brady bunch Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just watched back the highlights on BCTV and as I thought at the time (I was in line) the Matty Taylor chance (PAcks long pass over the top, Matty was clear on goal with the keeper retreating) early in the first half at 0-0 was on side. He was level with the defender when the ball was played. I know its "what ifs", but I suspect with Wigans away form this season, it would have been a different result if we had got the desicion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownendRed97 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Looked like his head was ahead of play - I tried to pause it at the exact moment Pack played the ball - was tight but I think the lino got it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 We've had quite a few very tight calls of this nature home and away this season- especially since the turn of the year. Think the Weimann disallowed goals during the unbeaten run- vs Derby, Nottingham Forest away and at home to Swansea. Plus Pisano's v QPR. Now this. Just luck or something for the striking coaches to work on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 We have the worst officials in world football. And my wife said to me on my return, that if I had thumped that "line," she wouldn't have blamed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEyez Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, DownendRed97 said: Looked like his head was ahead of play - I tried to pause it at the exact moment Pack played the ball - was tight but I think the lino got it right So you could say he was a head of play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Luck and incorrect enforcement of the rules? With some of those decisions you mentioned there's no way the linesman could have been certain the player was offside, so must have guessed. The rule states (or used to) about benefit of doubt towards the attacking side- so either that hasn't been getting given or that's no longer the case. I’m sorry but the rule states ‘ benefit of doubt towards the attacking team unless the attacking team is Bristol City ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Major Isewater said: I’m sorry but the rule states ‘ benefit of doubt towards the attacking team unless the attacking team is Bristol City ‘ Let's split the difference and say it was 3 wrongly disallowed. I make it one minimum Weimann, not yet found the others. I think we have not been the luckiest in front of goal this season though- woodwork + disallowed rolling total is quite a few now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Just now, JamesBCFC said: Aren't we the team that has hit the woodwork the most this season? Been over a month since I've seen it said, so maybe someone's caught us up. Probably right up there if not the most. I'll look it up sometime but I believe that and the 5 questionable offside decisions might partially explain some of the discontent and feelings of us being terribly dull this season. Think we have hbit woodwork 16 or 17 separate occasions in the League this season though so we'd be near the top if not the top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, phantom said: That is incredibly tight! Looked at it several times and still unsure...thinking Taylor has strayed marginally offside but it's very tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That is incredibly tight! Looked at it several times and still unsure...thinking Taylor has strayed marginally offside but it's very tricky. He’s leaning off, Lino is bang in line. Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 At the time I thought the goal keeper seemed to stop as soon as the ref blew his whistle. If there had been no whistle I’m sure he would have reached the ball before Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I thought their winner should have been disallowed as well.The big Wigan forward virtually forearm smashes Kalas in the face as he goes into challenge him. The more I see it the more I feel we were robbed of the win.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, phantom said: Good pausing skills. I'm going to have to disagree with the OP, and agree with the lino here... His head is in an offside position. You can play the ball with your head, therefore he's offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 It was tight, which the group sat by us all thought. From the corner of the LS by the SS we were not very well placed, but sometimes you can tell by the players reactions it was close. Just offside judging by that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 He is just off imo so a good call, a couple of inches on and could still have been called off though. It is so quick 'live' and some of them you cannot really blame the lino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, phantom said: He's ON., good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: He's ON., good work Quite evidently off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: He's ON., good work 6 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Quite evidently off This is like the Hokey Cokey. In out shake it all about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I suppose the fact is he is OFF because it was given off. I'm still thinking about that BW miss tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Dazzler Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 57 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said: I thought their winner should have been disallowed as well.The big Wigan forward virtually forearm smashes Kalas in the face as he goes into challenge him. The more I see it the more I feel we were robbed of the win.......... Absolutely right (although it wasn't a winner, it felt like we lost it!). It should have been a free kick to us in our box and at least a yellow card for their forward. Pretty sure we would have seen the game out from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Level...had the slide rule out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Tight , but also you have to take into account the Linesman's , sorry , assistant incompetent's angle . From the pic I would guess all he could see is Matt Taylor. Now if you had mentioned the forearm smash , that would be different. TBF I guess the Ref's angle isn't the best either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, phantom said: This video is sh*t. I have being pressing play for 20 minutes and nothing's happening.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, brady bunch said: Just watched back the highlights on BCTV and as I thought at the time (I was in line) the Matty Taylor chance (PAcks long pass over the top, Matty was clear on goal with the keeper retreating) early in the first half at 0-0 was on side. He was level with the defender when the ball was played. I know its "what ifs", but I suspect with Wigans away form this season, it would have been a different result if we had got the desicion.. We should have won regardless.. Stop searching for excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: We should have won regardless.. Stop searching for excuses. Wigan did a bit of a job on us but regardless once we had turned it round and done the hard part on the day- yeah 2 points dropped. Unsure about the legitimacy of their equaliser though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Robert the bruce said: We should have won regardless.. Stop searching for excuses. It was poor game management in the end. LJ made the right attacking substitutions and we overhauled a one goal deficit as a direct result of his decisions. However, not for the first time this season we were not savvy when it came to closing the game out. Wigan had been threatening to score again and we failed to react appropriately to the warning signs. When the board went up for 5 minutes added time I feared the worst and was frustrated but not in the least surprised when the inevitable happened. City were still playing like they were looking for the third goal. The head coach can do very little in those circumstances. It’s up to the players on the pitch and the more experienced, senior pro’s should have taken charge and shut up shop. We were too open and paid the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Fantastic positioning by lino and he got it right I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, CliftonCliff said: It was poor game management in the end. LJ made the right attacking substitutions and we overhauled a one goal deficit as a direct result of his decisions. However, not for the first time this season we were not savvy when it came to closing the game out. Wigan had been threatening to score again and we failed to react appropriately to the warning signs. When the board went up for 5 minutes added time I feared the worst and was frustrated but not in the least surprised when the inevitable happened. City were still playing like they were looking for the third goal. The head coach can do very little in those circumstances. It’s up to the players on the pitch and the more experienced, senior pro’s should have taken charge and shut up shop. We were too open and paid the price. Thought we needed that third in all honesty.. I remember when Wright should have made it 3-1 when we had all the momentum, crowd was up- getting pretty worried that it would come back on us. Because of the necessary attacking changes, it left us fairly thin at the back- in what had already been a pretty open game. Maybe if we had sat back deeper at 2-1...but then still likely they would have created danger in that scenario too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Very close call, that Taylor offside decision. Presumably the lino’s view of the last defender was blocked by Diedhiou and/or Taylor. It also looks like we were unlucky with the forearm smash for their equaliser. Having said that, we always looked vulnerable, especially when they whipped crosses over, so frustrating as it was that late goal was no surprise. Sometimes we just don’t seem to be able to clear our lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Wigan did a bit of a job on us It's a problem at home isn't it. Wigan did a job on us, Ipswich did a job , Birmingham did a good job. I don't know the answer, oh to be like Norwich and dominate games at home. We have been awesome away , at home we are about 18th , while away 5th. Mid table home form and we'd be nailed on playoffs, we just can't seem to find the formula that works home AND away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: thought their winner should have been disallowed Shoud have been equaliser.... doh. Just so bloody angry it was given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: It's a problem at home isn't it. Wigan did a job on us, Ipswich did a job , Birmingham did a good job. I don't know the answer, oh to be like Norwich and dominate games at home. We have been awesome away , at home we are about 18th , while away 5th. Mid table home form and we'd be nailed on playoffs, we just can't seem to find the formula that works home AND away. It's funny really. In general under LJ we have been better at home over a season- sometimes by a decent margin at that! More reactive tactics maybe, more counterattack minded. Whatever the reason, the trend has sharply reversed this season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 3 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Luck and incorrect enforcement of the rules? With some of those decisions you mentioned there's no way the linesman could have been certain the player was offside, so must have guessed. The rule states (or used to) about benefit of doubt towards the attacking side- so either that hasn't been getting given or that's no longer the case. There is nothing in the laws of the game re benefit of the doubt, and to my knowledge there never has been. Your either on or off, the linesman gives an honest decision, 99% of which are right, they do get them wrong, but they are only human! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Alex_BCFC said: Fantastic positioning by lino and he got it right I think. Was just going to type exactly that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Moments of Pleasure said: We have the worst officials in world football. And my wife said to me on my return, that if I had thumped that "line," she wouldn't have blamed me. Cus you’re ‘ard mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Kieth Stroud was the referee would did you expect by law of averages he always gets something wrong when in charge of our games. At least we don’t lose this time out with him in charge so bonus I say !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, CliftonCliff said: It was poor game management in the end. LJ made the right attacking substitutions and we overhauled a one goal deficit as a direct result of his decisions. However, not for the first time this season we were not savvy when it came to closing the game out. Wigan had been threatening to score again and we failed to react appropriately to the warning signs. When the board went up for 5 minutes added time I feared the worst and was frustrated but not in the least surprised when the inevitable happened. City were still playing like they were looking for the third goal. The head coach can do very little in those circumstances. It’s up to the players on the pitch and the more experienced, senior pro’s should have taken charge and shut up shop. We were too open and paid the price. Correct - it's the second time if you want to be really pedantic. Saturday was only the second time all season that we have conceded in the last 15 minutes of a game, which I would say proves that we have been very savvy at closing games out this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Alex_BCFC said: Fantastic positioning by lino and he got it right I think. Agree Alex. In situations like this unless the lino is cross eyed, the problem is how he can see across the line at the exact moment Pack plays the ball. Looking at one or the other a split second adrift can make the difference between putting his flag up or not, I take it for granted this season that any marginal decisions will tend not to go in our favour e.g. Kalas getting a forearm smash in the build up to the equaliser - you just know if the roles had been reversed with us getting a winning goal it would have been spotted and penalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Aren't we the team that has hit the woodwork the most this season? So we're consistently off-target then? Doesn't sound particularly unlucky to me, let's try shooting on target maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: I thought their winner should have been disallowed as well.The big Wigan forward virtually forearm smashes Kalas in the face as he goes into challenge him. The more I see it the more I feel we were robbed of the win.......... If they did score a winner, then it must have been disallowed..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 7 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Aren't we the team that has hit the woodwork the most this season? Been over a month since I've seen it said, so maybe someone's caught us up. No it's correct and only been given 1 pen and that was QPR at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 hours ago, CityCiderEd said: Should have been equaliser.... doh. Just so bloody angry it was given. 8 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: If they did score a winner, then it must have been disallowed..! Corrected it 4 hours ago @Bar BS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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