Andy082005 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 How in the hell does any football team at any standard go 90 minutes with out a shot on target? More importantly ...how does this happen with us so often? The amount of games we participate in without barely having a shot on target is shocking If this is progression for some....god knows what they consider regression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Andy082005 said: How in the hell does any football team at any standard go 90 minutes with out a shot on target? More importantly ...how does this happen with us so often? The amount of games we participate in without barely having a shot on target is shocking If this is progression for some....god knows what they consider regression Yeah, I’m really surprised especially when you have a winger so good as Callum O’Dowda. He always beats him market and puts in decent crosses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just can’t believe Eliasson hasn’t got any game time. Was really excited about his signing. But when we have been struggling surely he deserved a go . At least he can get a ball in . And can beat a man. Oh well expect he will go on loan or be moved out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 It can happen... if you're up against a great side, midfield closing the spaces etc. However, at this level, it's poor- very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Yep, three times this has happened recently. If it reoccurs at the start of next season the pressure on the tactical genius will crank up. Anyone who fails to see this as a problem is in denial tbh. Our winless run away from home in 2018 will not end now until at least August, if it stretches into September, October etc. then the fact we finished 10/11th this season will not wash either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Feels a bit like we either play open, create loads and are wide open at the back - or go the opposite way. Hence 5-5 then 0-0. LJ needs to find the balance to get real consistent success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Don't make calls, don't make sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepUpLino Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Sack him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 It's not as uncommon as might think, this no shots on target thing. Football is evolving in a certain way and currently it's more possible than it once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singingsuperstar Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Did Frank kick it straight out today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I think you are focussing on the wrong measure, according to most fans - don't you appreciate we are making continued progress toward becoming an established Championship team (with many games with no shots on target, but that is not important) come on now - look for the positives when we score we concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Singingsuperstar said: Did Frank kick it straight out today? Don’t know, but he saved a penalty, which probably pissed off a load of people desperate to slag him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singingsuperstar Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Don’t know, but he saved a penalty, which probably pissed off a load of people desperate to slag him off. Only asked cos my lad and l bet on it (between us) every game. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I know I shouldn’t get involved but.... That is progressing. You can’t argue that isn’t progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 How many shots on target at Middlesbrough-Millwall? Will give you a clue, it's equal to the number of goals- talking both teams here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 How do you have a goal disallowed if you haven't had a shot on target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I don't think they count towards the shots on target. Same as a penalty that is scored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, spudski said: How do you have a goal disallowed if you haven't had a shot on target? Presume if it’s disallowed it’s not counted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, spudski said: How do you have a goal disallowed if you haven't had a shot on target? It's disallowed for an infringement The play is bought back to the moment of the infringement so anything after that doesn't count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Andy082005 said: How in the hell does any football team at any standard go 90 minutes with out a shot on target? More importantly ...how does this happen with us so often? The amount of games we participate in without barely having a shot on target is shocking If this is progression for some....god knows what they consider regression Well, hypothetically:- - you do rather better than anyone expected, and are in second place come Xmas! - "oh shit! we are not ramped up for the Premier League", and it would be a financial shock to a small-minded club. - better reverse out of the promotion spots, and what better than to guarantee no goals (in certain games) than not shooting on target - nice, safe, commendable 10th place finish - tea and medals, and no nasty bills for agents fees and top quality wages. Just a theory. I'm sure its not the actual case. PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmycolour Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, KeepUpLino said: Sack him!!! We can only hope, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 Middlesbrough-Millwall 3 shots on target apiece- two of which were goals. 2, perhaps all of Millwall's shots on target were very very weak and easy to save. Playoff contending clash, 6th v 8th. Liverpool-Stoke- Top 4 pushers v relegation scrappers. Shots on target? Liverpool 2 Stoke 1. Game is changing, far more controlled and micro managed by coaches than what it was even a decade ago. One consequence of this is less shots on target. Also Karanka's tactics would contribute to this in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Red Army 75 said: Just can’t believe Eliasson hasn’t got any game time. Was really excited about his signing. But when we have been struggling surely he deserved a go . At least he can get a ball in . And can beat a man. Oh well expect he will go on loan or be moved out #OneForTheFuture.....bloody hell, successful managers at this level sign proven players for the present.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Singingsuperstar said: Did Frank kick it straight out today? Yes, he was doing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted April 28, 2018 Report Share Posted April 28, 2018 I'm more interested in the chances to shoot vs shots ratio. We seem to want to walk the ball into the net too often. Arsenal reminded me of city the other night. Gaping acres of spaces on the wings but cutting back and barely a cross. Another dozen passes instead before breaking down. I'd genuinely be interested to know how a player decides when it's better to shoot or pass sometimes. They're not all playing against David De Gea on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 21 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I don't think they count towards the shots on target. Same as a penalty that is scored I don`t think they count blocked shots either so if you hit one on target from the edge of the box and a defender chucks himself in the way it doesn`t count as one. I could well be wrong about that but I`m sure I heard it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 On 28/04/2018 at 19:40, Singingsuperstar said: Did Frank kick it straight out today? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: I don`t think they count blocked shots either so if you hit one on target from the edge of the box and a defender chucks himself in the way it doesn`t count as one. I could well be wrong about that but I`m sure I heard it somewhere. I think I've heard that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 22 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: I'm more interested in the chances to shoot vs shots ratio. We seem to want to walk the ball into the net too often. Arsenal reminded me of city the other night. Gaping acres of spaces on the wings but cutting back and barely a cross. Another dozen passes instead before breaking down. I'd genuinely be interested to know how a player decides when it's better to shoot or pass sometimes. They're not all playing against David De Gea on a weekly basis. My greatest fears is that LJ wants to copy Arsenal’s style. Absolutely hate it, boring, sterile, plodding, passionless game of risk adverse chess. A reincarnation of SoDs dominate possession and we will win....but don’t look at the league table as that tells you something entirely different. The game’s moved on from the 90’s. Fast, attacking risk-taking football is the winning formula now go out and deliver it LJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted April 29, 2018 Report Share Posted April 29, 2018 On 28/04/2018 at 19:31, Mr Popodopolous said: Shots on target? Liverpool 2 Stoke 1. This is surely the first time anyone has compared City to the current Liverpool style of play - I must admit I hadn't noticed the similarity before but perhaps, just perhaps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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