Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Wow that is an interesting one. Might tune in for that.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I suspect he is doing it from a phone line to another country. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to be in the studio, where he could end up fronted by a few people, including our manager who has 48,000 reasons to despise him.
... Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, palmerred said: I suspect he is doing it from a phone line to another country. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to be in the studio, where he could end up fronted by a few people, including our manager who has 48,000 reasons to despise him. Ooooooooooo. A grudge? tfj
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Just now, Taxi for Johnson said: Ooooooooooo. A grudge? tfj Not me personally, but LJ was one of many who lost money in his scheme.
... Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, palmerred said: Not me personally, but LJ was one of many who lost money in his scheme. No - I meant LJ - I know you are not grudgie. tfj
Private Cider(cider army) Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Currently promoting a book.....
Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 33 minutes ago, palmerred said: I suspect he is doing it from a phone line to another country. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to be in the studio, where he could end up fronted by a few people, including our manager who has 48,000 reasons to despise him. Ouch that's a lot of money - even back in 2007/2008 or whenever that would've been. I can't imagine Johnson was on that much per week when he was here.
Port Said Red Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 55 minutes ago, palmerred said: I suspect he is doing it from a phone line to another country. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't want to be in the studio, where he could end up fronted by a few people, including our manager who has 48,000 reasons to despise him. That's been the first time I have heard that said so directly. The reports say a championship manager, like it's withheld information.
Major Isewater Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: That's been the first time I have heard that said so directly. The reports say a championship manager, like it's withheld information. LJ is not a Championship manager though . Poor journalism or , perhaps, somebody else ?
Major Isewater Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, David Brent said: Looking forward to this
sephjnr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I'd also be interested in this. Thoroughly a good guy on the field and wanted to play at his best, if his ego hadn't lost to Gary's then he may have been here a lot longer, which would have made his scheme all the more a horrifying reveal.
BS15_RED Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, sephjnr said: I'd also be interested in this. Thoroughly a good guy on the field and wanted to play at his best, if his ego hadn't lost to Gary's then he may have been here a lot longer, which would have made his scheme all the more a horrifying reveal. Whatever was the case for McIndoe leaving, I’m sure that if he hadn’t gone GJ would of kept his job longer. That season after he left we were so narrow and unimaginative, relying on Nicky Maynard to score worldies to win us games. McIndoe was a massive part of us having two very good championship seasons before he left.
The Nest Egg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 I hope he brings a few bottles of his snake oil with him- apparently it cures every known disease in existence! All for the low, low price of £48000 and your first born son. Don't forget to tell your friends- especially the rich, gullible ones!
sephjnr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, BS15_RED said: Whatever was the case for McIndoe leaving, I’m sure that if he hadn’t gone GJ would of kept his job longer. That season after he left we were so narrow and unimaginative, relying on Nicky Maynard to score worldies to win us games. McIndoe was a massive part of us having two very good championship seasons before he left. And then the skiing holiday happened, and the rest is brutal history.
sephjnr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Newquay-Red said: I hope he brings a few bottles of his snake oil with him- apparently it cures every known disease in existence! All for the low, low price of £48000 and your first born son. Don't forget to tell your friends- especially the rich, gullible ones! The very reason Nicky would have not to buy in - he'd have to drive to Bristol to pick him up.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: That's been the first time I have heard that said so directly. The reports say a championship manager, like it's withheld information. Lee Johnson lost £48,000 and was part of the bankruptcy petition which is available publicly if anyone wishes to download it. Two players from our former squad also lost money but not my place to say who and what as that info is not in the public domain.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, sephjnr said: And then the skiing holiday happened, and the rest is brutal history. McIndoe started his scheme whilst he was at Coventry, him and Lee were good pals. His scheme was nothing to do with him leaving City.
Lrrr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 5 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: Ouch that's a lot of money - even back in 2007/2008 or whenever that would've been. I can't imagine Johnson was on that much per week when he was here. I don't see why LJ would have been involved, he was making a lot through property renovation and selling on for good profit. He was buying properties for higher hundreds of thousands with us and selling for over a million.
Vincent Vega Posted October 16, 2017 Author Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, hodge said: I don't see why LJ would have been involved, he was making a lot through property renovation and selling on for good profit. He was buying properties for higher hundreds of thousands with us and selling for over a million. Greed mainly. Isn't that Why they all bought into it ?
Bristol Rob Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 Forgot it was on. Anything interesting come up?
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 It's on now. He's basically trying to blame someone called Mr G !
Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Forgot it was on. Anything interesting come up? He sounds incredibly shifty - just talking about what happened
Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, hodge said: I don't see why LJ would have been involved, he was making a lot through property renovation and selling on for good profit. He was buying properties for higher hundreds of thousands with us and selling for over a million. Because he's obviously got a business instinct. Considering he was friends with McIndoe I'd say it's pretty likely.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 He's a grade 1 liar. I can't say much, but I 100% know he has lied. One of the people who he says never had a penny off, definitely did as it's someone I know, he is also one of the few who has worked with the police. The CPS are actually going over the files at present, a decision to charge or not, has not been reached yet. He's spouting absolute nonsense. I'm sure a few of his so called "investors" will be fascinated by his claims today.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, palmerred said: He's a grade 1 liar. I can't say much, but I 100% know he has lied. One of the people who he says never had a penny off, definitely did as it's someone I know, he is also one of the few who has worked with the police. The CPS are actually going over the files at present, a decision to charge or not, has not been reached yet. He's spouting absolute nonsense. I'm sure a few of his so called "investors" will be fascinated by his claims today. He does sound like he's lying - incredibly stressed and intense.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: He does sound like he's lying - incredibly stressed and intense. I like how he mentions Lee as a mate. I would love to see him pop to the gate for an interview and see just how pally Lee is to him.
Phileas Fogg Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, palmerred said: I like how he mentions Lee as a mate. I would love to see him pop to the gate for an interview and see just how pally Lee is to him. Well he laid down the gauntlet didn’t he. ‘I’ll never shy away from meeting anyone who wants to in person’ Maybe Lee should take him up on that.. perhaps he should bring Aden, Nathan Baker, Famara and Jamie Mac with him too!
Bristol Rob Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well he laid down the gauntlet didn’t he. ‘I’ll never shy away from meeting anyone who wants to in person’ Maybe Lee should take him up on that.. perhaps he should bring Aden, Nathan Baker, Famara and Jamie Mac with him too! They need a keeper as well if they want a 5 a side team.
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Well he laid down the gauntlet didn’t he. ‘I’ll never shy away from meeting anyone who wants to in person’ Maybe Lee should take him up on that.. perhaps he should bring Aden, Nathan Baker, Famara and Jamie Mac with him too! If he truly had nothing to hide, he would have gone to the studio to meet Geoff and do the interview live. Not by a phone link earlier in the afternoon. I suspect he is still living out in Spain. Hiding from those who would like to meet him and I know there are a few. I like how he said his family still support him, the same family that he reportedly sold their houses behind their backs. (On the bankruptcy report) . If his family were so supportive why not live in Scotland, instead of Spain? Wants to get back into football, I think we all know, no club would touch him with a barge-pole. It's okay saying he'll happily meet people, but no one knows his address or phone number, sort of makes that difficult!
sephjnr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, palmerred said: McIndoe started his scheme whilst he was at Coventry, him and Lee were good pals. His scheme was nothing to do with him leaving City. I was referring to Maynard's injury and complete fall-off in form
Major Isewater Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 57 minutes ago, palmerred said: It's on now. He's basically trying to blame someone called Mr G ! G short for Gas !
RumRed Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, palmerred said: It's on now. He's basically trying to blame someone called Mr G !
View from the Dolman Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, palmerred said: Lee Johnson lost £48,000 and was part of the bankruptcy petition which is available publicly if anyone wishes to download it. Where would anyone find this...?
palmerred Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 All bankruptcy orders and reports can be obtained by buying them off the London Gazette or the Law Pages Insolvency section.
Vincent Vega Posted October 16, 2017 Author Posted October 16, 2017 40 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Where would anyone find this...? https://www.gov.uk/search-bankruptcy-insolvency-register
Lrrr Posted October 16, 2017 Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: They need a keeper as well if they want a 5 a side team. LJ's about the height of a 5 a side goal
Admin Phantom Posted October 17, 2017 Admin Posted October 17, 2017 Interesting people are assuming it is LJ that is the current Manager that was affected, I always believed it was someone who was at Wolves and now looks after some tractors
Taz Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, phantom said: Interesting people are assuming it is LJ that is the current Manager that was affected, I always believed it was someone who was at Wolves and now looks after some tractors Technically @phantom, LJ isn't a manager though... A lot that has been posted recently on the subject would also suggest the same person. What would be funny though is if the police were sat in the studio tracing the call whilst he was trying to shift the blame onto Mr G....
View from the Dolman Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Taz said: What would be funny though is if the police were sat in the studio tracing the call whilst he was trying to shift the blame onto Mr G.... Michael McIndoe was in the studio with Geoff. It was pre-recorded in the afternoon. The date and time are visible on the screen here:
UK0wnag3 Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 14 hours ago, kiwicolin said: Just bought his book on Amazon Still not convinced this isn't his second attempt at this; Buy the book, enjoy it. Before you know it you're buying 3 books, getting money back for 4, buying 2 more books for friends....
Red-Robbo Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 A good conman always has a plausible story.
Bris Red Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 Greedy footballers get done over in another shit scam shocker..! no sympathy for any of these schemes man. Making top dollar playing football yet still want more.. fair enough investing in property or what not but to trust somebody like Mcindoe with thousands you have got to be a bit simple IMO.
Taz Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said: Michael McIndoe was in the studio with Geoff. It was pre-recorded in the afternoon. The date and time are visible on the screen here: Fair enough, read something yesterday saying it was a phone interview. Just proves you can't believe everything you read on here doesn't it
Guest Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, phantom said: Interesting people are assuming it is LJ that is the current Manager that was affected, I always believed it was someone who was at Wolves and now looks after some tractors I think it was stated above that it was detailed in the bankruptcy petition. Would be interesting to see the files if available..
Admin Phantom Posted October 17, 2017 Admin Posted October 17, 2017 17 hours ago, palmerred said: Lee Johnson lost £48,000 and was part of the bankruptcy petition which is available publicly if anyone wishes to download it. Two players from our former squad also lost money but not my place to say who and what as that info is not in the public domain. Where can we get this @palmerred ?
Bristol Rob Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, phantom said: Where can we get this @palmerred ?
View from the Dolman Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, phantom said: Where can we get this @palmerred ? I couldn't find the petition but I did find a couple of entries in the London Gazette. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2219568 https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2226946 Not a bad address in Knightsbridge: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/house-prices/detailMatching.html/svr/3110;jsessionid=73713BC9849A540A22C47DCA18E71743?prop=42246296&sale=79303611&country=england
WRERE Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 There's an article here which states they've seen the records and have named some of the players and managers invovled, and LJ is on there for 48k. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/06/23/partys-over-for-playboy-former-wolves-star-michael-mcindoe/
Guest RegC Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, WRERE said: There's an article here which states they've seen the records and have named some of the players and managers invovled, and LJ is on there for 48k. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/06/23/partys-over-for-playboy-former-wolves-star-michael-mcindoe/ Baldock in for £90k too. I guess the old saying is pertinent here - if it seems to good to be true, it probably is
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, WRERE said: There's an article here which states they've seen the records and have named some of the players and managers invovled, and LJ is on there for 48k. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/06/23/partys-over-for-playboy-former-wolves-star-michael-mcindoe/ Matt Murray lost £1.6m! Ouch!
Admin Phantom Posted October 17, 2017 Admin Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, WRERE said: There's an article here which states they've seen the records and have named some of the players and managers invovled, and LJ is on there for 48k. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/06/23/partys-over-for-playboy-former-wolves-star-michael-mcindoe/ Assumedly none of this was brought up on the radio programme?
CyderInACan Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Matt Murray lost £1.6m! Ouch! That covered the bar bill for an afternoon session at Linekers then!
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: That covered the bar bill for an afternoon session at Linekers then! Imagine that. Losing a whole four and a quarter Tilsons in a scam.
pride of the west Posted October 17, 2017 Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, phantom said: Assumedly none of this was brought up on the radio programme? He got in early and rubbished all the newspaper articles, of which he said there were 100 of, as they didn't quote a source. He also said he had never smoked but there's photos of him with a fat Cuban in his hands in a lot of the articles. The guy is an outright lier and he talks as though he's drilled himself to believe he has done no wrong.
Big Red Rich Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 Ive bought the book, reading it this weekend. Will report back...
Fiale Posted October 18, 2017 Posted October 18, 2017 He is deluded. He said he wanted to get back into football as a player or manager and that he keeps himself fit and in shape. His main worry is "is it to late to win some major trophies" when asked if he though he was hireable he said he had not been charged with anything, and convicted criminals have got back into the game, so why shouldn't he ! Would you trust him with your clubs purse strings or tfr dealings ?
RedM Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 18 hours ago, Fiale said: He is deluded. He said he wanted to get back into football as a player or manager and that he keeps himself fit and in shape. His main worry is "is it to late to win some major trophies" when asked if he though he was hireable he said he had not been charged with anything, and convicted criminals have got back into the game, so why shouldn't he ! Would you trust him with your clubs purse strings or tfr dealings ? Compared to a lot of work it's highly paid though isn't it and I guess he sees it as easy money as he's always found a team to take him. Not sure he will be welcomed with open arms by anyone now though, not at the pay level he is hoping for anyway. I do think though regular employment would make himself a sitting target for those he owes money to, I don't think he would be that stupid to leave himself that vulnerable
Leveller Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, RedM said: Compared to a lot of work it's highly paid though isn't it and I guess he sees it as easy money as he's always found a team to take him. Not sure he will be welcomed with open arms by anyone now though, not at the pay level he is hoping for anyway. I do think though regular employment would make himself a sitting target for those he owes money to, I don't think he would be that stupid to leave himself that vulnerable No it wouldn't - not if he was made bankrupt. The whole point of that is to wipe the slate clean.
RedM Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Leveller said: No it wouldn't - not if he was made bankrupt. The whole point of that is to wipe the slate clean. I meant to people who would take the law into their own hands, or have someone do it for them. They wouldn't care if he had a clean slate or not, I'm surprised no one has got to him before.
Leveller Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, RedM said: I meant to people who would take the law into their own hands, or have someone do it for them. They wouldn't care if he had a clean slate or not, I'm surprised no one has got to him before. If they were going for physical revenge, I don't see that him suddenly earning a living would make much difference?
RedM Posted October 19, 2017 Posted October 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Leveller said: If they were going for physical revenge, I don't see that him suddenly earning a living would make much difference? I was thinking that his movements would be more predictable, they would know where to find him. Not so easy to hide when your team has a fixture, training etc is it?
Inactive user Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 A lot of folks seem keen to hang the guy and brand him a liar without knowing the full facts. Worth remembering that there were plenty of fools eager to part with their money because of greed.
CotswoldRed Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: A lot of folks seem keen to hang the guy and brand him a liar without knowing the full facts. Worth remembering that there were plenty of fools eager to part with their money because of greed. This is true. What doesn't help his public persona is he was trying to make money from a nightclub venture. To most that doesn't come across as trying to make an honest living.
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