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Presumably he'll guarantee promotion then leave in February with them bottom of the table because they only let him sign 15 players when he wanted 20.

Posted
51 minutes ago, Zip Nolan said:

As per title.

Pretty misleading thread title! He's held advisory roles at Bournemouth and Pompey in the past, just another South club leaning on his unbelievable experience...pretty sensible 

Posted
42 minutes ago, nickolas said:

Do Yeovil have a spare £20m for him to waste then?

Wahey! Another one who believes what they read in the media and has no idea of the truth! Never ceases to amaze me how many people think he 'ruins' the clubs he managed!! Here's a few examples to prove you wrong...

Harry bought Glen Johnson for £4m for Pompey, sold him to Liverpool for £17.5m

Harry bought Lassana Diarra for £5.5m for Pompey, sold him to Real Madrid less than a year later for £18.8m

Harry bought Sulley Muntari for £7.1m for Pompey, sold him to Inter Milan two years later for £13.6m

Harry bought Jermain Defoe for £6m for Pompey, he was sold to Spurs for £15.75m

Wasting money or generating huge profits?

Loads on here 'creamed' when we sold JK to Villa with a potential £13m profit....Harry has done that for years, whilst never 'ruining' any club he has managed and whilst never being found guilty of any financial misdemeanours...

Posted
5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Wahey! Another one who believes what they read in the media and has no idea of the truth! Never ceases to amaze me how many people think he 'ruins' the clubs he managed!! Here's a few examples to prove you wrong...

Harry bought Glen Johnson for £4m for Pompey, sold him to Liverpool for £17.5m

Harry bought Lassana Diarra for £5.5m for Pompey, sold him to Real Madrid less than a year later for £18.8m

Harry bought Sulley Muntari for £7.1m for Pompey, sold him to Inter Milan two years later for £13.6m

Harry bought Jermain Defoe for £6m for Pompey, he was sold to Spurs for £15.75m

Wasting money or generating huge profits?

Loads on here 'creamed' when we sold JK to Villa with a potential £13m profit....Harry has done that for years, whilst never 'ruining' any club he has managed and whilst never being found guilty of any financial misdemeanours...

Huh'hum. Portsmouth. 

Im sure the companies lucky to get a penny for every pound owed are happy with that. 

The bloke cant go anywhere without spending small fortunes. Without proper cash backing he aint nothing. 

He's a 'name' in the media cos hes a crafty cockney and they love him. Barely done a thing in the game. And being Harry Houdini in the relegation game isnt success!

Posted
8 minutes ago, nickolas said:

Huh'hum. Portsmouth. 

Im sure the companies lucky to get a penny for every pound owed are happy with that. 

The bloke cant go anywhere without spending small fortunes. Without proper cash backing he aint nothing. 

He's a 'name' in the media cos hes a crafty cockney and they love him. Barely done a thing in the game. And being Harry Houdini in the relegation game isnt success!

"Barely done a thing in the game..." HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!

"Without proper cash backing he ain't nothing"....he promoted Bournemouth to the second tier for the first time in their history in 1986/87 by winning a division with a tiny budget...

Posted
5 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

"Barely done a thing in the game..." HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!

To be fair his managerial record in terms of trophies for his stature is actually not that great. An FA Cup in 2008, did he win a league cup at any point? (Asking 'cos I genuinely don't know). His Spurs time was spectacular though.

Posted
9 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said:

To be fair his managerial record in terms of trophies for his stature is actually not that great. An FA Cup in 2008, did he win a league cup at any point? (Asking 'cos I genuinely don't know). His Spurs time was spectacular though.

Thanks for the reply....I'm not that impressed by trophies to be fair, one off cup ties can go either way. But Redknapp took Pompey into the Premier League and kept them up whilst the two other clubs who went up with them, with more resources, both went straight back down.

He took over a dreadful QPR team, they got relegated from the Premier League but Harry took them straight back up the next season.

He took Bournemouth into the second tier of English football for the first time in their history - as champions.

He took Spurs into the Champions League for the first time in their history....and they had some memorable nights/results 

etc etc etc 

Posted
6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Thanks for the reply....I'm not that impressed by trophies to be fair, one off cup ties can go either way. But Redknapp took Pompey into the Premier League and kept them up whilst the two other clubs who went up with them, with more resources, both went straight back down.

He took over a dreadful QPR team, they got relegated from the Premier League but Harry took them straight back up the next season.

He took Bournemouth into the second tier of English football for the first time in their history - as champions.

He took Spurs into the Champions League for the first time in their history....and they had some memorable nights/results 

etc etc etc 

Yes I don't doubt he's a good manager, but was surprised when I saw how few trophies he had won!

Posted
1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Pretty misleading thread title! He's held advisory roles at Bournemouth and Pompey in the past, just another South club leaning on his unbelievable experience...pretty sensible 

And Derby 2 seasons back

Posted
33 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Wahey! Another one who believes what they read in the media and has no idea of the truth! Never ceases to amaze me how many people think he 'ruins' the clubs he managed!! Here's a few examples to prove you wrong...

Harry bought Glen Johnson for £4m for Pompey, sold him to Liverpool for £17.5m

Harry bought Lassana Diarra for £5.5m for Pompey, sold him to Real Madrid less than a year later for £18.8m

Harry bought Sulley Muntari for £7.1m for Pompey, sold him to Inter Milan two years later for £13.6m

Harry bought Jermain Defoe for £6m for Pompey, he was sold to Spurs for £15.75m

Wasting money or generating huge profits?

Loads on here 'creamed' when we sold JK to Villa with a potential £13m profit....Harry has done that for years, whilst never 'ruining' any club he has managed and whilst never being found guilty of any financial misdemeanours...

 Yeah all that worked out well for them didn't it?

 

Posted
5 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

 Yeah all that worked out well for them didn't it?

 

Nothing to do with Harry - he generated huge profits for Pompey, took them into the Premier League, kept them up and won the FA Cup for them.....sold players for lots more than they were signed for....did a great job....

Posted
1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

"Barely done a thing in the game..." HaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!

"Without proper cash backing he ain't nothing"....he promoted Bournemouth to the second tier for the first time in their history in 1986/87 by winning a division with a tiny budget...

@nickolas your silence is deafening....and what he did with Bournemouth is pretty much the same as what Cotts did with us, winning the third div and promoting us to the second tier...Harry doing this with with Bournemouth is arguably much more impressive given the financial restrictions under which he had to work and the fact Bournemouth had never been up there before...bet you cheered Cotts for winning the third div yet when Harry did it you say  " he ain't nothing" .... double standards!

Posted
2 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Wahey! Another one who believes what they read in the media and has no idea of the truth! Never ceases to amaze me how many people think he 'ruins' the clubs he managed!! Here's a few examples to prove you wrong...

Harry bought Glen Johnson for £4m for Pompey, sold him to Liverpool for £17.5m

Harry bought Lassana Diarra for £5.5m for Pompey, sold him to Real Madrid less than a year later for £18.8m

Harry bought Sulley Muntari for £7.1m for Pompey, sold him to Inter Milan two years later for £13.6m

Harry bought Jermain Defoe for £6m for Pompey, he was sold to Spurs for £15.75m

Wasting money or generating huge profits?

Loads on here 'creamed' when we sold JK to Villa with a potential £13m profit....Harry has done that for years, whilst never 'ruining' any club he has managed and whilst never being found guilty of any financial misdemeanours...

In his second spell at Portsmouth, he spent £45million more than he recouped in transfer fees. 

Posted
1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

@nickolas your silence is deafening....and what he did with Bournemouth is pretty much the same as what Cotts did with us, winning the third div and promoting us to the second tier...Harry doing this with with Bournemouth is arguably much more impressive given the financial restrictions under which he had to work and the fact Bournemouth had never been up there before...bet you cheered Cotts for winning the third div yet when Harry did it you say  " he ain't nothing" .... double standards!

Not deafening at all. I just dont see the 'arry hype. Cotts had a huge budget for L1 standards and bought the cream of L1 to get us up. Not the same budgetary issues at all. 

Hes spends sh1t loads, wages are astronomical for the clubs he's been at in recent past and nie on zero trophies. Very successful. And he talks himself up for England manager. He should fit in nicely with a no-trophies kind of career!

Posted
52 minutes ago, Raging_Robin said:

It annoys me too @BS4 on Tour...

My bosses sister is Harry Redknapp PA so we tend to get involved with Harry Redknapp a lot and sponsor his charity events. We recently sponsored an event he put on for a lad that was terminally ill. Literally spent a few evening with him and you honestly couldn't meet a nicer guy.

People will just read the media and run with it. Fantastic man who does a lot in his spare time for charity. He genuinely loves the game and people tend to forget that he doesn't actually sign the cheques!!! Top bloke.  

 

Isn't his dog who signs the cheques isn't it?

Posted
1 hour ago, Raging_Robin said:

It annoys me too @BS4 on Tour...

My bosses sister is Harry Redknapp PA so we tend to get involved with Harry Redknapp a lot and sponsor his charity events. We recently sponsored an event he put on for a lad that was terminally ill. Literally spent a few evening with him and you honestly couldn't meet a nicer guy.

People will just read the media and run with it. Fantastic man who does a lot in his spare time for charity. He genuinely loves the game and people tend to forget that he doesn't actually sign the cheques!!! Top bloke.  

 

There was that panorma documentary based around him and allardyce about the agent and signing on fees. Allardyce did allude to the fact that there were several other managers in the prem who did the same 'practice'.

Posted
2 hours ago, Selred said:

Isn't his dog who signs the cheques isn't it?

Sounds like a real catch for Dopey Darrell..! 

Posted
14 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Wahey! Another one who believes what they read in the media and has no idea of the truth! Never ceases to amaze me how many people think he 'ruins' the clubs he managed!! Here's a few examples to prove you wrong...

Harry bought Glen Johnson for £4m for Pompey, sold him to Liverpool for £17.5m

Harry bought Lassana Diarra for £5.5m for Pompey, sold him to Real Madrid less than a year later for £18.8m

Harry bought Sulley Muntari for £7.1m for Pompey, sold him to Inter Milan two years later for £13.6m

Harry bought Jermain Defoe for £6m for Pompey, he was sold to Spurs for £15.75m

Wasting money or generating huge profits?

Loads on here 'creamed' when we sold JK to Villa with a potential £13m profit....Harry has done that for years, whilst never 'ruining' any club he has managed and whilst never being found guilty of any financial misdemeanours...

Yes, but why cloud the issue with truth and fact ?

Posted
11 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

In his second spell at Portsmouth, he spent £45million more than he recouped in transfer fees. 

Think you've got that the wrong way round - he spent £68m and sold players for over £100m in his second spell at Pompey...

His transfer dealings are another myth with lots suggesting he ruins clubs and leaves them drained financially...have a look at these stats:

As Bournemouth boss he bought players for £1.12m and sold players for £1.77m

As West Ham boss he bought players for £52m and sold players for £77m

As Pompey boss first time around he bought players for £7.65m and sold players for £5.4m

As Southampton boss he bought players for £2.5m and sold players for £16m

As Pompey boss second time around he bought players for £68m and sold players for £100m

As Spurs boss he bought players for £227m and sold players for £230m

 

 

 

 

Posted
13 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Nothing to do with Harry - he generated huge profits for Pompey, took them into the Premier League, kept them up and won the FA Cup for them.....sold players for lots more than they were signed for....did a great job....

They went into administration and had a transfer embargo put on them shortly after he left. Staff weren't paid.  They subsequently got relegated to the bottom flight and have been bought out by supports.  

Lots of players were hastily sold in a desperate attempt to save the club.

Whatever transfer fees were or weren't made profits on (there are conflicting accounts in this thread) there has not been any mention of players' salaries or whatever else it was that sent the club under.

No doubt the defence will be that it wasn't HR who wrote the cheques. He did however have a professional duty to safeguard the long term future of the club and that was neglected.

The bloke divides opinion to this day between Pompey supporters.  He received the Freedom of the City to a mixed reception.

Posted
56 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Think you've got that the wrong way round - he spent £68m and sold players for over £100m in his second spell at Pompey...

His transfer dealings are another myth with lots suggesting he ruins clubs and leaves them drained financially...have a look at these stats:

As Bournemouth boss he bought players for £1.12m and sold players for £1.77m

As West Ham boss he bought players for £52m and sold players for £77m

As Pompey boss first time around he bought players for £7.65m and sold players for £5.4m

As Southampton boss he bought players for £2.5m and sold players for £16m

As Pompey boss second time around he bought players for £68m and sold players for £100m

As Spurs boss he bought players for £227m and sold players for £230m

 

 

 

 

I will bow to your knowledge then. 

Transfer market suggests differently for his second stint at Portsmouth, although because he didn't see out full seasons in his first & last season, some deals could be attributed to other managers. 

Going into administration after making £32 million on players would seem rather questionable. 

Posted
1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Think you've got that the wrong way round - he spent £68m and sold players for over £100m in his second spell at Pompey...

His transfer dealings are another myth with lots suggesting he ruins clubs and leaves them drained financially...have a look at these stats:

As Bournemouth boss he bought players for £1.12m and sold players for £1.77m

As West Ham boss he bought players for £52m and sold players for £77m

As Pompey boss first time around he bought players for £7.65m and sold players for £5.4m

As Southampton boss he bought players for £2.5m and sold players for £16m

As Pompey boss second time around he bought players for £68m and sold players for £100m

As Spurs boss he bought players for £227m and sold players for £230m

 

 

 

 

The crooked despot !!!    Harry Out :disapointed2se:

Posted
20 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said:

Going into administration after making £32 million on players would seem rather questionable. 

A question to be posed to the clubs owners I would think.

Posted

Why do people blame Redknapp for spending a clubs money?  It's the clubs money not Redknapps, if the club couldn't afford to buy somebody then they should have closed the cheque book, that's not Redknapps problem!  

If a kid asked his mum for pocket money, and she gives him £10 a week, then a few months later the bailiffs come knocking, you can't blame the kid!

Posted
4 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Why do people blame Redknapp for spending a clubs money?  It's the clubs money not Redknapps, if the club couldn't afford to buy somebody then they should have closed the cheque book, that's not Redknapps problem!  

If a kid asked his mum for pocket money, and she gives him £10 a week, then a few months later the bailiffs come knocking, you can't blame the kid!

There are ways of spending money though. 

I'd far rather have LJ, investing SL's money and developing young talent, than Redknapp, splashing big money on big name players, on huge contracts and then jumping ship as soon as the next better offer comes along. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Bar BS3 said:

I will bow to your knowledge then. 

Transfer market suggests differently for his second stint at Portsmouth, although because he didn't see out full seasons in his first & last season, some deals could be attributed to other managers. 

Going into administration after making £32 million on players would seem rather questionable. 

No worries mate, in his second spell at Pompey Harry actually managed to sell our very own Gary O'Neil for £5m...!

Posted
9 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Think you've got that the wrong way round - he spent £68m and sold players for over £100m in his second spell at Pompey...

His transfer dealings are another myth with lots suggesting he ruins clubs and leaves them drained financially...have a look at these stats:

As Bournemouth boss he bought players for £1.12m and sold players for £1.77m

As West Ham boss he bought players for £52m and sold players for £77m

As Pompey boss first time around he bought players for £7.65m and sold players for £5.4m

As Southampton boss he bought players for £2.5m and sold players for £16m

As Pompey boss second time around he bought players for £68m and sold players for £100m

As Spurs boss he bought players for £227m and sold players for £230m

@nickolas @ScottishRed @pongo88 - you all 'liked' triumphed in Bar BS3's erroneous post when he incorrectly stated that Harry spent £45m more than he recouped in his second spell at Pompey...have a look at the post above....just wondering why you  chose to instantly knock an experienced, successful English manager with no knowledge of the facts?!

Posted
10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Think you've got that the wrong way round - he spent £68m and sold players for over £100m in his second spell at Pompey...

His transfer dealings are another myth with lots suggesting he ruins clubs and leaves them drained financially...have a look at these stats:

As Bournemouth boss he bought players for £1.12m and sold players for £1.77m

As West Ham boss he bought players for £52m and sold players for £77m

As Pompey boss first time around he bought players for £7.65m and sold players for £5.4m

As Southampton boss he bought players for £2.5m and sold players for £16m

As Pompey boss second time around he bought players for £68m and sold players for £100m

As Spurs boss he bought players for £227m and sold players for £230m

 

 

 

 

It's not about the transfer fees is it?

Everytime a player is bought and sold,  a number of people make money.  Players get a nice contract, agents a nice fee.  The clear suspicion with Redknapp is that he actively greases the wheel and that his main motivation isn't just to 'get a few new faces in'.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

@nickolas @ScottishRed @pongo88 - you all 'liked' triumphed in Bar BS3's erroneous post when he incorrectly stated that Harry spent £45m more than he recouped in his second spell at Pompey...have a look at the post above....just wondering why you  chose to instantly knock an experienced, successful English manager with no knowledge of the facts?!

Anyone who visits Monaco to open a bank account in the name of his dog and then can’t remember anything about it, and claims “ I write like a two-year-old and I can't spell" deserves a knock. The FA made some crazy decisions in recent years, but avoiding appointing Harry as England manager, when he was favourite for the job, was the right one. Redknapp is the Arthur Daley of the football world, always looking for “a nice little earner”. 

Posted
3 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

@nickolas @ScottishRed @pongo88 - you all 'liked' triumphed in Bar BS3's erroneous post when he incorrectly stated that Harry spent £45m more than he recouped in his second spell at Pompey...have a look at the post above....just wondering why you  chose to instantly knock an experienced, successful English manager with no knowledge of the facts?!

I may have been wrong (read wrong info) about the sums involved in his second stint, but he is certainly not someone I'd want here. 

He needs massive money, he's a short term plan, with contracts that he dishes out and despite not questioning that he's a nice enough bloke, there is something dodgy about him. No smoke without fire etc. 

The success he does bring (sometimes) is usually at a hefty price, that the clubs often can't actually manage. That IS poor ownership, yes. But it's also wreckless management. 

Posted
22 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Why do people blame Redknapp for spending a clubs money?  It's the clubs money not Redknapps, if the club couldn't afford to buy somebody then they should have closed the cheque book, that's not Redknapps problem!  

If a kid asked his mum for pocket money, and she gives him £10 a week, then a few months later the bailiffs come knocking, you can't blame the kid!

A manager has a professional duty to not bankrupt the company they are managing. 

This was neglected in Redknapp's case, he is not entirely responsible but is partially.   It also seems that he is a highly persuasive character.

Posted
52 minutes ago, WTFiGO!?! said:

A manager has a professional duty to not bankrupt the company they are managing. 

This was neglected in Redknapp's case, he is not entirely responsible but is partially.   It also seems that he is a highly persuasive character.

No the owner of the football club has this responsibility, nobody else.  If the manager wants to bring in players on fees and contracts that could potentially bankrupt the club, should things go wrong, then the owner of the club should be doing their due diligence and weighing up the risks, and saying yes or no.  The owners are the custodians and long term investors, managers are very very short term.

Managers will have no loyalty to football clubs or even care about the impact of finances, because they get shown zero loyalty in return when a few games are lost.  If Redknapp is very persuasive and owners fall for it then that's their problem for being weak.

Posted
13 hours ago, pongo88 said:

Anyone who visits Monaco to open a bank account in the name of his dog and then can’t remember anything about it, and claims “ I write like a two-year-old and I can't spell" deserves a knock. The FA made some crazy decisions in recent years, but avoiding appointing Harry as England manager, when he was favourite for the job, was the right one. Redknapp is the Arthur Daley of the football world, always looking for “a nice little earner”. 

That story was embellished a bit....his dog's name was the password for his online account, the account wasn't opened in his dog's name. Milan Mandaric put Harry in touch with his bank manager in Monaco who handled all his business. It wasn't like Harry furtively crept over there to do something wrong. Anyway, he was found not guilty of all financial misdemeanours levelled against him so it isn't relevant anyway.

Posted
29 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

No the owner of the football club has this responsibility, nobody else.  If the manager wants to bring in players on fees and contracts that could potentially bankrupt the club, should things go wrong, then the owner of the club should be doing their due diligence and weighing up the risks, and saying yes or no.  The owners are the custodians and long term investors, managers are very very short term.

Managers will have no loyalty to football clubs or even care about the impact of finances, because they get shown zero loyalty in return when a few games are lost.  If Redknapp is very persuasive and owners fall for it then that's their problem for being weak.

Spot on...Harry has admitted that he had no idea how much his players were earning at Pompey and Spurs - all those negotiations were handled by Milan Mandaric, Peter Storrie and Daniel Levy....if they chose to pay a player an exhorbitant salary then that's up them as owners and MDs of their football clubs...

Posted
On 04/10/2017 at 06:12, Raging_Robin said:

It annoys me too @BS4 on Tour...

My bosses sister is Harry Redknapp PA so we tend to get involved with Harry Redknapp a lot and sponsor his charity events. We recently sponsored an event he put on for a lad that was terminally ill. Literally spent a few evening with him and you honestly couldn't meet a nicer guy.

People will just read the media and run with it. Fantastic man who does a lot in his spare time for charity. He genuinely loves the game and people tend to forget that he doesn't actually sign the cheques!!! Top bloke.  

 

No, his dog does  ;)

To be honest,  this squares with other accounts I've had from people who know Harry or have met him. A nice man.

He's at the Glovers on a temporary basis to impart some managerial advice and look over the squad for Darren Way - and to be honest, he needs all the advice he can get.

This isn't about Yeovil spending money: they haven't got any. Harry knows that. 

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