Bar BS3 Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Following on from the Leeds & Burton threads, which have turned into ticket price/availability discussions, I hope the club have/are making serious plans to maximise sales, should we remain in attractive form. After some, understandable, doubts over how this season might go, we know there was an (impressively low) drop off on ST sales. Well, surely even the most sceptical must be impressed with our start to the season! Reel them and others in with new ST sales. Pro rata from any point, for the remaining games. Add a couple of quid per match to the last sales period price and get them committed. Add the benefit of all season tickets purchased before Jan will get first dibs on ST sales IF, IF, IF we were to get promoted and there is the perfect Christmas present for any City fan! (Apart from existing STH, of course!) Bung in a couple of mates rates deals for any game that might get televised. It's not difficult and it's a massive opportunity to maximise potential support.
wendyredredrobin Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 I agree, we really need to increase ticket sales whilst the going is good and if form continues, most of the half season ticket holders will be first in yhe queue for next season too. I do love to see the ground full.
Bar BS3 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 23 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Pro Rata? - think your getting yourself confused. I don't think I am. Pro-rata - based on the amount of home games left to play at whatever point someone purchases a "pro-rata" season ticket. Can you clarify what it is that I've got confused..?
DKM Len Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, Thatch35 said: Pro Rata? - think your getting yourself confused. I must be as well then cos I understood.
Bristol Rob Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Interesting idea. Although I'd whack on more than a couple of quid a game. Most of us invested our hard earned before we'd made any signings,l and before we knew if this season was going to be another relegation battle. Early days still, granted, but if a Johhny-come-lately want to hang on to the cost tails of those who committed early doors; they can pay a premium (such as not being in the first group for away tickets).
Packman Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Interesting idea. Although I'd whack on more than a couple of quid a game. Most of us invested our hard earned before we'd made any signings,l and before we knew if this season was going to be another relegation battle. Early days still, granted, but if a Johhny-come-lately want to hang on to the cost tails of those who committed early doors; they can pay a premium (such as not being in the first group for away tickets). Surely the club getting more money and the stadium being full is much more important. I got a season ticket when they first came out but if people wanted to buy a ticket now paying a few extra pounds per game then I’d be more than happy. Maybe they could go on the membership window for away tickets as you raise a valid point.
frenchred Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 28 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Interesting idea. Although I'd whack on more than a couple of quid a game. Most of us invested our hard earned before we'd made any signings,l and before we knew if this season was going to be another relegation battle. Early days still, granted, but if a Johhny-come-lately want to hang on to the cost tails of those who committed early doors; they can pay a premium (such as not being in the first group for away tickets). Didn't take long did it! You (and me for that matter) chose to purchase a season ticket when we did, no-one forced us, you (or I) didn't have to buy one! Why should others be penalised just because we paid when we did I for one would rather see the ground full with all supporters rather than 3/4 full of superfans!
Bristol Rob Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, frenchred said: Didn't take long did it! You (and me for that matter) chose to purchase a season ticket when we did, no-one forced us, you (or I) didn't have to buy one! Why should others be penalised just because we paid when we did I for one would rather see the ground full with all supporters rather than 3/4 full of superfans! Not calling anyone a superfan, just pointing out that the early adopters didn't know what they were buying in terms of performance, so if people were able to buy once they know the lay of the land, they can’t expect such favourable terms.
RedM Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 You can look at it the other way. If the club does sell season tickets which are almost the same rate as the initial price why 'early adopt' when you can 'wait and see' ? This surely would be a disaster for the club if a substantial amount of people did this. I think the first sales were around March /April last year ( when we were still struggling with relegation), what if lots of people waited until November/December to put the money into the club, depending on results of course
Bar BS3 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Interesting idea. Although I'd whack on more than a couple of quid a game. Most of us invested our hard earned before we'd made any signings,l and before we knew if this season was going to be another relegation battle. Early days still, granted, but if a Johhny-come-lately want to hang on to the cost tails of those who committed early doors; they can pay a premium (such as not being in the first group for away tickets). Yes, I understand that point of view, although for the good of the club and building the support base, I don't think it should be too hefty a premium. 2/3 quid will/should make it attractive.
frenchred Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, RedM said: You can look at it the other way. If the club does sell season tickets which are almost the same rate as the initial price why 'early adopt' when you can 'wait and see' ? This surely would be a disaster for the club if a substantial amount of people did this. I think the first sales were around March /April last year ( when we were still struggling with relegation), what if lots of people waited until November/December to put the money into the club, depending on results of course Not sure it would be a disaster in all honesty. With the money circulating in football I doubt all the season ticket money covers much in terms of outgoings. We will always sell around a minimum of 8000 so the difference in the big scheme of things is minimal I would assume
Bar BS3 Posted October 12, 2017 Author Posted October 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, RedM said: You can look at it the other way. If the club does sell season tickets which are almost the same rate as the initial price why 'early adopt' when you can 'wait and see' ? This surely would be a disaster for the club if a substantial amount of people did this. I think the first sales were around March /April last year ( when we were still struggling with relegation), what if lots of people waited until November/December to put the money into the club, depending on results of course Can't people always "wait and see" with half season tickets..?
One Team In Keynsham Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Following on from the Leeds & Burton threads, which have turned into ticket price/availability discussions, I hope the club have/are making serious plans to maximise sales, should we remain in attractive form. After some, understandable, doubts over how this season might go, we know there was an (impressively low) drop off on ST sales. Well, surely even the most sceptical must be impressed with our start to the season! Reel them and others in with new ST sales. Pro rata from any point, for the remaining games. Add a couple of quid per match to the last sales period price and get them committed. Add the benefit of all season tickets purchased before Jan will get first dibs on ST sales IF, IF, IF we were to get promoted and there is the perfect Christmas present for any City fan! (Apart from existing STH, of course!) Bung in a couple of mates rates deals for any game that might get televised. It's not difficult and it's a massive opportunity to maximise potential support. I got a pair of half-season STs for my niece and myself in the play-off season: I figured that in the event we did manage to get promotion I would struggle to get hold of a ticket, particularly for away games, on my infrequent trips home. I have kept my ticket on since then, and my niece has renewed after a couple of years. And on the back of my having a ST, other friends have since purchased, and we are now a block of 6 together. So, whilst an isolated case, it shows it can work to bring in fans to the ST fold.
Up The City! Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Haven't we been selling half season tickets since the beginning of time?
RedM Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said: Can't people always "wait and see" with half season tickets..? Yes but it's very much the minority rather than the norm. I was thinking there could be a bigger swing if the incentive for not renewing early wasn't there. I don't think we had half ST's for a few years, were they back last year as they certainly weren't available during the redevelopment. I'm firmly in the pile it high and sell it cheap camp. Sell out every week or close to it, and by sell out I mean the whole of the Lansdown used.
pillred Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 5 hours ago, frenchred said: Not sure it would be a disaster in all honesty. With the money circulating in football I doubt all the season ticket money covers much in terms of outgoings. We will always sell around a minimum of 8000 so the difference in the big scheme of things is minimal I would assume at an average of around £400 pounds each I would beg to differ, an extra 2.500 is a million quid extra, hardly small potatoes.
pillred Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Up The City! said: Haven't we been selling half season tickets since the beginning of time? thought it was normally in December!
bristolcitysweden Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 For once we are doing alright and should take on different ideas to increase crowds. The day we are flying there's no need
TBW Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 Why do so many people want people interested in a ticket half-way through the season to be charged more just for being late-comers? Why does it have to be some sort of elitist situation? When people pre-order something companies don't then raise the price further down the line. Yeah you might get a free gift early on but that's all. We're all fans of one club here and should want to see the ground full. If we're going out and saying "John paid £400 for his ticket at the start of the season, now we're half way through we're not going to offer you a half season ticket at £200 but £250..." people are going to feel like they're not valued so much and maybe not want to renew come the end of the season. Keep everyone on the same level and stop thinking you're better for signing up on day one. Fill the ground and just offer them at the cost everyone has paid already to-date. There doesn't have to be an alterior motive about it. Get people in the gates!
Mad Cyril Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 10 hours ago, pillred said: at an average of around £400 pounds each I would beg to differ, an extra 2.500 is a million quid extra, hardly small potatoes. Can't work that one out...are pay on the day tickets free then? Don't we already take an income from single ticket sales?(Which are priced a lot higher than half season tickets per game). And no we won't get both. Previous seasons with lower capacity/availability have shown match ticket sales fall away when availability is lower.
pillred Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Mad Cyril said: Can't work that one out...are pay on the day tickets free then? Don't we already take an income from single ticket sales?(Which are priced a lot higher than half season tickets per game). And no we won't get both. Previous seasons with lower capacity/availability have shown match ticket sales fall away when availability is lower. I was talking about full season ticket revenue, frenchred said they don't add up to much revenue in the grand scheme, we are averaging 13,000, he said the difference between that and 8,ooo was minimal it's not it's 2 million quid and it is much better for the club to sell half season tickets really because although pay on the day is more profitable they are unlikely to come 11 times.
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2017 Author Posted October 13, 2017 18 hours ago, Robin TBW said: Why do so many people want people interested in a ticket half-way through the season to be charged more just for being late-comers? Why does it have to be some sort of elitist situation? When people pre-order something companies don't then raise the price further down the line. Yeah you might get a free gift early on but that's all. We're all fans of one club here and should want to see the ground full. If we're going out and saying "John paid £400 for his ticket at the start of the season, now we're half way through we're not going to offer you a half season ticket at £200 but £250..." people are going to feel like they're not valued so much and maybe not want to renew come the end of the season. Keep everyone on the same level and stop thinking you're better for signing up on day one. Fill the ground and just offer them at the cost everyone has paid already to-date. There doesn't have to be an alterior motive about it. Get people in the gates! Yes they do. Holidays, cars, houses. Allsorts of major spend items are cheaper the earlier you buy.
TBW Posted October 13, 2017 Posted October 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: Yes they do. Holidays, cars, houses. Allsorts of major spend items are cheaper the earlier you buy. Why do people here have to feel like they're superior though? Why can't everyone just be happy more people want to buy into watching live and in person at the same effective price they paid? Why does it need to be more or rather they not be around?
Bar BS3 Posted October 14, 2017 Author Posted October 14, 2017 10 hours ago, Robin TBW said: Why do people here have to feel like they're superior though? Why can't everyone just be happy more people want to buy into watching live and in person at the same effective price they paid? Why does it need to be more or rather they not be around? I agree, in general. Although I can see why people who buy off the back of "success" should pay a bit more than people who committed regardless.
TBW Posted October 14, 2017 Posted October 14, 2017 5 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: But for some people it isnt a case of waiting to see how the club is doing. I'd have a season ticket if I could afford it, but couldn't. Things may be taking a change for the better soon, which could possibly lead to me being able to afford a half-season ticket. How City are doing in the league has no bearing on my decision. Tough, everyone here with a ST is better than you. Go away part-timer, pay extra or nobody wants you and your excuses.
Ska Junkie Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 So, the 1/2 season ticket prices are out. Seem fairly priced to me. Would anyone like to comment? https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/join-the-journey-with-a-half-season-card/
Topper 123 Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Why should people pay a few quid more per game season ticket holders had first come first choice of seat the half season ticket holders have a choice of what's left so limited choice thus price should be same as start of season only pro rata with NO INCREASE
Monkeh Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 On 14/10/2017 at 20:40, Robin TBW said: Tough, everyone here with a ST is better than you. Go away part-timer, pay extra or nobody wants you and your excuses. I get that from my mates when I miss a game through illness or wife naggingness
Snufflelufagus Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 13:36, Bristol Rob said: Not calling anyone a superfan, just pointing out that the early adopters didn't know what they were buying in terms of performance, so if people were able to buy once they know the lay of the land, they can’t expect such favourable terms. Yes but you got food vouchers for buying early......
Bristol Rob Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Snufflelufagus said: Yes but you got food vouchers for buying early...... Apparently I missed those by 13 minutes.
wendyredredrobin Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Well my first ST was a pair of half year ones which I renewed for the entire next 2 seasons. A half year SC is a great way to bring in more regulars who will hopefully renew next year. The disadvantage for them is just that the best seats have all gone. Why not open the top tier and sell half SC's at say £20 or £21 per game as a special promotional offer and see how it goes or perhaps a fraction more with a promotional gift. Now promotion would be a great gift
Ska Junkie Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Finally given up my 'protest' and renewed. Luckily, my old seat was still available. Watch our season turn to rat crap now!
Bar BS3 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 The club really should be taking advantage of the Man Utd ticket demand and pushing the “buy a half season ticket and get priority on Man Utd tickets” line.
Between heaven and hell Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: The club really should be taking advantage of the Man Utd ticket demand and pushing the “buy a half season ticket and get priority on Man Utd tickets” line. Yes and forget about the people who spent £20 on a membership for priority access as they can't get to every game. Thanks
Spoons Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Between heaven and hell said: Yes and forget about the people who spent £20 on a membership for priority access as they can't get to every game. Thanks Every member and season ticket holder will get a ticket calm down!
reddoc Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I'm ok with this , so long as they promise not to drive. Traffic's a ****ing nightmare already. Only those of us that bought proper STs back in April, or whenever it was, should have this privilege. Not sure about members though , probably should allow existing ones, but not those that signed up yesterday.
Between heaven and hell Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Spoons said: Every member and season ticket holder will get a ticket calm down! Calm down Who do you think you are then ?
Spoons Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Between heaven and hell said: Calm down Who do you think you are then ? I'm spoons . Chill out , you will get a ticket.
Up The City! Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 4 hours ago, reddoc said: I'm ok with this , so long as they promise not to drive. Traffic's a ****ing nightmare already. Only those of us that bought proper STs back in April, or whenever it was, should have this privilege. Not sure about members though , probably should allow existing ones, but not those that signed up yesterday. I signed up for a membership today incase my half ST doesn't cover me, will I be allowed to drive?
pongo88 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I signed up for a membership today incase my half ST doesn't cover me, will I be allowed to drive? I believe there should be a parking radius around the ground that varies with the length of time someone has supported City / has held a season ticket. This would mean that those who can demonstrate long term support should be able to park within a one mile radius of the ground. For others, the distance would increase in half mile increments linked to the degree of demonstrable support. This, vary fair system, would mean that those who only want to watch City play Manchester would have to park in Patchway or Dundry
KeepUpLino Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 6 hours ago, Between heaven and hell said: Yes and forget about the people who spent £20 on a membership for priority access as they can't get to every game. Thanks You think paying £20 should get you priority over a half season ticket holder? Fair shout :s
Guest Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 11 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I signed up for a membership today incase my half ST doesn't cover me, will I be allowed to drive? Fair play Sport, that's not far off being as class a fan as a full season ticket holder.
reddoc Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 15 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I signed up for a membership today incase my half ST doesn't cover me, will I be allowed to drive? Highly unlikely, but let me know what time you leave and details of your route and I'll come to a decision.
Between heaven and hell Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 25 minutes ago, 'keepuplino' said: You think paying £20 should get you priority over a half season ticket holder? Fair shout :s I was under the impression that the half season ticket doesn't start until the 26/12 Reading game
Up The City! Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, reddoc said: Highly unlikely, but let me know what time you leave and details of your route and I'll come to a decision. I'm planning on making a day of it. So will travel down the M5 South and then through Leigh woods, park near the ground, buy a pizza and then a few beers then maybe a burger and then many more beers. However I've just realised I'll be over the limit so may have to find alternative transport.
54-46 Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: The club really should be taking advantage of the Man Utd ticket demand and pushing the “buy a half season ticket and get priority on Man Utd tickets” line. Agreed. Put the Man U tickets for sale the day after 1/2 season ticket sales end
reddoc Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I'm planning on making a day of it. So will travel down the M5 South and then through Leigh woods, park near the ground, buy a pizza and then a few beers then maybe a burger and then many more beers. However I've just realised I'll be over the limit so may have to find alternative transport. Want a lift? Re the parking, best have a word with Pongo for future reference. Near the ground sounds a little optimistic.
Bar BS3 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Between heaven and hell said: Yes and forget about the people who spent £20 on a membership for priority access as they can't get to every game. Thanks It wouldn’t effect them.
Bar BS3 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, 54-46 said: Agreed. Put the Man U tickets for sale the day after 1/2 season ticket sales end No need. Just say that people who purchase one before the Utd tickets go on sale, get the associated ticket priority.
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