cheshire_red Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Impressively in 5th spot with 18 points from 9 games and a good performance and five goals against Sunderland this evening. They have won 6 and lost three so far. However, 5 of their victories were against the current bottom 5 and the 6th a 3-4 win at mid table Millwall. Flattering to deceive? We will see on Saturday at a ground we have a pretty poor record at, having gained a hard fought draw at their East Anglian rivals last weekend we should be able to get at least a point this weekend. They are due a draw.
Lrrr Posted September 26, 2017 Posted September 26, 2017 Any points and we'll have done well for this.
Southend Blue Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 It was a good night, the only downside was a lack of attendance. Many vowed to stay away after the crap from last season although many may be regretting their decision. Some were adamant they would not attend another home game when it got to a certain point and until McCarthy resigned / was removed from position. Fair enough I respect their decision, it was horrendous for a time, but no-one could have seen the improvement we have made since the summer. We were somewhat unfortunate to see defeat at Leeds at the weekend, the goalkeeper made an uncharacteristic error and with a better defence, we would have left with something. In a false position if ever there was one, their loss at Cardiff tonight shows them up for what they are. Would be very surprised to see them in the premier league again by August. I expect your visit on Saturday may be similar to last time out, we should win although by a marrow margin. Possibly another late goal that will see us progress further and there is some belief at last we can challenge again this season after almost hitting rock bottom a few short months ago. I had a look on this site earlier and consensus was Bolton played poorly tonight and it was something of a scrappy game, ironically we did similar a week or two back when beating the same opposition. Not going to plan too far ahead but tonight was a very good display from most of the players and if they can duplicate what just occurred, then against your team this weekend we will have a good chance of victory.
EmersonsRed Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, Southend Blue said: It was a good night, the only downside was a lack of attendance. Many vowed to stay away after the crap from last season although many may be regretting their decision. Some were adamant they would not attend another home game when it got to a certain point and until McCarthy resigned / was removed from position. Fair enough I respect their decision, it was horrendous for a time, but no-one could have seen the improvement we have made since the summer. We were somewhat unfortunate to see defeat at Leeds at the weekend, the goalkeeper made an uncharacteristic error and with a better defence, we would have left with something. In a false position if ever there was one, their loss at Cardiff tonight shows them up for what they are. Would be very surprised to see them in the premier league again by August. I expect your visit on Saturday may be similar to last time out, we should win although by a marrow margin. Possibly another late goal that will see us progress further and there is some belief at last we can challenge again this season after almost hitting rock bottom a few short months ago. I had a look on this site earlier and consensus was Bolton played poorly tonight and it was something of a scrappy game, ironically we did similar a week or two back when beating the same opposition. Not going to plan too far ahead but tonight was a very good display from most of the players and if they can duplicate what just occurred, then against your team this weekend we will have a good chance of victory. Funny, opinions in football. Have a friend who is a die hard Tractor Boy and thinks you've been lucky in almost every game apart from last night where you battered a woeful looking Sunderland side
Southend Blue Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 No he's not wrong, there has been a level of fortune this season but the indisputable truth is we've made a real turnaround since the summer. Fair enough we're not a plateau with the Holland team of the 1970's right now, but instead of absolute mediocrity last season we have shown a greater determination and more willingness to have a go. I admit, we've picked up points against some poor teams already this season, but other than any amount of luck that has come our way we've shown a tendency to battle that was strongly missing from before. I don't know what the answer is, many of our supporters are bemused by the new approach. Put it down to new additions in the summer or new team ethics, but luck aside, we're simply not the pushovers from before. Are we promotion material ? Not really. Have we improved or can give any team a game in this division right now ? When all players are playing to their potential and with the right attitude, by all means Yes
Up The City! Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Southend Blue said: No he's not wrong, there has been a level of fortune this season but the indisputable truth is we've made a real turnaround since the summer. Fair enough we're not a plateau with the Holland team of the 1970's right now, but instead of absolute mediocrity last season we have shown a greater determination and more willingness to have a go. I admit, we've picked up points against some poor teams already this season, but other than any amount of luck that has come our way we've shown a tendency to battle that was strongly missing from before. I don't know what the answer is, many of our supporters are bemused by the new approach. Put it down to new additions in the summer or new team ethics, but luck aside, we're simply not the pushovers from before. Are we promotion material ? Not really. Have we improved or can give any team a game in this division right now ? When all players are playing to their potential and with the right attitude, by all means Yes You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously.
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously. You've only gone and done a Barnsley-Tyke. FFS! We're going to get battered now
Littlesh*t Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously. we are doing great so far this season but you are making us sound like world beaters. yes Ipswich are beatable but so are we. you mention there result against palace but don't forget we are the only side to lose to Brum. I hope for another 3 points and think we can achieve that but let's not expect to get it and get carried away
LondonBristolian Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I'd be happy with a point Saturday. I am not sure Ipswich can sustain a challenge all season but they are a decent side. Last season it seemed like Mick McCarthy had been there a bit too long and gone a little stale but he is nonetheless a good, experienced manager. I would be happy to keep the unbeaten run going and get a point and I reckon a draw is the most likely outcome...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I am thinking draw on Saturday. Ipswich seem to have begun very well and momentum in football and confidence really can feed ofg each other. Then again, we too have started rather well. We seem quite durable this year. Tricky away game though, our record there isn't great so would certainly take a draw.
Chairman Mao Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Haven't we not won at Portland Road since the 70s or something's stupid?
Edge1981 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 For me, a draw would be one heck of a result. Let’s not get too carried away with ourselves and expect us to beat every team we face. We should fear no one but we have a terrible record at Ipswich and regardless of who they have played, they are 2 points off 2nd place with a game in hand.
Edge1981 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, Chairman Mao said: Haven't we not won at Portland Road since the 70s or something's stupid? I can’t think of us winning there since I’ve been following City. All I can remember is the 6-0 spanking we took during he play off season
Admin Ian M Posted September 27, 2017 Admin Posted September 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, Edge1981 said: I can’t think of us winning there since I’ve been following City. All I can remember is the 6-0 spanking we took during he play off season The only time I have seen City at Portman Road. Don't worry, I'm keeping away Saturday.
Cider-Head23 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I don't really buy into we haven't won there in such and such time. It's more a psychological thing for the fans I think, Alright we lost there last year with this crop of players.. But some of the current team would of never played at Portman Road before.. and who knows Paterson may have won there with Forest, Brownhill with Preston in recent years. If we go there and play well enough on the day we will get a result and that maybe all three points. at least another point will top off a superb September.
1bristolcity Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 8 hours ago, cheshire_red said: Impressively in 5th spot with 18 points from 9 games and a good performance and five goals against Sunderland this evening. They have won 6 and lost three so far. However, 5 of their victories were against the current bottom 5 and the 6th a 3-4 win at mid table Millwall. Flattering to deceive? We will see on Saturday at a ground we have a pretty poor record at, having gained a hard fought draw at their East Anglian rivals last weekend we should be able to get at least a point this weekend. They are due a draw. Noticed they are yet to draw, and we are the draw specialists, so make of that what you will.
Robin101 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Think we can do well against a team out to attack. Tempted to back a city win, but I'll temper myself and say 2-2.
Offside Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I've been to Portman Road three times to watch City - three defeats, no City goals and three abysmal performances. Luckily I'm not going on Saturday. I think it'll be a draw.
MichaelRobartes Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Would be happy enough with a point and ideally another clean sheet.
Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Up The City! said: Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. What about us and Birmingham? They cannot buy a win against anyone bar us. Regarding their defeat to Palace means absolutely nothing when they made 11 changes, the whole side was dropped for that game, so you can read all you want into that but I wouldn't even put that on the radar at all myself. I would take a point now away from home and keep the unbeaten run going, would like us to go for the 3 points though and put in a bit of a "performance".
Lew-T Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously. This is the sort of post that will bite you on the ass... 5-0 loss incoming...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously. Ffs. Why do people do this. We are no where near good enough to say we are going to smash teams away, we only have a handfull of away wins in like two seasons. We need to be respectful of a clinical Ipswich team that will be well organised & full of confidence.
LondonBristolian Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Up The City! said: Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Absolutely right. Ipswich are part of a very select group who have lost to Palace. That tells us everything we need to know about their season. Just like Huddersfield being part of a very select group who lost 4-0 to us last season showed how much they were going to struggle. Just like Brighton were part of a very select group of teams we beat away last season. And the idiots thought they might get automatic promotion! Taking one result of evidence of where a team is, especially in a competition like the League Cup, is a massive error.
Cider-Head23 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Ffs. Why do people do this. We are no where near good enough to say we are going to smash teams away, we only have a handfull of away wins in like two seasons. We need to be respectful of a clinical Ipswich team that will be well organised & full of confidence. Agreed, always risky to call out an opposition fan and say your going to beat them who ever you play. Don't blame fans for getting carried away but we certainly have no divine right to go anywhere and win. I think we'd all be delighted if we keep picking up at least a point away from home with the odd win and concentrate on winning the vast majority of our home games.
Alex_BCFC Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 We rarely do well at Ipswich (last time we won there anyone?) and we have won 1 away game out of 5 in the league so far this, a narrow 1-0 at Reading. Whilst we are improving, to say we will smash them is laughable. I would be happy with a point. Any other result and I expect this forum to go in to meltdown.
cummins17 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Would defiantly take a point if it was offered now, Ipswich and McCarthy are certainly no mugs. Look like they've have added a little bit of class in their team this season going forward and they're getting the best out of Waghorn.
Portland Bill Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: Haven't we not won at Portland Road since the 70s or something's stupid? Have they renamed their ground.............after me
Kid in the Riot Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Southend Blue said: It was a good night, the only downside was a lack of attendance. Many vowed to stay away after the crap from last season although many may be regretting their decision. Some were adamant they would not attend another home game when it got to a certain point and until McCarthy resigned / was removed from position. Fair enough I respect their decision, it was horrendous for a time, but no-one could have seen the improvement we have made since the summer. We were somewhat unfortunate to see defeat at Leeds at the weekend, the goalkeeper made an uncharacteristic error and with a better defence, we would have left with something. In a false position if ever there was one, their loss at Cardiff tonight shows them up for what they are. Would be very surprised to see them in the premier league again by August. I expect your visit on Saturday may be similar to last time out, we should win although by a marrow margin. Possibly another late goal that will see us progress further and there is some belief at last we can challenge again this season after almost hitting rock bottom a few short months ago. I had a look on this site earlier and consensus was Bolton played poorly tonight and it was something of a scrappy game, ironically we did similar a week or two back when beating the same opposition. Not going to plan too far ahead but tonight was a very good display from most of the players and if they can duplicate what just occurred, then against your team this weekend we will have a good chance of victory. 10 hours ago, Southend Blue said: No he's not wrong, there has been a level of fortune this season but the indisputable truth is we've made a real turnaround since the summer. Fair enough we're not a plateau with the Holland team of the 1970's right now, but instead of absolute mediocrity last season we have shown a greater determination and more willingness to have a go. I admit, we've picked up points against some poor teams already this season, but other than any amount of luck that has come our way we've shown a tendency to battle that was strongly missing from before. I don't know what the answer is, many of our supporters are bemused by the new approach. Put it down to new additions in the summer or new team ethics, but luck aside, we're simply not the pushovers from before. Are we promotion material ? Not really. Have we improved or can give any team a game in this division right now ? When all players are playing to their potential and with the right attitude, by all means Yes I think us and you are in a pretty similar position at the moment to be honest. Both clubs had very disappointing seasons last time around with enormous pressure on the managers to be sacked at various points throughout the year. Both weathered the storms though to an extent and we've both made encouraging starts to the season. But just like Ipswich fans, we can't afford to get carried away as we saw this at the start of last season before things went south very quickly. It does however sound like you are a better outfit than you were last season, I think Garner and Waghorn were shrewd signings at a mill each. We also seem to have a bit more resilience about us. You've rode your luck on occasion as have we in games at Brentford, Reading and probably Wolves as well. I'm hoping for an entertaining game. I watched the highlights of the Sunderland game and you created a lot of chances and maybe could've had more than 5! I was encouraged by some of your defending though and feel we will get opportunities to score on Saturday. Last time I visited Portman Rd was for the 2-2 draw a couple of years ago and I wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of that score line at the weekend.
ExiledAjax Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I suspect the wheels will come off for Ipswich eventually. They have won matches narrowly and have allowed teams to take an awful lot of shots against them whilst creating relatively few chances themselves. Whilst the home form is excellent away from Portman Road they have been pretty indifferent. I expect them to slip back into mid table before too long - but I am not fool enough to suggest that this regression will start on Saturday. Note that at home they are getting 2.4 points per game whilst when we play away we are averaging 1.2. An away draw would (as always) be excellent.
The Fat Controller Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 A point away to Ipswich is fine provided we beat Burton at home in the following game.
Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 A point and i'd be happy, 3 over the moon but honestly think that the Ipswich away game will be the hardest this year alongside Leeds and Cardiff
cheshire_red Posted September 27, 2017 Author Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Eastside Moonwalker said: A point and i'd be happy, 3 over the moon but honestly think that the Ipswich away game will be the hardest this year alongside Leeds and Cardiff WHy?
Guest Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, cheshire_red said: WHy? Why what? They're a well organised team who have bought well and are in a great run of form in a stadium that is typically hard to get points at away?
Top Robin Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I don't know whats the matter with you lot! Surely we are now at a level where we should be saying that we can win that one. We are near the top of the table, haven't lost in 8 and have beaten prem sides on the way. For gods sake start backing the team!........I'm sure the players recon they can win each game.
RumRed Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Top Robin said: I don't know whats the matter with you lot! Surely we are now at a level where we should be saying that we can win that one. We are near the top of the table, haven't lost in 8 and have beaten prem sides on the way. For gods sake start backing the team!........I'm sure the players recon they can win each game. It’s when belief becomes expectation that things can go south both on the pitch and in the stands.
lenred Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Top Robin said: I don't know whats the matter with you lot! Surely we are now at a level where we should be saying that we can win that one. We are near the top of the table, haven't lost in 8 and have beaten prem sides on the way. For gods sake start backing the team!........I'm sure the players recon they can win each game. Respecting the opposition and saying we'd be happy with a point is not not 'backing the team'. It's having realistic aims against an in form team who are at home at a ground where we don't traditionally do fantastically well.
BCFC_Dan Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Going by the expected goal stats at https://experimental361.com/2017/09/17/scatter-graphics-championship-17-sep-2017/ they could be this season's Reading. Reading spent all of last season looking appalling in terms of expected goals, yet did pretty well in terms of actual goals, and it turns out it's those that count. Ipswich could regress to where the stats suggest they should be; somewhere in the bottom half, or they could defy the model as Reading did and reach the playoff final. It's definitely too early to say. Given that they're a side in good form, with a very savvy manager, who we have a pretty poor record against at their ground, I'd be extremely happy with a point. But I'd expect to beat them were it at Ashton Gate.
EssexTractor Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I've only signed up as a few of your mention we lost to Palace. Yes we did, but before making assumptions, please take a look at our team and tell me how many of our team you have heard of. 5 made the first senior appearance. Stats are pointless. We had 70% plus possession at points in the second half last night, but sat back after their second goal and the possession stats dropped. Stats don't show the true picture of a game
RumRed Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, EssexTractor said: I've only signed up as a few of your mention we lost to Palace. Yes we did, but before making assumptions, please take a look at our team and tell me how many of our team you have heard of. 5 made the first senior appearance. We lost to Brum, only a few on here are playing at being billy big balls at this stage of the season.
Swede Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 At a place we notoriously do bad at I would take a point. I must admit I thought Ipswich were one of the poorer sides I saw last season which makes their upturn this season all the more remarkable. Perhaps it underlines that McCarthy knows a little more about management than the majority of Town fans! What I am looking for is a really good dynamic performance from City. Time will tell if we can keep with the style of high tempo football in the relentless fixture list. Surely, if we carry on with the momentum then a draw is the very least we should expect.
EssexTractor Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 Something else to consider, we've had 10 injuries at once at points of the season so far (hence the Palace team was full of youths rather than reserves). We had all 3 senior CB injured for a good 4 weeka and Chambers has only come back the last couple of games. The other two are still out. Similar applies for our CMs. Adeyami is now back and has made a huge difference
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Chairman Mao said: Haven't we not won at Portland Road since the 70s or something's stupid? 1 hour ago, Alex_BCFC said: We rarely do well at Ipswich (last time we won there anyone?) Last win at Portman Road - 23 Sept 1978 - Ipswich Town 0 Bristol City 1....
chipdawg Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, BCFC_Dan said: Going by the expected goal stats at https://experimental361.com/2017/09/17/scatter-graphics-championship-17-sep-2017/ they could be this season's Reading. Reading spent all of last season looking appalling in terms of expected goals, yet did pretty well in terms of actual goals, and it turns out it's those that count. Ipswich could regress to where the stats suggest they should be; somewhere in the bottom half, or they could defy the model as Reading did and reach the playoff final. It's definitely too early to say. Given that they're a side in good form, with a very savvy manager, who we have a pretty poor record against at their ground, I'd be extremely happy with a point. But I'd expect to beat them were it at Ashton Gate. As an aside, the stats on shots there perhaps give an indication on why our game against Bolton was so scrappy; they don't seem to allow a lot of chances. In fact the number of shots we had is well above the average used in that chart As for predictions of "smashing" Ipswich, STFU. A point will be a fine result, though I have a feeling we might sneak all 3
steveybadger Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: Absolutely right. Ipswich are part of a very select group who have lost to Palace. That tells us everything we need to know about their season. Just like Huddersfield being part of a very select group who lost 4-0 to us last season showed how much they were going to struggle. Just like Brighton were part of a very select group of teams we beat away last season. And the idiots thought they might get automatic promotion! Taking one result of evidence of where a team is, especially in a competition like the League Cup, is a massive error. Ruthlessly correct!
Edge1981 Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 1 hour ago, cityboy said: I'd take a point if offered right now. Agreed
NOTBLUE Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Last win at Portman Road - 23 Sept 1978 - Ipswich Town 0 Bristol City 1.... My one and only visit to Ipswich,I think it might of been on match of the day,my abiding memory though is of cups of p*** being thrown by both sets of fans.
cidered abroad Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Cider-Head23 said: I don't really buy into we haven't won there in such and such time. It's more a psychological thing for the fans I think, Alright we lost there last year with this crop of players.. But some of the current team would of never played at Portman Road before.. and who knows Paterson may have won there with Forest, Brownhill with Preston in recent years. If we go there and play well enough on the day we will get a result and that maybe all three points. at least another point will top off a superb September. In the mind or not, it is peculiar how all clubs appear to have"bunnies" who they always get results against and the "bogeys" where they continually lose. We haven't won at Molineux since 1931 and Ipswich in forty years. Yet we can usually expect to get a result at Watford or Fulham. I remember some years ago that we won our first match at Middlesbrough in 90 years and now we seem to win there most times. Psychological or pure chance? I haven't a clue but it happens too often.
BITW Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, tinman85 said: We do need to pick up more points away. Just one win so far. Need 3 on sat to cement top six. We are capable of beating them. Win your home games and draw your away games
Coombsy Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 I'm surrounded by them over here and Rommy's research made a penny drop in my thinking. You never - ever - hear from them when they lose or hit bad form, but a win or two and out they all come from the woodwork. They have never had much success and we may be dealing with a lack of self-confidence here. A bit like another team I know. Just a thought. I haven't looked at anything they have posted since their win over Bolton, but everything before that pointed to (a) a tight defence and (b) profligacy in front of goal. They score a few and create plenty of chances, but there is a pattern of being very wasteful. It would make my life easier if we beat them on Saturday.
Grey Fox Posted September 27, 2017 Posted September 27, 2017 we will win 3-2. Mind you last time i went there we were near the top of the league, and lost 6-0..........
Ciderhead_ Luke Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Does anybody know how many tickets have been sold?
Never to the dark side Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pay-on-the-day-at-portman-road/
LondonBristolian Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 15 hours ago, cidered abroad said: In the mind or not, it is peculiar how all clubs appear to have"bunnies" who they always get results against and the "bogeys" where they continually lose. We haven't won at Molineux since 1931 and Ipswich in forty years. Yet we can usually expect to get a result at Watford or Fulham. I remember some years ago that we won our first match at Middlesbrough in 90 years and now we seem to win there most times. Psychological or pure chance? I haven't a clue but it happens too often. Psychology might play a part but I think chance is a huge part of it. But chance might create the psychology. Logically with any team a similar size to you, you would expect to win, draw or lose a relatively similar number of times. But it is a bit like tossing a coin. If you toss a coin 50 times in a row you might expect 25 heads and 25 tails but, because each toss is separate, there is a 50:50 chance each time. You have as much chance of 50 heads in a row as you do getting HTHTHTHTHTHTHT etc.... Similarly, there will be teams similar sized to us who, for reasons of chance, we always happen to play in a bad patch of form or have bad luck on the day or whatever it is... However it could then be that once a team have, by chance, failed to win somewhere ten years in a row and the players, manager and fans become aware of that, a psychological element could creep in.
Garland-sweden Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 We lost their a couple of years ago 6-0. Their players making fun of City. On a tuesday night it was City-Ipswich. GJ said, tonight its not about the points, its paytime. We won 3-1 I think. Never forget. Think we have a good chance to win there at saturday. One point is also ok.
Kid in the Riot Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/pay-on-the-day-at-portman-road/ 350 tickets sold? Surely that's not right. According to the ticketing web site we've sold nearly 750 which sounds about right.
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 03:17, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously.
Nogbad the Bad Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 19 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Last win at Portman Road - 23 Sept 1978 - Ipswich Town 0 Bristol City 1.... Didn't go to that one, but did attend the 1-0 defeat there in the April of the previous season, so just a few months before. City lost 1-0 and it was memorable for being Ipswich's last home game before facing (and beating) Arsenal in the F.A. Cup Final. Hence we exited the ground to flags being waved all around Portman Road and Bobby Robson on the pitch lapping up the enthusiastic send off from the fans.
reddogkev Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 This game looks a certainty for a 1-0 win to me, which could really go either way. I'm watching the Ipswich situation with interest, as Mick received absolute shocking abuse last season, and you would have staked your house that he would've been sacked during the summer. Their immediate turn around so far is impressive, but will it last for the Tractor Boys? I see them dropping off and finishing about 12th in the table - will their fans support Mick then, or still clamour for his dismissal? I feel we'll be evenly matched on the weekend, and it will be a tough game, as it always is. If I was Lee Johnson, I would be approaching this game in a very positive mind-set and aiming for a win, as we have to try to keep our momentum going.
Major Isewater Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, LondonBristolian said: Psychology might play a part but I think chance is a huge part of it. But chance might create the psychology. Logically with any team a similar size to you, you would expect to win, draw or lose a relatively similar number of times. But it is a bit like tossing a coin. If you toss a coin 50 times in a row you might expect 25 heads and 25 tails but, because each toss is separate, there is a 50:50 chance each time. You have as much chance of 50 heads in a row as you do getting HTHTHTHTHTHTHT etc.... Similarly, there will be teams similar sized to us who, for reasons of chance, we always happen to play in a bad patch of form or have bad luck on the day or whatever it is... However it could then be that once a team have, by chance, failed to win somewhere ten years in a row and the players, manager and fans become aware of that, a psychological element could creep in. To test out your theory I've been tossing here in France .
Major Isewater Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 1 hour ago, reddogkev said: This game looks a certainty for a 1-0 win to me, which could really go either way. I'm watching the Ipswich situation with interest, as Mick received absolute shocking abuse last season, and you would have staked your house that he would've been sacked during the summer. Their immediate turn around so far is impressive, but will it last for the Tractor Boys? I see them dropping off and finishing about 12th in the table - will their fans support Mick then, or still clamour for his dismissal? I feel we'll be evenly matched on the weekend, and it will be a tough game, as it always is. If I was Lee Johnson, I would be approaching this game in a very positive mind-set and aiming for a win, as we have to try to keep our momentum going. I think LJ always goes for the win . Our game management is one of the most impressive advances that we've made this year , all credit to the coaching team. We don't go gung ho anymore and our lads show intelligence and purpose in their play . It's great being a City fan these days .
EssexTractor Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 3 hours ago, reddogkev said: This game looks a certainty for a 1-0 win to me, which could really go either way. I'm watching the Ipswich situation with interest, as Mick received absolute shocking abuse last season, and you would have staked your house that he would've been sacked during the summer. Their immediate turn around so far is impressive, but will it last for the Tractor Boys? I see them dropping off and finishing about 12th in the table - will their fans support Mick then, or still clamour for his dismissal? I feel we'll be evenly matched on the weekend, and it will be a tough game, as it always is. If I was Lee Johnson, I would be approaching this game in a very positive mind-set and aiming for a win, as we have to try to keep our momentum going. Assuming he sticks with the philosophy of attacking games and producing performances like Tuesday, then yes our fans would support Mick if we inevitably finished mid table. What really sent the fans away was that he insisted on matching the opposition team (even those at the bottom), making sure we didn't lose, rather than play our own game and look to win. With the signings we've made (thanks to Evans opening his wallet slightly) and the change in approach, we've looked much better. MM admitted that he hadn't looked at Sunderland's previous games before Tuesday.
Admin Phantom Posted September 28, 2017 Admin Posted September 28, 2017 40 minutes ago, EssexTractor said: What really sent the fans away was that he insisted on matching the opposition team (even those at the bottom), making sure we didn't lose, rather than play our own game and look to win. Sounds very much our problem from last season
BS4 on Tour... Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 10 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said: Didn't go to that one, but did attend the 1-0 defeat there in the April of the previous season, so just a few months before. City lost 1-0 and it was memorable for being Ipswich's last home game before facing (and beating) Arsenal in the F.A. Cup Final. Hence we exited the ground to flags being waved all around Portman Road and Bobby Robson on the pitch lapping up the enthusiastic send off from the fans. That was one helluva side that Ipswich had back then, and a great manager too...
steviestevieneville Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 03:17, Up The City! said: You are reminding me of what we were like at this exact same stage last season. I see above you tip yourselves to win? If I'm honest I had you down as relegation favourites at the start of the season and despite your current position I would still consider you to be in danger. I've just had a quick look at your results for this season and I cant believe that when you compare ours and yours you fancy yourselves to win? Sorry mate but I think were gonna smash your hopes and dreams to pieces at the weekend. Just saw that your a part of a very select group, very few teams have lost to Palace this season and your one of them, that says it all about what you should be expecting this season. Don't get me wrong, enjoy where you are for now but just remain realistic and consider your in a pretty false position right now. One thing I guarantee you is you haven't played a team like us yet this season and it will be interesting to see how you handle playing against better opposition than you have done so far. If you get a result against us then I will start to take you seriously. Please don't start with the delusions of grandeur it's embarrassing you're acting like a gas head . Sorry that was a low blow but still , we're much improved and a lot more solid but could easily come unstuck Saturday. Interesting to see how we compare with them .
steviestevieneville Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 On 27/09/2017 at 13:34, EssexTractor said: I've only signed up as a few of your mention we lost to Palace. Yes we did, but before making assumptions, please take a look at our team and tell me how many of our team you have heard of. 5 made the first senior appearance. Stats are pointless. We had 70% plus possession at points in the second half last night, but sat back after their second goal and the possession stats dropped. Stats don't show the true picture of a game It was one poster who's basically been shot down by everyone else for getting carried away .
redsquirrel Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 i think it will be a seemingly boring 0-0 with an intense midfield battle cancelling each other out.neither side will risk conceding first,a single point in the bag is worth more than a risky 3 to both teams at the moment
1bristolcity Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 On 9/27/2017 at 13:27, Top Robin said: I don't know whats the matter with you lot! Surely we are now at a level where we should be saying that we can win that one. We are near the top of the table, haven't lost in 8 and have beaten prem sides on the way. For gods sake start backing the team!........I'm sure the players recon they can win each game. Agree, now if we were the Blades some might believe. This will be a test, but they must fear us.
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