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Big club syndrome, a bloody awful refereeing display. The penalty changed the game and was a shocking decision. The number of times the Villa players got away with fouls was ridiculous but as soon as it was a foul by us he couldn't wait to get the card out. As bad as the ref was Max had a blinder and kept the score respectable. 

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1 minute ago, Fordy62 said:

Whereas I’m not arguing that he had a shocker - it was a deserved win for them. 

They did but have to question how much the decision changed the game which was level until then. 

I won’t moan too much cos we had a shocker given for us v QPR. 

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1 minute ago, Alex_BCFC said:

They did but have to question how much the decision changed the game which was level until then. 

I won’t moan too much cos we had a shocker given for us v QPR. 

For sure, and every ref is capable of getting a big one wrong, as he did here. It happens.

It was however so very much more than that. Was just a flat out homer. Every. Single. Time.

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1 minute ago, billywedlock said:

He did fail to show Taylor a red card though . So it was not all one way . Saw game from half way line behind the bench and the tackle was from behind and nowhere near the bell . Straight red . 

Also great view for penalty , something city fans here could not see from their corner position  Was ridiculous , player backing in and goes down . City players were rightly furious . It changed momentum of the game . 

So should of been 10v10 then, as McGinn should of gone too.

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By the sound of things he falls into the Kieth Stroud category of bottling it when being put in charge of ex premier league clubs. Parachute payments = bungs = they are being rewarded for their relegation/failures!!!! Get a grip we need consistency in referees across the league.  

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He'll be back at home already! - tucked up in front of the TV with his Villa shirt and his villa slippers on.

Given one or two of the other links in this thread I think he is probably just incompetent. That Bolton penalty ?

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3 minutes ago, cityal said:

He'll be back at home already! - tucked up in front of the TV with his Villa shirt and his villa slippers on.

Given one or two of the other links in this thread I think he is probably just incompetent. That Bolton penalty ?

A Scotty Duncan classic, no doubt

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9 minutes ago, cityal said:

He'll be back at home already! - tucked up in front of the TV with his Villa shirt and his villa slippers on.

Given one or two of the other links in this thread I think he is probably just incompetent. That Bolton penalty ?

No he's not. 

Someone left their car blocking the entrance to the Villa players and officials car park, so he's still stuck at the ground until he can get his car out.

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34 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

They were on top second half before the penalty. But only those 10 minutes.

The penalty was a massive decision and the goal gave them momentum, so no surprise that after that their spirits were lifted and they then went forward again and again.

That 1 decision was the deciding point of the game.

Sorry mate, I couldn't resist correcting the football parlance...

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17 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Quite a soft penalty but Villa definitely deserved the win...

If you take away the penalty, which i have now watched 5 times on Sky, and still can't work out why it was given, then Villa scored once.........we also scored once.  It's bad enough putting up with incompetent officials, without having to read absurd statements like 'Villa definitely deserved the win' WTF, NO they did not  ? ?

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4 minutes ago, maxjak said:

If you take away the penalty, which i have now watched 5 times on Sky, and still can't work out why it was given, then Villa scored once.........we also scored once.  It's bad enough putting up with incompetent officials, without having to read absurd statements like 'Villa definitely deserved the win' WTF, NO they did not  ? ?

I've said this before and i'll say it again...  the goalkeeper is a part of your team. if he makes a stack of saves it's no different to your striker getting a hat-trick.

The ref CHANGED the game and helped them all game

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It makes you bl00dy sick that Villa with all the money and big names still get a ref who makes sure they win. Life is never fair but it doesn't make it any easier to swallow. Come LJ and the lads get ready to stuff Reading. And whatever happens they have done us proud this season.

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19 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Quite a soft penalty but Villa definitely deserved the win...

This is why so many are pissed off at the decision, up until it was given the game was evenly matched, turned the game massively in Villa’s favour, and City players were quite rightly incensed at such a disgraceful decision. Amazed as I was at how obvious one sided he was I was equally amazed how he never sent any City players off, 7 yellows we had today which results in a fine I believe, yet this tosser will get his pay cheque and be back next week with no worries whatsoever, yet his joke of a performance could possibly **** up our whole season and derail us from now on in. Had he turned down Villa’s bribe before the game he’ll of witnessed a very decent game of football but he didn’t and ****** it after 10mins in.

I hope the w4nker gets his fee’s taken off him, and his next game at Chernobyl with all they dribbling gas morons singing about Eileen.

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Looking at the defender as it comes over, he has literally done nothing, not even got his arms around him. The forward has thrown himself to the floor, very badly, and the ref has bought it like a numpty. Or cheat.

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9 minutes ago, BCFC11 said:

 

I hope the w4nker gets his fee’s taken off him, and his next game at Chernobyl with all they dribbling gas morons singing about Eileen.

Who's Eileen? Perhaps Irene's sister.

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I have seen a few people say Villa deserved the win. I think you have to he absolutely braindead to have that opinion. The fact that the “penalty” changed the game. The fact that city players could not challenge aerially without a good chance of a foul being given. The fact that the softest of fouls will get you a yellow card or be sent off. The fact that almost every time we seemed to get in a good position the ref would find some offence to whistle against us. 

You don’t think that affects the players? You don’t think that affects the tactics? Villa looked most dangerous in the lead and last 10 minutes when they could counter us because we threw pretty much 8 bodies forward. Their second goal was good football and that is why I’d say a draw would have been fair but never can i say they deserved it. Yes Max kept us in it at times but again those times were after a terrible penalty and when we had to throw bodies forward. 

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2 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

I have seen a few people say Villa deserved the win. I think you have to he absolutely braindead to have that opinion. The fact that the “penalty” changed the game. The fact that city players could not challenge aerially without a good chance of a foul being given. The fact that the softest of fouls will get you a yellow card or be sent off. The fact that almost every time we seemed to get in a good position the ref would find some offence to whistle against us. 

You don’t think that affects the players? You don’t think that affects the tactics? Villa looked most dangerous in the lead and last 10 minutes when they could counter us because we threw pretty much 8 bodies forward. Their second goal was good football and that is why I’d say a draw would have been fair but never can i say they deserved it. Yes Max kept us in it at times but again those times were after a terrible penalty and when we had to throw bodies forward. 

Post of the day

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1 hour ago, Fordy62 said:

Whereas I’m not arguing that he had a shocker - it was a deserved win for them. 

It was. But for O'Leary it would have been 5 again. Nowhere near them 2nd half.

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According to the BBC site LJ spoke to the referee and asessor after the game.............apparently Weimann was NOT offside.  I wonder if LJ asked what the pen was given for,? I would sincerely like to know?  Presumeably it was deemed as a push, but i honestly am unable to see. I really like and respect Tammy Abraham, but he seemed to make a meal of very minimum contact, but ultimately it was the referee who gave it, so it's his strange decision.

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2 minutes ago, maxjak said:

According to the BBC site LJ spoke to the referee and asessor after the game.............apparently Weimann was NOT offside.  I wonder if LJ asked what the pen was given for,? I would sincerely like to know?  Presumeably it was deemed as a push, but i honestly am unable to see. I really like and respect Tammy Abraham, but he seemed to make a meal of very minimum contact, but ultimately it was the referee who gave it, so it's his strange decision.

Not that it matters, but the penalty was not on Tammy,

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2 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Whereas I’m not arguing that he had a shocker - it was a deserved win for them. 

Rubbish..daylight robbery.?..

Perfectly good goal scrubbed,,,softest penalty in living memory,,,,80%decisions given to Villa -i know Max had a blinder but you can't 'detract from the facts..

Were you there??

 

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Lots on the pen (never a pen) but there was plenty else. 7 cards? How did he manage that, in what was never a dirty game. One, arguably two, were for perfectly good challenges that didn't even warrant a free kick, never mind a card. Just dreadful officials today.

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Having seen that “highlight”, what an absolutely dreadful decision. Hunt’s arms are around him as he’s being backed into, but his hands are not making any contact and the player’s not being held or prevented from moving in any way other than the fact he has backed in so much. If anything, it’s a foul for obstructing Hunt and I can see why Diedhou and O’Leary got booked for protesting.

It’s an absolute disgrace that changed the game. However, it also gives us bulletin board material for the final games and could fire us up.

Two tough games for us coming up, but it’s the same for Derby. Birmingham away will be tough and god knows which QPR will turn up. Wouldn’t expect either team to get all 6 points, setting it up nicely for Lampard to visit Ashton Gate.

I predict four points for City, Boro and Derby from the next two, meaning it will be City on 69 points (nice), Boro on 68 and Derby on 67 going into that game. I fancy us to win it quite comfortably, but also feel we’ll struggle at Millwall. Reading getting something at Boro could really help us be motivated for Millwall.

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EFL constantly ram RESPECT down everyone’s throats, but when are the EFL going to ensure these “professional” officials are good enough to earn that respect - it’s not downs football on Sunday am is it?

Same clowns over and over don’t have the integrity or the guts to give the correct decisions 

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3 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Whereas I’m not arguing that he had a shocker - it was a deserved win for them. 

Why? Because the ref set the tone, dodgy pen and all the other issues with the bookings we couldn't defend normally. Shocking display by what is supposed to be a neutral official, this could result in the club not winning promotion, but hey ho it's only 'lil Bristol City, yeah well deserved, I do wonder if you actually support this football club at times.

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5 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

Whereas I’m not arguing that he had a shocker - it was a deserved win for them. 

Arguable there was nothing in the game up to that point, you try playing football when you've been kicked in the bo***x!!!

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Andi Weimann goal debatable offside.  OK that was the Lino's call.

Penalty decision - No way was that ever a penalty.  Their player backing into ours and then handles the ball (I thought he had given a free kick for handball). That was happening all over the pitch today with no action taken.

A lot (OK huge amount) of inconsistent decision making where fouls and bookings were given against us when similar offences by Villa players went unpunished.

6 bookings to us plus 2 bookings to our coaching staff versus 1 Villa booking.  Clearly not a representation of how the game was played.

Probably the most inept refereeing performance I have seen in over 50 years of watching City.

Will he be sacked, suspended or even repremanded? No. The EFL Guild of corrupt refereeing will see to that.

Will we ever recover the point (or points we were denied? No

Will we be denied our rightful playoff spot as a result? Probably.

And to cap it all, I believe that if you get that many yellow cards in a game, the club gets fined too.

I thought that referees collecting brown envelopes stuffed with cash after a game was stopped years ago.

Am I angry, I'm bloody maddened.

I've seen some bloody awful rererees over the years, but what I saw today was unbelievable. I hope HMRC are checking his declared income versus his lifestyle. 

The difference between the two teams today was the referee. This is why VR is unfortunately so neccessary.

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11 hours ago, maxjak said:

If you take away the penalty, which i have now watched 5 times on Sky, and still can't work out why it was given, then Villa scored once.........we also scored once.  It's bad enough putting up with incompetent officials, without having to read absurd statements like 'Villa definitely deserved the win' WTF, NO they did not  ? ?

I don't think its an absurd statement at all, they created a lot of good chances in the second half and O'Leary made some great saves to keep us in it. 

Agree the ref was horrendous though.

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12 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

I have seen a few people say Villa deserved the win. I think you have to he absolutely braindead to have that opinion. The fact that the “penalty” changed the game. The fact that city players could not challenge aerially without a good chance of a foul being given. The fact that the softest of fouls will get you a yellow card or be sent off. The fact that almost every time we seemed to get in a good position the ref would find some offence to whistle against us. 

You don’t think that affects the players? You don’t think that affects the tactics? Villa looked most dangerous in the lead and last 10 minutes when they could counter us because we threw pretty much 8 bodies forward. Their second goal was good football and that is why I’d say a draw would have been fair but never can i say they deserved it. Yes Max kept us in it at times but again those times were after a terrible penalty and when we had to throw bodies forward. 

As @AppyDAZE has said - post of the day. A fitting summary of the balance of play today that completely nails how the game developed. I cannot stress enough for those not there that until the penalty it was the archetypal City away day, in control, cagey and finding plenty of room on the break and always more likely to sneak it. Totally changed when everything went against us and clear ref has an agenda. Wish I'd seen this earlier as would have saved me trying to get a belated match report out that I had been too angry and too busy drinking, to finish.

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