

I know it's a City forum mate but I think the point is that if you look at other attendances you get an impression of how important this competition is to fans in general. Like the JPT you're going to get lower crowds for earlier rounds but as soon as you get a sniff of Wembley everyone wants a ticket.

It doesn't make our attendance last night poor, it was better than most.

[Monkeh]

2 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Ummmm... TV pundits & other teams fans, maybe...?! 

I haven't heard a pundit call us a sleeping giant since danny wilson was here, and the only fans I hear calling us are gasheads using it to mock us,

[Super]

Crowd was more than i thought last night for this competition which is probably on its last legs.

[Bar BS3]

7 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I stand by the fact that I believe our crowd was poor in relation to the pricing the same as I think it was poor across the country. 

As with last season, the next round will see an increase in interest. 

What did we get Vs Hull? 16/17k..?

At 4th round stage you are getting close to potentially massive fixtures. 

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I have heard plenty of city fans say it as well. I agree that we what you say that we have a lot of potential.

you say we would fill the gate but people have already stated that it wasn't man u,man city, Liverpool,arsenal,Chelsea or Tottenham so would we?

there are a lot smaller sides than stoke in the prem but people are dismissing them

For a Premiership fixture against Stoke? Yes I think we would.

Last night was a league cup fixture. You can't compare the two.

 

[Bar BS3]

3 minutes ago, Super said:

Crowd was more than i thought last night for this competition which is probably on its last legs.

A place in Europe for the winners means that this competition will last a good while yet. 

I actually think that something as simple as having a different sponsor every season/other season, doesn't help the image. Especially a brand that nobody has heard of. 

Would be so much better to not chase the money ALL the time and keep it as "The League Cup"

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

I stand by the fact that I believe our crowd was poor in relation to the pricing the same as I think it was poor across the country. 

So it's the competition then, isn't it?

It is sad but the league cup is roundly just not very exciting, shown by apathy up and down the country. Plus it's a Tuesday night, plus it's Stoke, and frankly the expectation both teams set up as close to a friendly game as it can be in lineups. 

And it came 3 days after a bring 2 mates for a tenner which did have a good turnout... so we learn pricing was effective for a Saturday league game, but a Tuesday night v Stoke in a pretty badly supported competition. I doubt SL is reading too much in to 13k.

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

7 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Ummmm... TV pundits & other teams fans, maybe...?! 

Well yes...I did answer my own question there 

[Littlesh*t]

Just now, Bar BS3 said:

A place in Europe for the winners means that this competition will last a good while yet. 

I actually think that something as simple as having a different sponsor every season/other season, doesn't help the image. Especially a brand that nobody has heard of. 

Would be so much better to not chase the money ALL the time and keep it as "The League Cup"

exactly this and also give it a champs league place instead of 4th place in the prem

[Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

exactly this and also give it a champs league place instead of 4th place in the prem

Good idea.

[Bar BS3]

3 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

exactly this and also give it a champs league place instead of 4th place in the prem

I couldn't disagree more!

Nobody but "The Champions" should qualify for the "Champions League"

Everyone one else should get a place in the Europa League.  

Maybe bring back the Cup winners cup if needs be. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

4 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I couldn't disagree more!

Nobody but "The Champions" should qualify for the "Champions League"

Everyone one else should get a place in the Europa League.  

Maybe bring back the Cup winners cup if needs be. 

Perhaps bring in a new/old fangled idea...straight knockout home and away from the off through to the semis.

Seems a great idea, surprised nobody has thought of it before. 

[Monkeh]

3 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

I couldn't disagree more!

Nobody but "The Champions" should qualify for the "Champions League"

Everyone one else should get a place in the Europa League.  

Maybe bring back the Cup winners cup if needs be. 

in deed, the champions league lost all meaning to me when 2nd, 3rd and 4th places got a spot,

there shouldn't be a qualifying phase, all euro leagues champions should qualify automatically,  it may mean TNS vs Arsenal but so be it, the money tose lesser clubs would make would strengthern their respective leagues which in the long term would be better for football as a whole.

[Robbored]

47 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

The crowd last night of 13,826 was very good.

There was 6,600 at Palace v Huddersfield, an all-Premier League tie.

11,000 at Villa v Boro

11,800 at Burnley v Leeds

8,700 at Reading v Swansea etc etc

 

Don't let facts spoil a good whinge Kid! 

[BRISTOL86]

The attendance was around 75% of our average home crowd. So 3 out of every 4 turned up. 

Not sure how you can class that as bad support. 

[NOTBLUE]

49 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

but surely we all support city so the main attraction is watching our team, lining up against a better quality team is just a bonus

 

49 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

but surely we all support city so the main attraction is watching our team, lining up against a better quality team is just a bonus

I have seen us play Stoke many times,home and away,I can't get excited about playing them in the League cup,league game I'd be there and be as excited as I am at every game I attend,which is every home game and a few away games.

[lenred]

Personally thought it was a very very good and very vocal turnout last night and we did ourselves proud both on and off the pitch. It was a cracking night of football. Anyone that thinks that teams like Stoke, WBA, Everton etc don't take this cup seriously are wrong. Maybe the big 4/5 don't but with a Euro spot at stake and little chance of silverware elsewhere this cup does still mean something. 

[RedLionLad]

58 minutes ago, Littlesh*t said:

over the years it wouldn't have been but my personal view is city have moved forward from those figures and my main point is the pricing/attendance. as I stated before I think it was a big opportunity to show Lansdown that we would pack the gate every week if the pricing was lower. 

How much lower would you have liked?

[Redtucks]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Thought the crowd was not too bad.

Know a few people who went owing to the lowered prices though. Would be interesting to know what % last night were non regulars.

I commented last night that I recognised very few who were sat around us!

[robinreliant]

Tuesday footy is a no no for me as I have other commitments. Would love to have gone as under floodlights is special at the gate.

Every time Tuesday comes and city play home I wish I could be there. Any more like me out there. ?   

[awbb]

Stoke would definitely be classed as one of those "No glamour, no chance" games. Much like Watford!

The fact we have won both ties has me scratching my head somewhat.

The League Cup is unlikely to ever be scrapped, I should think, but the lack of prize money means the teams that have a chance of winning it, generally, don't take it seriously until they're in the last 4 and using their strongest team in 2 games is unlikely to impact their Premier League earnings that much.

The FA Cup suffers from a similar issue - the winners of the FA Cup this season will get £1.8 Million*. To us, that is lovely but hardly vital (thanks to Benevolent Uncle Steve). To Premier League teams, it probably wouldn't even cover the performance bonus for actually winning the thing, but is nothing, nothing, compared to simply BEING in The Premier League, so all their effort and focus is upon retaining that. The FA Cup, at least, has a pedigree and history that makes it slightly more important.

It seems to be that until prize money for both competitions becomes relevant, teams won't take them seriously (despite the BBC's coverage desperately telling us otherwise) and until teams take it seriously fans won't take it seriously.

* Finishing 1 place higher in the Premier League that you would have done otherwise is a bonus of £2 Million (bottom gets £2M, 19th gets £4M and so on up the table). So finishing 1 place higher in The Premier League is more valuable, prize money wise, than winning the FA Cup. Mad.  

[Littlesh*t]

25 minutes ago, RedLionLad said:

How much lower would you have liked?

I'm guessing you haven't read the whole post? 

i wasn't saying make it lower last night, I was saying because it was cheap last night it was a good opportunity to show that more fans would turn up if normal prices were slightly cheaper. like I say 20 is plenty

[Mr Popodopolous]

11 minutes ago, Redtucks said:

I commented last night that I recognised very few who were sat around us!

Thought that the case in my area also.

Seemed a bit of an older school feel to some of the crowd- no bad thing, that can help bolster the atmosphere, and obviously helped by ticket prices.

[1bristolcity]

It is a tin pot cup competition, that's why. The clue is in admission prices, so not a bad gate at all. 

 

[Monkeh]

23 minutes ago, awbb said:

Stoke would definitely be classed as one of those "No glamour, no chance" games. Much like Watford!

The fact we have won both ties has me scratching my head somewhat.

The League Cup is unlikely to ever be scrapped, I should think, but the lack of prize money means the teams that have a chance of winning it, generally, don't take it seriously until they're in the last 4 and using their strongest team in 2 games is unlikely to impact their Premier League earnings that much.

The FA Cup suffers from a similar issue - the winners of the FA Cup this season will get £1.8 Million*. To us, that is lovely but hardly vital (thanks to Benevolent Uncle Steve). To Premier League teams, it probably wouldn't even cover the performance bonus for actually winning the thing, but is nothing, nothing, compared to simply BEING in The Premier League, so all their effort and focus is upon retaining that. The FA Cup, at least, has a pedigree and history that makes it slightly more important.

It seems to be that until prize money for both competitions becomes relevant, teams won't take them seriously (despite the BBC's coverage desperately telling us otherwise) and until teams take it seriously fans won't take it seriously.

* Finishing 1 place higher in the Premier League that you would have done otherwise is a bonus of £2 Million (bottom gets £2M, 19th gets £4M and so on up the table). So finishing 1 place higher in The Premier League is more valuable, prize money wise, than winning the FA Cup. Mad.  

How many tilsons is that?

[TV Tom]

What a strange post, here was me thinking what an excellent crowd we had last night 

[Bristol Rob]

1 hour ago, BRISTOL86 said:

The attendance was around 75% of our average home crowd. So 3 out of every 4 turned up. 

Not sure how you can class that as bad support. 

I was that 4th person.

In my defence, I had a note from my mum excusing me from attending.

[Gert Mare]

2 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Look at the figures in KITR's post and then ask the same question to fans of Palace, Villa, Burnley and Boro....all 'bigger' clubs than us.

We weren't playing Man Utd or Chelsea last night. The attendance was pretty good especially compared to others.

 

Wolves didn't have a bad turn out, but that was because it was the Sags "Cup Final"

[hantsred]

will people stop calling it a micky mouse or tin pot cup. Maybe if you are a high flying premiership club just maybe it is more a distraction then a serious focus but for the rest of us it a great opportunity to play cup rounds and test the depth of our squad and who knows.... just maybe the end gold pot of Wembley (or should I say wenberley??).

Personally think attendance was good last night a judging by the queue for tickets there were a lot of POTD who turned up.

[Esmond Million's Bung]

2 hours ago, Littlesh*t said:

that's fine but do you not think it's sad that fans think one of the biggest cups isn't important? 

also what were the prices at these other games?

I think last night was a perfect opportunity to show Lansdown that if he gets the pricing correct we will pack the gate. I'm a big supporter of the 20 is plenty campaign

One of the biggest cups and to certain degree the FA cup has been made less important by the premier league clubs who generally play reserve/youth teams especially in the early rounds, even we made 9 changes from what is considered our starting 11.

To be honest almost 14k for a 3rd round tie against one of the lesser premiership lights I believe is encouraging, I was expecting below 10k.

[NOTBLUE]

3 minutes ago, hantsred said:

will people stop calling it a micky mouse or tin pot cup. Maybe if you are a high flying premiership club just maybe it is more a distraction then a serious focus but for the rest of us it a great opportunity to play cup rounds and test the depth of our squad and who knows.... just maybe the end gold pot of Wembley (or should I say wenberley??).

Personally think attendance was good last night a judging by the queue for tickets there were a lot of POTD who turned up.

Wait and see how "tinpot" it is if we get a big club in the next round.

[Leveller]

2 hours ago, Monkeh said:

in deed, the champions league lost all meaning to me when 2nd, 3rd and 4th places got a spot,

there shouldn't be a qualifying phase, all euro leagues champions should qualify automatically,  it may mean TNS vs Arsenal but so be it, the money tose lesser clubs would make would strengthern their respective leagues which in the long term would be better for football as a whole.

No, it was lovely for the champions of Norway etc when they automatically got in, but they are just not as worthy as the second teams in Spain, Italy etc.

One of my earliest memories is of Revie's Leeds beating Lynn Oslo 16-0 on aggregate. Fun, but pointless.

[TBW]

I forgot the game was on to be honest. League > Carabao. Make league tickets that price and I'm in.

Or if it was a top six Premier League team then again would be more likely to attend. Stoke? Nah.

[Bris Red]

2 hours ago, hantsred said:

will people stop calling it a micky mouse or tin pot cup. Maybe if you are a high flying premiership club just maybe it is more a distraction then a serious focus but for the rest of us it a great opportunity to play cup rounds and test the depth of our squad and who knows.... just maybe the end gold pot of Wembley (or should I say wenberley??).

Personally think attendance was good last night a judging by the queue for tickets there were a lot of POTD who turned up.

Its true. What a bit of silverware that would be for us the league cup.. would be massive.

[exAtyeoMax]

5 hours ago, Littlesh*t said:

I will start by saying those who attended last night i thought we created a very good atmosphere.

now to my main point, I couldn't believe how poor the attendance was last night. people always moan about the price of football but last night was more than reasonable against any team let alone premiership opposition. 

people always bang on about us being a sleeping giant and how we take 40,000 to wemberly but we can't get over 20,000 for a premier league side at only £12 a ticket. 

I know some struggle with evening games because of work and other commitments but there are also a lot who must have just decided they couldn't be bothered. I get people can't go every week because of money and other things but surely if our fan base and catchment area is as big as a lot of people make out then we should have had a much higher attendance than last night. 

 

 

I couldn't come because I live in London and couldn't get time off work. I don't have much holiday left till the end of March so can't keep taking random days off, I'm afraid. Don't forget we have our FA Cup run to come too! I've got to save up for the Wembley trip(s)… 

[Jack Dawe]

4 hours ago, Littlesh*t said:

I'm guessing you haven't read the whole post? 

i wasn't saying make it lower last night, I was saying because it was cheap last night it was a good opportunity to show that more fans would turn up if normal prices were slightly cheaper. like I say 20 is plenty

If you look at attendances in the football league, across the country, crowds at midweek games tend to be a little lower than weekend games. Many reasons for this, including things like away followings are smaller because of taking time off work (even with varied working hours nowadays) and some people might not take under 12s on a school night, not when a cup tie might go on until past 10pm with extra time and penalties.

The cheap games last season were all on the weekend, I think, and very well attended, the exception being Hull in the league cup. Unfashionable PL opposition like last night but a 16,100 crowd with fewer visiting fans than Stoke brought, because it was half-term. I myself took two under 16s to that Hull game, and none last night.

Also, the closest comparison to our fixture last night - Championship club v unfashionable Prem team - Reading v Swansea attracted 8,700 punters. So, we did alright compared to Reading, not that that's much to shout about.

I think cheaper tickets will attract more interest for some fixtures, but not all.