class not gas Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Had a good view of this Taylor did nothing except square up to the Leeds player, who clearly headbutted him.
BS3_RED Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong.
Major Isewater Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BS3_RED said: Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong. Apparently he broke Matty's nose .
BS3_RED Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Apparently he broke Matty's nose . Ive heard and seen the video of it but I still cant see the Leeds players head move forwards into Matty at any time. Maybe just maybe our player was at fault.
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong. I thought that on first viewing but on subsequent viewings the Leeds guy looks as though he definitely nutted Taylor.
RT's Vaseline Tub Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong. To me it looked like Matty went to nut him but the Leeds player beat him to it; again my viewpoint from the Lansdown - so both correct in getting a Red whoever may have come out worse.
Davefevs Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong. My view from LS too. Thought the Leeds guy unlucky. I think MT had the forward momentum, and has broke his win nose by doing what he did. Stupidity.
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Ive heard and seen the video of it but I still cant see the Leeds players head move forwards into Matty at any time. Maybe just maybe our player was at fault.
BS3_RED Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said: A still picture does not really stand for much though. For all that tells me Matty ran into him and broke his own nose.
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Now from my view in the Lansdown, the Leeds player just stood there and Matty just walked into him with force and then his head swung back. Didnt see the Leeds player do much wrong. It looks a lot worse on the video. Thuggish act by the Leeds guy.
Donkeeebles Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I've seen the video and you can clearly see Leeds player head butt Taylor. Cannot see what Taylor did to deserve a red, yellow at worst for squaring up
BS3_RED Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: It looks a lot worse on the video. Thuggish act by the Leeds guy. I could not see his (Leeds player) head move in that either. Can clearly see Matty's head swing back after contact though. Maybe I need to see it in better detail.
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, BS3_RED said: I could not see his (Leeds player) head move in that either. Can clearly see Matty's head swing back after contact though. Maybe I need to see it in better detail. You DO :laugh:
pommers65 Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Clear view from the south stand Leeds player headbutted Taylor...No doubt about it
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 One of those reds where the least deserved is 3 games. Blatant piece of violence from a bit of a "one" by all accounts. Not a guy new to the long walk, shall we say.
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: I could not see his (Leeds player) head move in that either. Can clearly see Matty's head swing back after contact though. Maybe I need to see it in better detail. Taylor's head does not move until the Leeds player lowers his head.
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Taylor's head does not move until the Leeds player lowers his head. The more you see it, the worse it looks. Good luck Matty, with the appeal and the nose!!
Vincent Vega Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Anybody get a view of the scenes in the tunnel, to be honest it looked like at least we competed during the aggro.
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/10076139/football-league-talking-points-blackburns-last-chance Oh should they, Don?
WayOutWest Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said: Anybody get a view of the scenes in the tunnel, to be honest it looked like at least we competed during the aggro. I think it was Jamie Mac that had a word with Leeds player as he walked down the tunnel. Their bench to exception to that and there was a lot of finger point and shouting from both benches. Matty Taylor walked down the tunnel, nothing was said from either side. Thats what I saw from the stream. Stevo
Davefevs Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: A still picture does not really stand for much though. For all that tells me Matty ran into him and broke his own nose. That was my view too. The pic shows that Taylor is on the match towards the player. If he’s ducked his head down with no momentum forward, then you get a clash. Both to blame? Stupid...whatever happened.
Guest evander Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 this was all taylor leeds lad was unlucky
Yipikiaye Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Both players had to go off . You don’t run into someone like Taylor did . Didn’t think the tackle was that bad anyway.
Donkeeebles Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I'm certainly surprised by some of these responses. It's a disgusting head butt and for me he should face a longer ban than 3 matches.
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Donkeeebles said: I'm certainly surprised by some of these responses. It's a disgusting head butt and for me he should face a longer ban than 3 matches. TOTALLY TOTALLY agree with you. Needs longer than the 3 games. Did you hear LJ saying he wouldn't be surprised to see the police involved. A bit spur of the moment maybe, but you can see City are well pissed off with it. Total thug and needs to focking sort his act out, or i seriously think the guy is gonna go the way of Ben Thatcher
REDOXO Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BS3_RED said: A still picture does not really stand for much though. For all that tells me Matty ran into him and broke his own nose. In general I would agree. But as we have the complete video as well it's pretty clear that Taylor did not nose butt the Leeds guys forehead. Is it not?
RumRed Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Bloody pathetic, why put your self in that position?
Redtucks Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, pommers65 said: Clear view from the south stand Leeds player headbutted Taylor...No doubt about it Could not agree more. I was also in the south stand.
Major Isewater Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, evander said: this was all taylor leeds lad was unlucky Is that you Thatch ? Taylor was fouled , stupidly squared up to his opponent and then got nutted. Red for Leeds player. Yellow for reacting for Taylor is my view .
OnCider Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Also saw it from the South Stand. Taylor squared up to him and the Leeds player clearly butted him. It wasn’t even the usual “head-butt” that footballers do and get sent off for. This was a full-on Glaswegian kiss.
CheddarReds Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 A little part of me enjoyed Macca having words with Beradi as he walked down the tunnel.
lenred Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, CheddarReds said: A little part of me enjoyed Macca having words with Beradi as he walked down the tunnel. Yep, it was really good to see our JM and the rest of the backroom staff sticking together and getting stuck in to the opposition. Some may say it's childish but to me it shows great spirit and togetherness.
Red white and red Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, BS3_RED said: Ive heard and seen the video of it but I still cant see the Leeds players head move forwards into Matty at any time. Maybe just maybe our player was at fault. Well no, he broke Taylor's nose. Did he break his own nose?
gordie Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Matty squared up to him and Leeds fella butted him. Should of been red to Leeds and yellow to Taylor
Judda Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Red white and red said: Well no, he broke Taylor's nose. Did he break his own nose? If you run into a wall you can break your nose... does the wall get done for gbh!?!
Major Isewater Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Judda said: If you run into a wall you can break your nose... does the wall get done for gbh!?! If you have a good enough lawyer there's a chance .
Jacki Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, evander said: this was all taylor leeds lad was unlucky I presume this is a wind up? Yes Taylor shouldn’t have stormed over like he did but the Leeds player has clearly pulled his head back and landed a full blown head butt. He should get banned for an extra couple of games for it imo.
Guest evander Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 sorry i didnt see the full blown headbutt
Jack Dawe Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 56 minutes ago, RumRed said: Bloody pathetic, why put your self in that position? His movement was poor today
BRISTOL86 Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 The Leeds guy should get a lengthy ban but you have to question what Taylor was even doing? Bit of a nothing tackle and he goes squaring up to him like he’s been scissor kicked! Taylor was all but saying ‘go on then mate, headbutt me’ - why go looking for it? We’re 3-0 down, get your head down and get on with the game.
Judda Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: The Leeds guy should get a lengthy ban but you have to question what Taylor was even doing? Bit of a nothing tackle and he goes squaring up to him like he’s been scissor kicked! Taylor was all but saying ‘go on then mate, headbutt me’ - why go looking for it? We’re 3-0 down, get your head down and get on with the game. Just back after a lengthy spell on the sidelines and on for 10 mins before getting a 3 game ban... **** Guilty or not... no need.
Kingswoodactor Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 58 minutes ago, lenred said: Yep, it was really good to see our JM and the rest of the backroom staff sticking together and getting stuck in to the opposition. Some may say it's childish but to me it shows great spirit and togetherness. Highlight of the entire game for me. Says it all!
AppyDAZE Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, Judda said: Just back after a lengthy spell on the sidelines and on for 10 mins before getting a 3 game ban... **** Guilty or not... no need. Nice to call your own player that, especially seeing as he got nutted, broke his nose and all because he didn't like being fouled. Probably pissed off that the game was almost up before he got his chance today. Hope they appeal, hope he gets off and he should. Never a red for Matty. Yellow max.
Jacki Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 49 minutes ago, evander said: sorry i didnt see the full blown headbutt Watch it back. He’s properly nutted Taylor... the broken nose is a bit of a giveaway.
Red-Robbo Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, evander said: this was all taylor leeds lad was unlucky Top trolling. 16 posts newbie. Hmmm. Gaschat was probably a bit depressing today....
Donkeeebles Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, evander said: no taylor dived Last time I saw anything go down so dramatically was when you horse punchers went out the football league
Chivs Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Just now, Super said: Just seen it no idea why taylor was sent off. Agreed. Just watched the highlights. How Taylor gets sent off for that is unbelievable. Maybe breaking a nose is a red card offence these days.
JBFC II Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, evander said: citd just telling the truth Must be hard losing 3 games in a week without scoring a goal, can't blame you coming over here
kit Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Watching it live I thought that Taylor had engineered the whole situation, taken a dive, and the Leeds player was incredibly unlucky. Watching the replay the Leeds player clearly nuts him and deserved a red, Taylor did engineer the situation and should have just got a booking for it.
Septic Peg Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 I've seen the vid. I thought MT was gonna chest bump the Leeds fella. But the Leeds player went full on Glasgow kiss and down went Matty. Aden Flint then literally leaps like a Salmon from nowhere and pushes the Leeds lad away... Red for the Leeds lad. Yellow for Taylor I reckon.
cider-manc Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 Could clearly see the Leeds player headbutt Taylor from where I was in the south stand. To be honest Taylor has been made to look a bit of a mug after chasing him down. But I've no idea what the hell he was sent off for.
Guest Posted October 21, 2017 Posted October 21, 2017 From W16 MT did a face to face. Leeds lad laid the nut on him - and I haven't even seen any video on it yet to confirm my view.
Judda Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 3 hours ago, AppyDAZE said: Nice to call your own player that, especially seeing as he got nutted, broke his nose and all because he didn't like being fouled. Probably pissed off that the game was almost up before he got his chance today. Hope they appeal, hope he gets off and he should. Never a red for Matty. Yellow max. Having seen the replay I'd say red for Leeds lad and yellow card as a max for Taylor. Live it looked like Taylor walked into him at pace and threw himself but I'll hold my hands up and say there was a definite head but...
BCFC Rich Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 4 hours ago, kit said: Watching it live I thought that Taylor had engineered the whole situation, taken a dive, and the Leeds player was incredibly unlucky. Watching the replay the Leeds player clearly nuts him and deserved a red, Taylor did engineer the situation and should have just got a booking for it. Same for me. But even for those who disagree the decision makes no sense. If Taylor had engineered it then he should go but Beradi should stay as he wouldn't have done anything. If Beradi nuts Taylor then he should go and Taylor should stay. The only explanation I can think of is the ref thinks the decided to headbutt each other at the exact same moment which is ridiculous.
NickJ Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 9 hours ago, BRISTOL86 said: you have to question what Taylor was even doing? Bit of a nothing tackle and he goes squaring up to him like he’s been scissor kicked! Taylor was all but saying ‘go on then mate, headbutt me’ - why go looking for it? 7 hours ago, cider-manc said: To be honest Taylor has been made to look a bit of a mug after chasing him down. Agree with the above. Leaving aside being on a football pitch, if somebody marches towards you in a provocative and aggressive way, I think you are fully entitled to defend yourself.
wendyredredrobin Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Didnt get a good view yesterday, but watched the video 5 or 6 times this morning. Matty walked towards the Leeds player but his head did not move. Head but by the Leeds player deserves a heavy fine and a 5 match ban. Seriously, I fail to see what Matty did wrong. Why do the police not just prosecute for assault with the video evidence they have? Answer - because its easier to prosecute motorists driving at 23 mph in a 20 limit. Thought that Leeds were the dirtiest team we have seen at AG for a while and got away with most of it.
ciderage Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Would the Police have to investigate if a witness reported it?
Roe Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Taylor's unlucky to get sent off (and I guess more so to have a broken nose as well) but I very much doubt we'd get an appeal overturned seeing as he was the one that went up to Berardi initially. It's somewhat unfair, but we've seen it a million times. It doesn't matter which is "worse" (and a full on headbutt is obviously far worse than just being upset), the officials will cite it as instigating and they'll both get the same punishment. That said, I think as a club we've got a case to ask for further punishment on Berardi who I could see getting an extension to his ban (although I doubt it).
palmerred Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 As much as Taylor may or may not have deserved the Red, had he acted properly he wouldn't have had any incident. Him squaring up and charging towards the player caused this fracas. If he let the ref do his job, he wouldn't have even got a yellow.
Red Skin Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 On 21/10/2017 at 20:18, Redtucks said: Could not agree more. I was also in the south stand. I was in SS too and definite headbutt by Leeds player. Those in Lansdown wouldn't have the right perspective to see it as clearly I'd guess.
JammyOne Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 Same old Leeds - dirty; along with all their fans. Definitely a headbutt.
Redtucks Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 19 hours ago, BCFC Richard said: Same for me. But even for those who disagree the decision makes no sense. If Taylor had engineered it then he should go but Beradi should stay as he wouldn't have done anything. If Beradi nuts Taylor then he should go and Taylor should stay. The only explanation I can think of is the ref thinks the decided to headbutt each other at the exact same moment which is ridiculous. The only explanation I can think of is the ref didn't really have a clue so decided to cover all eventualities!!!
MC RISK77 Posted October 22, 2017 Posted October 22, 2017 On 21/10/2017 at 18:51, Donkeeebles said: I've seen the video and you can clearly see Leeds player head butt Taylor. Cannot see what Taylor did to deserve a red, yellow at worst for squaring up Yellow at worst for squaring up...why the **** did he feel he needed to square up...stupid behaviour and deserved a red
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