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Marvin Rees plans to knock down Cumberland Basin and rename it ‘Western Harbour’

He wants to demolish Plimsoll Swing Bridge and build a new crossing closer to the Suspension Bridge

The “ugly road network” across the Cumberland Basin is to be knocked down and turned in to a housing development called ‘Western Harbour’, Bristol Mayor, Marvin Rees has announced.

The shock scheme was revealed during Mr Rees’ ‘State of the City Address’ on Wednesday, October 18 (you can read it in full here) which laid out the Bristol Mayor’s vision for the future of the city.

The 45-year-old set out his plan while discussing Bristol’s continuing struggle with housing stock.

While there was little detail, it appears Mr Rees has a self-confessed “ambition plan” to tear down the Brunel Way road network and Plimsoll Swing Bridge.

In its place he hopes to develop housing on the west of Spike Island and on “both sides of the Avon”. He did not elaborate on where this land might be, but it is possible homes might be built at the top end of Greville Smyth Park and on the allotments which sit under Brunel Way.

To ensure traffic can still travel between the western and northern parts of the city, the Bristol Mayor is proposing to build a new road crossing to replace the swing bridge further up river and closer to the Suspension Bridge.

He hinted the whole development may be renamed 'Western Harbour'.

Mr Rees said: “We are putting together a proposal that will tear down the old, ugly road network across the western end of the harbour, build a new bridge across the river at a lower point and develop the available land on both sides of the Avon, bringing more affordable housing to the city centre, extending the harbour as a residential area to the west.

“We may even rename the Cumberland Basin, the Western Harbour. I hope to unveil these plans soon.”

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6 minutes ago, phantom said:

Marvin Rees plans to knock down Cumberland Basin and rename it ‘Western Harbour’

He wants to demolish Plimsoll Swing Bridge and build a new crossing closer to the Suspension Bridge

The “ugly road network” across the Cumberland Basin is to be knocked down and turned in to a housing development called ‘Western Harbour’, Bristol Mayor, Marvin Rees has announced.

The shock scheme was revealed during Mr Rees’ ‘State of the City Address’ on Wednesday, October 18 (you can read it in full here) which laid out the Bristol Mayor’s vision for the future of the city.

The 45-year-old set out his plan while discussing Bristol’s continuing struggle with housing stock.

While there was little detail, it appears Mr Rees has a self-confessed “ambition plan” to tear down the Brunel Way road network and Plimsoll Swing Bridge.

In its place he hopes to develop housing on the west of Spike Island and on “both sides of the Avon”. He did not elaborate on where this land might be, but it is possible homes might be built at the top end of Greville Smyth Park and on the allotments which sit under Brunel Way.

To ensure traffic can still travel between the western and northern parts of the city, the Bristol Mayor is proposing to build a new road crossing to replace the swing bridge further up river and closer to the Suspension Bridge.

He hinted the whole development may be renamed 'Western Harbour'.

Mr Rees said: “We are putting together a proposal that will tear down the old, ugly road network across the western end of the harbour, build a new bridge across the river at a lower point and develop the available land on both sides of the Avon, bringing more affordable housing to the city centre, extending the harbour as a residential area to the west.

“We may even rename the Cumberland Basin, the Western Harbour. I hope to unveil these plans soon.”

The spent nearly 5 years strengthening the walls of the Cumberland Basin to stop them crumbling into the harbour, This was partly because of the weight of housing and roads. Now he wants to build more? It might be an ambition but I don't think it will turn out to be feasible.  

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5 minutes ago, phantom said:

bringing more affordable housing to the city centre, extending the harbour as a residential area to the west.

Yeah, absolutely, because building homes in a harbour side development is bound to be affordable isn't it?? How much do they go for these days ?? Just a quick look on right move and I've found a 2 bed apartment for £500,000 and a 3 Bed for close to 1 Million. 

:facepalm:

Posted

Haven't they just spent a fortune on the Metrobust system joining from along the river, along cumberland rd passing spike island and over Winterstoke Rd joining this flyover. Where would all the Portway traffic and A370 weston super mare go.

Posted

The man is a complete and utter fraud. In his self-congratulatory "100 Achievements" released this week he listed one as "inviting kids to play chess in City Hall". 

Absolute clown. 

Posted

Shocking idea…I shared it on FB then did wonder if it was a joke/fake news! WTF is he on?

I was looking at photos of CB before the road system was built, it did look lovely…but that view when you come round the corner from Bower Ashton to Hotwells, is one of the best in the world (IMO). How dare he ruin it! :protest:

 

Posted
1 minute ago, Southstandoriginal said:

Western Harbour? How colourful that sounds!  Beware of people who try to re-write our history. 

What a rubbish name! 

Posted

Expect the fake sheik to ask Marvin to build some of the affordable (if you have a spare £1m) housing around the outside of land donated by the council to a new football stadium project.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

Bet everyone's really glad they voted for a Mayor now. 

I'm just glad I didn't vote for this clown.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

Bet everyone's really glad they voted for a Mayor now. 

Is there something in the water…? Bristol Water has always been privately owned :w00t:

Posted
26 minutes ago, phantom said:

Marvin Rees plans to knock down Cumberland Basin and rename it ‘Western Harbour’

He wants to demolish Plimsoll Swing Bridge and build a new crossing closer to the Suspension Bridge

The “ugly road network” across the Cumberland Basin is to be knocked down and turned in to a housing development called ‘Western Harbour’, Bristol Mayor, Marvin Rees has announced.

The shock scheme was revealed during Mr Rees’ ‘State of the City Address’ on Wednesday, October 18 (you can read it in full here) which laid out the Bristol Mayor’s vision for the future of the city.

The 45-year-old set out his plan while discussing Bristol’s continuing struggle with housing stock.

While there was little detail, it appears Mr Rees has a self-confessed “ambition plan” to tear down the Brunel Way road network and Plimsoll Swing Bridge.

In its place he hopes to develop housing on the west of Spike Island and on “both sides of the Avon”. He did not elaborate on where this land might be, but it is possible homes might be built at the top end of Greville Smyth Park and on the allotments which sit under Brunel Way.

To ensure traffic can still travel between the western and northern parts of the city, the Bristol Mayor is proposing to build a new road crossing to replace the swing bridge further up river and closer to the Suspension Bridge.

He hinted the whole development may be renamed 'Western Harbour'.

Mr Rees said: “We are putting together a proposal that will tear down the old, ugly road network across the western end of the harbour, build a new bridge across the river at a lower point and develop the available land on both sides of the Avon, bringing more affordable housing to the city centre, extending the harbour as a residential area to the west.

“We may even rename the Cumberland Basin, the Western Harbour. I hope to unveil these plans soon.”

In other words, he's dreaming.

This comes down to 'other people's money'. If he can't get it, then it's down to PFI.

I've seen the 'tram system', the 'Bristol Arena' (a debacle in the making), our own 'Ashton Vale Stadium', 'the blue few plans' etc. A litany of disasters.
We probably have the best professional complainers in the country.
Let's be honest, Bristol City Council (supposedly the people with their fingers on the purse strings) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
Etc.
There are no real leaders.

I'd like to see good change in Bristol.
The changes that I've actually seen have been based on politics and not for the good of the City (this is subjective).

As a City, we are physically large, but due to political incompetence, small minded.
While this continues, we'll always be a backwater.

Posted
32 minutes ago, Super said:

The guy is more clueless than George and that's saying something.

Yup, and we thought RedTrousers was bonkers. So I guess the Arena is long forgotten as it was George's project and this is his was of leaving his mark on the city?

Posted

This is the bloke who wants to build an underground in a city with an area called the 'floating harbour'. He's an idiot so I wouldn't worry too much about any of his plans getting any further than pipe dreams.

Luckily, I don't live in the 'city' so didn't vote for the berk! 

Posted

If this was planned well and the bridge and connections built before they closed the old routes and started the housing, it could actually improve traffic flow - particularly if the new bridge didn't need to swing.

However this is Bristol so expect chaos and gridlock... 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Red34 said:

If this was planned well and the bridge and connections built before they closed the old routes and started the housing, it could actually improve traffic flow - particularly if the new bridge didn't need to swing.

However this is Bristol so expect chaos and gridlock... 

How high is it going to be? :ermm:

I do think the road system could be redesigned in some way around Spike Island/Nova Scotia but as a whole the area is quite nice. Building flats would be a dreadful idea.

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44 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

The man is a complete and utter fraud. In his self-congratulatory "100 Achievements" released this week he listed one as "inviting kids to play chess in City Hall". 

Absolute clown. 

That list was golden.

50. Celebrated child minders in Bristol.

WTF? 

Posted

A pipe dream that will never happen. Will spend millions of taxpayers money on feasibility studies that will keep council workers employed for years and have dozens of meetings where the dreamers will concoct even more plans. Total waste of resources just to make the mayor look like he's doing something.  Spend the money sorting out the existing road network and traffic chaos.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

It'll be fine. We'll all be using the newly built underground train network by then.

See The Post for further nonsense.

Don't forget your armbands Rob! ;)

Posted
48 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

The man is a complete and utter fraud. In his self-congratulatory "100 Achievements" released this week he listed one as "inviting kids to play chess in City Hall". 

Absolute clown. 

what the cownsaw owse?

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

Don't forget your armbands Rob! ;)

I won't!

Imagine how many stairs you'll have to walk down to get a train from the triangle down to the Portway!

Be easier if they spent the cash on a gurt big slider.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Malago said:

Is Western Harbour going to be connected to the City's new subway network?

What do you think Malago? ;)

No doubt it will go past the new methane dome stadium in its way to Narnia and the Bristol 'pie in the sky' arena! :cool:

Posted
1 hour ago, CyderInACan said:

The man is a complete and utter fraud. In his self-congratulatory "100 Achievements" released this week he listed one as "inviting kids to play chess in City Hall". 

Absolute clown. 

He likes kids playing with his bishop?

Posted
1 hour ago, TwoSheds said:

I liked the comment from the Evil Post maybe Marvin has just found out Mr. Cumberland was a slave trader

I'm actually surprised he isn't proposing to fill in the whole harbour to hide our maritime and merchant past!

Posted

He is an absolutely useless fraud (and I say that as a regular Labour voter who voted for Red Trousers at the mayoral election).  He has a "vision" for the Cumberland Basin and yet he can't deliver a much needed arena that George had got through planning, and was basically ready to be built.  The Arena was put back from 2018 to 2019 within weeks of him becoming Mayor last year, and then put back to 2020 as soon as 2017 arrived.  Its farcical that Bristol does not have an arena, and that the good people of Bristol have to travel to places to Cardiff, Brum and even Bournemouth to see Arena shows , as well as costing the local economy something like £80,000 a week.  He reckoned that the previous contractor was too expensive, so he's having a best value review.  Of course, it will be much cheaper to build it 3 or 4 years down the line!:grr:

Another gem was him taking credit for the Prince Street Bridge being re-opened, following "delays from the previous (Red Trousers) administration".  What he didn't say was that it was delayed for longer under his regime than George's.  Not that bridge repairing is something that  any normal person would see as a mayoral issue anyway!

His other "vision" is to get power boat racing back in Bristol Docks, yes I'm sure we would all prefer to see fatal crashes in the docks than the Strictly or X-Factor tours (probably not great examples! - how about the Manics or Beyoncé?)  in a 12,000 state of the art concert arena .

Just a thought, there was talk about SL overseeing  an arena in Ashton Vale, does he still own that land?

Posted
11 minutes ago, zippycar said:

liked the comment from the Evil Post maybe Marvin has just found out Mr. Cumberland was a slave trader

I'm actually surprised he isn't proposing to fill in the whole harbour to hide our maritime and merchant past!

And I always thought he was a sausage merchant.

Posted
30 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

What do you think Malago? ;)

No doubt it will go past the new methane dome stadium in its way to Narnia and the Bristol 'pie in the sky' arena! :cool:

Last stop: UWE Stadium...

Posted

Better not laugh too much Marvin could buy our new Ashton Gate Stadium under compulsory purchase and then build another few Nelson Mandela tower blocks on the site.

Posted

Affordable housing!!? Yeah alright then. What is it with the people who get into power in Bristol, first Red Trousers, and now this berk.

I say that John from Stockwood, the bloke who's been working on the bins for 20+ years gets voted in. A man of the people, for the people.

I just won't be voting for him as I don't live in Bristol :P

Posted

If he does try and go ahead by the time he's voted out at the next election it won't have got beyond the planning stage and the next mayor will scrap it the same way as he's done with the Arena 

Posted
14 minutes ago, New Dazzler said:

Here is the list of our hapless Mayor's achievements

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-mayor-marvin-rees-publishes-640182 

Can anyone pick one that is actually an achievement worthy of the Mayor of Bristol and, at a rough guess, I would say that he had zero input into at least 95% of these wonderful things.

Crikey, there's some waffle on there without addressing ONE of the city's actual major issues. Transport for one thing, reopening a bridge after works were due to finish is hardly an achievement. 'Ban the box' and 'taxi cops' WTF? :blink:

Posted

What a manual manipulator. Just like the cock before him and the leader of his national party - come to think of it, they’re all the same.

What is it that those who think they can enjoy destroying the heritage of the city?

Colston Hall is another fine example. And the Council House.

Hang on. I’ve an idea. Let’s go whole hog Marv. Replace the Portway with a cycle lane or electric cars only. Whilst we’re at it let’s replace the Suspension Bridge with something futuristic.

Too many want to make their mark by ******* things up. And they’re everywhere - even here in Frome you can’t escape the wannabe liberal elite :blink:

 

Posted

Marvin can't even retain a Chief Executive at the council in real life (3 down now during his tenure now, I believe?), but he sure is good at pulling bullshit, pie in the sky schemes out of his arse.

As @New Dazzler rightly says the guy is a total fraud. A party gonk with absolutely no experience of the real world, promoted so far above his pay grade he has a nosebleed.

Posted

It's a pity we know longer got our Bristol Castle, stick them in the dungeon with the rest of the councillors. Don't they realise more houses they build more congestion and more pollution. 

Posted
1 hour ago, New Dazzler said:

Here is the list of our hapless Mayor's achievements

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-mayor-marvin-rees-publishes-640182 

Can anyone pick one that is actually an achievement worthy of the Mayor of Bristol and, at a rough guess, I would say that he had zero input into at least 95% of these wonderful things.

It reads like a kid’s homework of “what I done over the summer holidays” not the achievements of the executive mayor of the largest city in the south of England outside of London. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, wendyredredrobin said:

And I always thought he was a sausage merchant.

Just out interest.

"Cumberland Basin was created as an important part of the floating harbour, which was constructed between 1804 and 1809. The basin was named after the Duke of Cumberland, who visited Bristol in 1803 during the Napoleonic invasion scare and became a freeman of the city.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Just out interest.

"Cumberland Basin was created as an important part of the floating harbour, which was constructed between 1804 and 1809. The basin was named after the Duke of Cumberland, who visited Bristol in 1803 during the Napoleonic invasion scare and became a freeman of the city.

Maybe we should rename it the Luke basin, as he too was a Freeman.

Posted

What happened to that plan to dam it further up to lock all the water in? Be good that, like Amsterdam but with less of the mellowness and hallucinations.

Posted
3 hours ago, bcfcfinker said:

In other words, he's dreaming.

This comes down to 'other people's money'. If he can't get it, then it's down to PFI.

I've seen the 'tram system', the 'Bristol Arena' (a debacle in the making), our own 'Ashton Vale Stadium', 'the blue few plans' etc. A litany of disasters.
We probably have the best professional complainers in the country.
Let's be honest, Bristol City Council (supposedly the people with their fingers on the purse strings) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
Etc.
There are no real leaders.

I'd like to see good change in Bristol.
The changes that I've actually seen have been based on politics and not for the good of the City (this is subjective).

As a City, we are physically large, but due to political incompetence, small minded.
While this continues, we'll always be a backwater.

Bristol is only a backwater when it boils down to sport, football in particular.

This is coming from a man who shares his time in Manchester (Landlord, so I talk to the youngsters ;-] ), a hick town in West Yorkshire and Leeds.
Bristol only lacks a premier league football team ahhhhummmm and a tram/trolley bus, people up here have only complimentary things to say about the city. From the outside looking in Bristol has a lot going for it and is very much on the pulse, the mayor is a complete tool and has NO chance of getting even half of that built.

Posted
50 minutes ago, YorkshireSection said:

Bristol is only a backwater when it boils down to sport, football in particular.

This is coming from a man who shares his time in Manchester (Landlord, so I talk to the youngsters ;-] ), a hick town in West Yorkshire and Leeds.
Bristol only lacks a premier league football team ahhhhummmm and a tram/trolley bus, people up here have only complimentary things to say about the city. From the outside looking in Bristol has a lot going for it and is very much on the pulse, the mayor is a complete tool and has NO chance of getting even half of that built.

Is Bristol being a sporting backwater not a reflection of the city itself?

Posted

For the record, I like Marvin Rees. He seems like a nice guy, and he wants to get things done properly. 

With that being said, his two big pushes so far are to tear down the Cumberland Basin and to build an Underground system in Bristol on the cheap. Both in theory are great, but they're both extremely expensive, and in a city that can't build an arena, and will happily blow hundreds of millions on a fancy bus lane I think he's woefully underestimated the state of bureaucracy in this city.

I mean, for ***** sake, the M32 has been the speed of a small country lane for the better part of two years now, maybe longer. If we can't fix a motorway in that time, how will we do any of this?

His first act as Mayor should be to charge any building firm for the MetroBus, the Temple Meads work, and the M32 for disruption by the hour. They did this in London a while back, and it cut building times/costs by half. Once all of this crap is done, then he can dream big.

Posted

Am I right in thinking that at the net "Mayoral election", there will be a choice to do away with the post altogether?  Or is that just wishful thinking? What a tosser.  Arena, tram, underground, western harbour....Oh dear:facepalm::facepalm:

Posted

The Cumberland Basin Road System does work compared to the chaos that is the rest of Bristol roads. 

It is functional and in a late 20th century way there is a beauty to it and it must be said it is a fantastic piece of civil engineering

But if you are a new incoming to the City who would never venture South of the City I can see the appeal of knocking it all down and building more overpriced yuppie flats. Yes to hell with the generations of native Bristolians and air passengers and football fans trying to get to their destination, let’s turn the clock back 100 years and create a nice little West Country harbour for all those London professionals and hipsters to move into.

 

 

Posted
6 hours ago, ZiderEyed said:

What happened to that plan to dam it further up to lock all the water in? Be good that, like Amsterdam but with less of the mellowness and hallucinations.

I had forgotten about that. Wasn't the floating harbour supposed to be some kind of inner city watersport oasis? That looked pretty good IIRC so there's no chance it will happen.

Posted
10 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

How high is it going to be? :ermm:

I do think the road system could be redesigned in some way around Spike Island/Nova Scotia but as a whole the area is quite nice. Building flats would be a dreadful idea.

We probably need this because we're fast running out of city centre space for student accommodation...

education, education, education/location, location, location etc etc...

Posted
12 hours ago, phantom said:

Marvin Rees plans to knock down Cumberland Basin and rename it ‘Western Harbour’

He wants to demolish Plimsoll Swing Bridge and build a new crossing closer to the Suspension Bridge

The “ugly road network” across the Cumberland Basin is to be knocked down and turned in to a housing development called ‘Western Harbour’, Bristol Mayor, Marvin Rees has announced.

The shock scheme was revealed during Mr Rees’ ‘State of the City Address’ on Wednesday, October 18 (you can read it in full here) which laid out the Bristol Mayor’s vision for the future of the city.

The 45-year-old set out his plan while discussing Bristol’s continuing struggle with housing stock.

While there was little detail, it appears Mr Rees has a self-confessed “ambition plan” to tear down the Brunel Way road network and Plimsoll Swing Bridge.

In its place he hopes to develop housing on the west of Spike Island and on “both sides of the Avon”. He did not elaborate on where this land might be, but it is possible homes might be built at the top end of Greville Smyth Park and on the allotments which sit under Brunel Way.

To ensure traffic can still travel between the western and northern parts of the city, the Bristol Mayor is proposing to build a new road crossing to replace the swing bridge further up river and closer to the Suspension Bridge.

He hinted the whole development may be renamed 'Western Harbour'.

Mr Rees said: “We are putting together a proposal that will tear down the old, ugly road network across the western end of the harbour, build a new bridge across the river at a lower point and develop the available land on both sides of the Avon, bringing more affordable housing to the city centre, extending the harbour as a residential area to the west.

“We may even rename the Cumberland Basin, the Western Harbour. I hope to unveil these plans soon.”

you can file this alongside the Portishead rail link and the new arena.

Posted
49 minutes ago, pillred said:

you can file this alongside the Portishead rail link and the new arena.

The difference with this which might see it happen is it sounds very property based and there would be serious money (with pretty much immediate returns) to be made. So finding outside investment would be a lot easier to find.

Posted
2 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said:

The difference with this which might see it happen is it sounds very property based and there would be serious money (with pretty much immediate returns) to be made. So finding outside investment would be a lot easier to find.

yes nothing like a quick profit to oil the wheels of industry.

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