Silvio Dante Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Very, very marginal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyhutchscurlymullet Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I reckon the guy trying to block the cross is at least level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Point being, if that was Villa it’s a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Point being, if that was Villa it’s a goal. Or two plus a City sending off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Thought at the time has was just off, now think he is just on. It’s his head v the planted back leg of the second Villa defender shown in the box furthest away. It is tight to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Offside I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge1981 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Looks marginally off to me so great decision from the lino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted April 13, 2019 Admin Share Posted April 13, 2019 Onside but can understand the reason the linesman didn't think so as Andi was ahead of his marker and was a long way from the guy marginally playing him on, himself blocking the view of that player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Looks offside from footage but not a great angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Look again. His shadow is offside. Does that count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Very close call. Looks level (just about) in the picture, but in real time might have looked different. Commentators on RB seemed surprised it was disallowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Looking at that angle there’s no way the linesman can tell whether he offside or not. The defender at the far post on Lino’s side is the important one. Lino takes a guess imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 If it’s Villa a goal city disallowed for off side. We do not have parachute payments. Officials tend to lean towards the ex premier league sides / so called big clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Goch Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Whatever happened to advantage to the attacker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 what is interesting, if you watch the video, the far defender thinks it's a goal as he is shaking his head until he looks around and sees the linesman's flag, rather than an initial reaction thats its offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: what is interesting, if you watch the video, the far defender thinks it's a goal as he is shaking his head until he looks around and sees the linesman's flag, rather than an initial reaction thats its offside Players reactions tell you a lot. Bearing in mind how much players moan, thats a significant indicator of the truth. It wasnt offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Looking at the photo it is a very tight one. However on this occasion I think the linesman got this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Looking at the photo it is a very tight one. However on this occasion I think the linesman got this right. I disagree. I am looking on an iPhone so slightly limited. However the player blocking is facing pack with his foot planted on or just inside the cut line as Weimann is running in. Therefore it looks to me like they are level and thus onside. Particularly as the benefit should go to the striker. The only thing is was Weimann being flagged for offside earlier in the build up. But I don’t think so! LJ was going nuts as were the coaching team. Bad decision by a linesman compounded by a homer ref scared of the crowd. Luck will even its self out over a season but we are owed a slice of our own I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeneys Penalties Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 no idea,,, and it doesnt matter now. We lost 2-1...move on and get behind the team on Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Difficult to blame a lino (although surely they should only flag if they know it's off?) they have an almost impossible job in real time. Refs imagining fouls for pens on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Weimann's 4th disallowed goal of the season I make that. The one at Nottingham Forest was a joke. Clearly onside. One v Swansea and today looked very marginal. What about Derby away? Never either seen that one or even any pictures of it. Definitely offside I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghornred Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Weimann's 4th disallowed goal of the season I make that. The one at Nottingham Forest was a joke. Clearly onside. One v Swansea and today looked very marginal. What about Derby away? Never either seen that one or even any pictures of it. Definitely offside I assume? Derby was definitely onside too, could be a crucial one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipdawg Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I lose track of what the rules are these days. If it's 'any part of his body' in front of the last man then he's off. If it's 'daylight' then he's on. Personally, I think he's onside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Looks level to me, or at least close enough that the linesman should give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker. But, to be fair, I’ve often thought tight offside decisions are basically impossible for a linesman. He needs to be looking at the ball at the precise moment it is kicked, while simulataneously looking at the position of players in a different area of the pitch. That’s impossible. A tight decision will always be a bit of a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Looks level to me, or at least close enough that the linesman should give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker. But, to be fair, I’ve often thought tight offside decisions are basically impossible for a linesman. He needs to be looking at the ball at the precise moment it is kicked, while simulataneously looking at the position of players in a different area of the pitch. That’s impossible. A tight decision will always be a bit of a guess. It's either level or marginally offside. Not exactly a terrible call unlike the penalty was. And as you say, its an almost impossible job for the lino at the speeds the game is played. Whether Villa would have been given the benefit of the doubt - not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 19 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Very, very marginal.... After the Wigan game I stuck up for the Linesman , because of the angle and the side he was on. Taylor would have been obscuring the Wigan defender. This is the opposite and he still gets it wrong. Tight or not, amazing how many of these have gone against us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Very, very marginal.... Freeze framing it as the player is about to kick the ball is not an entirely true reflection of what a linesman sees, a Lino will see the ball get played and a split second later will look across the line. That’s when his/her decision is made. Anyone who has run the line will know what I’m talking about. That split second can make a massive difference, a defender steps up or an attacker goes forward, such a tough job to do. Dont get me wrong, I wish the Lino had kept his flag down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 hours ago, Silvio Dante said: Very, very marginal.... Look at the right leg of the Villa defender trying to block the cross. I reckon that, and that alone, is playing Weimann onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I've no idea how accurate that red line is someone drew. Either way it is a marginal decision that went against us - it happens. What was really not acceptable was the pen decision but then we had similar at home to QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 56 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Was wondering the scores at the times of these incorrect offsides, and just scores if they hadn't been given. So yesterday 0-0 at time of it. Result had it not been scratched off 2-2 (although football isn't that simple and the whole game would have taken a different path). Whole different path agreed. Can kind of forgive the linesman getting it wrong yesterday- that was a real tight call! In real time even more so. Penalty though? Disgrace about sums it up for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, chipdawg said: I lose track of what the rules are these days. If it's 'any part of his body' in front of the last man then he's off. If it's 'daylight' then he's on. Personally, I think he's onside I thought it was " when the moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars" then he's onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Derby was definitely onside too, could be a crucial one We don't seem to be getting much from officials this season... Derby one, odd how there's no footage online or even this forum. Or even a still picture. Going to watch that game back at some stage, when was it (roughly), ie around which minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We don't seem to be getting much from officials this season... Derby one, odd how there's no footage online or even this forum. Or even a still picture. Going to watch that game back at some stage, when was it (roughly), ie around which minute? Midway through second half, heres the live reaction https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/198468-derby-county-v-bristol-city-match-day-23/page/6/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Doesn’t matter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Will VAR have to become the norm in the championship? We have suffered the inconsistent idiot officials for years, as have many other clubs, is it worth the delays in the game to achieve fairness? The points we have lost this season could well end up costing us. If we can’t have decent officials on the pitch, is it time to push for the insurance of technology? Has to be a good time to start the discussion when we have a seat at the top table in the EFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: Weimann must be thinking he's been cursed this season. 10 goals scored I think, plus 4 wrongly ruled out, plus a couple correctly ruled out. It isn't often someone reaches double figures in goals with over a third of what they have scored has been ruled out. Especially considering he was on something like 15 goals in 130 Championship games before signing for us. It's 4 in total. Anything up to 4 incorrectly ruled out. I make it Derby away, Nottingham Forest away, Swansea at home and Saturday at Aston Villa. At least 2 and maybe all 4 of those legit- would have to watch each one individually Regards his prior record...don't forget he has played along the front line at varied clubs and his versatility is a strength and weakness. 15 goals yes, but factor in assists and it looks a bit better IMO. https://www.whoscored.com/Players/80719/History/Andreas-Weimann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 14/04/2019 at 14:17, JamesBCFC said: Was wondering the scores at the times of these incorrect offsides, and just scores if they hadn't been given. So yesterday 0-0 at time of it. Result had it not been scratched off 2-2 (although football isn't that simple and the whole game would have taken a different path). Think Swansea and Nottingham Forest games 0-0, Derby cannot recall and 1-0 yesterday of course. Would debate whether all 4 were onside, but regardless denied at least 2 goals I'd suggest and maybe 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 17:46, bobbyhutchscurlymullet said: I reckon the guy trying to block the cross is at least level Agree....his outstretched leg looks very close to being in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 13/04/2019 at 22:22, Mr Popodopolous said: Weimann's 4th disallowed goal of the season I make that. The one at Nottingham Forest was a joke. Clearly onside. One v Swansea and today looked very marginal. What about Derby away? Never either seen that one or even any pictures of it. Definitely offside I assume? Forest one- well onside Swansea one- close one thought it was off but don’t think he had too many complaints about it. Derby away- can’t actually remember that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Flint says No said: Forest one- well onside Swansea one- close one thought it was off but don’t think he had too many complaints about it. Derby away- can’t actually remember that one Was clearly onside at Nottingham Forest- how the linesman got that one wrong?? Swansea one, I'd have to look back at. Tend to agree. Derby away, it's in the match thread for when we played them just before Christmas. Consensus on there seemed to be on! Saturday? Cannot make up my mind. Oh and Pisano v QPR was curious. To get all 5 disallowed is very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Was clearly onside at Nottingham Forest- how the linesman got that one wrong?? Swansea one, I'd have to look back at. Tend to agree. Derby away, it's in the match thread for when we played them just before Christmas. Consensus on there seemed to be on! Saturday? Cannot make up my mind. Oh and Pisano v QPR was curious. To get all 5 disallowed is very strange. Pisanos disallowed goal quite simply should’ve stood. If had to pick one that we should’ve got it would be that one however the ref did us a favour and gave us a penalty that was very controversial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 14 hours ago, Flint says No said: Pisanos disallowed goal quite simply should’ve stood. If had to pick one that we should’ve got it would be that one however the ref did us a favour and gave us a penalty that was very controversial Evened out didn't it! Wrong call, bad call aka Pisano's goal...penalty gained cancelled out in a sense- 2 wrongs don't often make a right but could be argued that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: The QPR penalty wasn't even that controversial. Vaguely remember on the highlights show it was looked at a few times and they agreed it's a penalty Well it was doubtful as I recall- questionable anyway. The Weimann goal, or disallowed goal I should say- watched it back several times and just cannot decide...at real time, or even retrospectively it is definitely no howler. Very tight either way- usually some of them go for you, some against- but not for him this season, 2 wrongly disallowed and 2 open to interpretation! Throw in the Pisano goal, the dodgy dodgy penalty Saturday- well I say dodgy, joke more like, and of course Tettey's failure to get a second yellow which would have meant red card at AG when he could have been off twice, or thrice when we were on top v Norwich in December- well it's fair to say we are doing it the hard way and not just because of a poor start but through officials too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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