ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 This is a topic that crops up regularly so I thought I'd create a poll. The Reading fixture has brought this issue into focus once more, because they have halved our allocation this season, and we now have a thread with numerous requests for tickets, so it's clear a lot of people have missed out on the opportunity to attend the game. On the flip side, we often hear criticism of City for giving teams a larger away allocation than they are obliged to. It strikes me that if that's how we propose to treat other away fans, then that's how we should expect to be treated in return. So, to the poll...let's assume all things are equal: both clubs have an equally sized stadium with similar average attendances that generally allow for an away allocation bigger than the minimum obligation. You want to attend both games but you're not in the top 2000 that guarantees you a ticket in either scenario. Which do you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: This is a topic that crops up regularly so I thought I'd create a poll. The Reading fixture has brought this issue into focus once more, because they have halved our allocation this season, and we now have a thread with numerous requests for tickets, so it's clear a lot of people have missed out on the opportunity to attend the game. On the flip side, we often hear criticism of City for giving teams a larger away allocation than they are obliged to. It strikes me that if that's how we propose to treat other away fans, then that's how we should expect to be treated in return. So, to the poll...let's assume all things are equal: both clubs have an equally sized stadium with similar average attendances that generally allow for an away allocation bigger than the minimum obligation. You want to attend both games but you're not in the top 2000 that guarantees you a ticket in either scenario. Which do you choose? We certainly don’t have similar average attendances, they only actually had 6,000 for one home league game last season and are averaging 13,000 this season while we average 20,000, they’ll have 10,000 empty seats next week while we can shift double our allocation, crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Surely we should be selling as many tickets as we can. A good away support also seems to help with the atmosphere to me - the City support always rise to the challenge and the results can be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Our Reading allocation has absolutely nothing to do with how many we give them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: Our Reading allocation has absolutely nothing to do with how many we give them? You’re right, it seems everyone gets the same 2,000 odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BessexRED Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Where would people miss out if we were allocated 2k? The only places off the top of my head that we would/could take more than 2k to is Swansea, Brentford, Reading and Villa. 2,000 is 700 more than our rough average from the last season so plenty enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, harrys said: You’re right, it seems everyone gets the same 2,000 odd Yep they’ve split the stand in half now so home fans will be in there with away fans bit like at West Brom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: Our Reading allocation has absolutely nothing to do with how many we give them? I don't think our allocation anywhere has anything to do with how many we give them does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC1512 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: I don't think our allocation anywhere has anything to do with how many we give them does it? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Agree with the OP in principle- not sure it's applicable to Reading, but agree in principle would rather get a greater chance chance for an away ticket, if it meant a bigger away allocation then so be it. Would go further, and say it's good for the game in general big away followings- many on here might disagree, but I'd say like the past, talking the 70's if not before probably, that a whole end to away fans- combined with safe standing in the other end behind the goal would be fantastic for the atmosphere. Idea being all clubs have to give an 'end' to the opposition- no way would it fly with police and council however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, harrys said: We certainly don’t have similar average attendances, they only actually had 6,000 for one home league game last season and are averaging 13,000 this season while we average 20,000, they’ll have 10,000 empty seats next week while we can shift double our allocation, crazy With regard to the poll I’m not specifically referring to Reading. It’s a hypothetical scenario that poses the question; are we happy to limit away allocations in return for having similar limits placed on us. I’m talking about the broad principle. 28 minutes ago, Taunton_BCFC said: Our Reading allocation has absolutely nothing to do with how many we give them? 13 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: I don't think our allocation anywhere has anything to do with how many we give them does it? I’m not claiming it does. I’m talking about the principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, BessexRED said: Where would people miss out if we were allocated 2k? The only places off the top of my head that we would/could take more than 2k to is Swansea, Brentford, Reading and Villa. 2,000 is 700 more than our rough average from the last season so plenty enough. The flip side of this is that 2,000 is enough for most teams visiting Ashton Gate. So you could say the argument is: are we happy for, say, five teams to have a large allocation at Ashton Gate and in return we get five big away followings of our own? Or do we limit them but then we don’t get the big away folllowings either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 31 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: With regard to the poll I’m not specifically referring to Reading. It’s a hypothetical scenario that poses the question; are we happy to limit away allocations in return for having similar limits placed on us. I’m talking about the broad principle. I’m not claiming it does. I’m talking about the principle. You said that “Both clubs have an equally size stadium with SIMILAR AVERAGE ATTENDANCES” this is simply incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, harrys said: You said that “Both clubs have an equally size stadium with SIMILAR AVERAGE ATTENDANCES” this is simply incorrect Which part of “I’m not specifically referring to Reading” did you not understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, harrys said: You said that “Both clubs have an equally size stadium with SIMILAR AVERAGE ATTENDANCES” this is simply incorrect Also you need to look up the word “hypothetical”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 The way the ground is now designed with the horse shoe so totally home fans only and no access to away fans I’d give them the whole atyeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: I’m not claiming it does. I’m talking about the principle. But they aren't connected so I don't get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Give every away team the whole Atyeo unless the game looks like being a sell out. I don't care how many tickets they do or don't give us, every bum on a seat is worth more £££££ to BCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Drew Peacock said: But they aren't connected so I don't get your point. They don’t have to be connected. I’m talking about the principle of large v small allocations. If we are saying we want to give teams a small allocation then we have to be willing to expect the same treatment in return. I’m asking which way you want it. And to be absolutely clear I’m not talking specifically about Reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I also believe that all clubs should encourage travelling fans and all join the 20s plenty movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said: They don’t have to be connected. I’m talking about the principle of large v small allocations. If we are saying we want to give teams a small allocation then we have to be willing to expect the same treatment in return. I’m asking which way you want it. And to be absolutely clear I’m not talking specifically about Reading. Let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: They don’t have to be connected. I’m talking about the principle of large v small allocations. If we are saying we want to give teams a small allocation then we have to be willing to expect the same treatment in return. I’m asking which way you want it. And to be absolutely clear I’m not talking specifically about Reading. That isn't how it works though. It's a non-point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I give up. Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 8 hours ago, harrys said: Good Pathetic. Why the aggression? All I was looking for was an interesting and constructive debate. A shame it proved beyond you. Over 100 people have voted so clearly some were able to grasp the concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 12 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said: They don’t have to be connected. I’m talking about the principle of large v small allocations. If we are saying we want to give teams a small allocation then we have to be willing to expect the same treatment in return. I’m asking which way you want it. And to be absolutely clear I’m not talking specifically about Reading. I bet you wish you didn’t bother! Don’t worry it’s completely obvious this was a hypothetical situation and it’s completely obvious what point you were trying to get across and the debate you were trying to start, but what can you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted October 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: I bet you wish you didn’t bother! Don’t worry it’s completely obvious this was a hypothetical situation and it’s completely obvious what point you were trying to get across and the debate you were trying to start, but what can you do! Thanks Tinman. Genuinely appreciate that. It’s just a shame when all I was looking for was an interesting discussion. I think I explained the premise of the poll pretty clearly in the opening post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 13 hours ago, wendyredredrobin said: Give every away team the whole Atyeo unless the game looks like being a sell out. I don't care how many tickets they do or don't give us, every bum on a seat is worth more £££££ to BCFC. I agree. If taking money off an away fan helps our transfer budget or even keeps my ST price down then take the money. If we can’t outsing and intimidate 4000 then that’s our problem not theirs. Only when we have greater demand, eg ManU last season should we not give the full amount. But, I’m more interested in pricing. Hull charged us £12 last season and we charged them nearer £30. I don’t know what the pricing is tomorrow for them but as the away fixture against them is the last game of the season I can’t see it being £12 again! Rotherham away a couple of weeks ago ( weds night) was also an offer price for us, we should offer a deal back. Stoke etc must be a bit shocked at Championship prices after the £20’s plenty they have been used to, but they are still getting FREE travel this season so that is a huge help. We can only dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted October 26, 2018 Report Share Posted October 26, 2018 We should really be asking Bristol Rovers how they deal with situation, they are the experts on selling out away allocations. Aren’t they..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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