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One of the most exciting Premier League title races for ages (well, since the Foxes bagged it), and wait, don't think we've had a thread about the race.

Since November I've wanted Liverpool to win it, mainly because of the quality and intensity of their football, led by the stunning talent of their attack.

Also, I'm bored by Money Man City bagging endless league titles, even though I accept they are an incredible team and will fully merit the win, if they succeed.

I'm still going for Liverpool, although it is hard to see where City will drop points.  Will Ole's Man U restore some pride in the Manc derby, after their poor defeat to the Toffees, or perhaps they prefer Man City to win instead of their more hated rivals?  Whatever happens, both teams will likely finish with over 95 points, which sounds insane.  It's like having two championship winning teams playing in the same season.

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Please be Man City. If Liverpool win their fans will be unbearable, I can already see it - best title win ever, against all odds, best football ever, klopp is God.

Its almost as if they haven't spent an absolute fortune. 

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3 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Please be Man City. If Liverpool win their fans will be unbearable, I can already see it - best title win ever, against all odds, best football ever, klopp is God.

Its almost as if they haven't spent an absolute fortune. 

I work with too many middle age Liverpool "fans".They are pretty full of themselves even when they are doing poorly.They will be a nightmare if Liverpool win it.

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22 minutes ago, sglosbcfc said:

I think Manchester City will win it, they just shade Liverpool for squad quality. Liverpool need United to spring a derby shock, which in an intense derby can happen despite City have much more quality than United.

You may be right, unless Man U quickly get their heads up, I wouldn't be surprised if City win something like 5-0 at Old Trafford.  If they do, then there will be little Liverpool can do to stop them.

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I actually think Man City could get unstuck at Burnley more than Man U.  Also don’t discount Newcastle being a tough game for Liverpool regardless of Rafa’s affections. 

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11 minutes ago, TomF said:

I actually think Man City could get unstuck at Burnley more than Man U.  Also don’t discount Newcastle being a tough game for Liverpool regardless of Rafa’s affections. 

Looking at the Newcastle game in the Liverpool fixture list, it's in between the Barcelona games, so will be a tricky one for the players / staff.  As a neutral, hope it will be one of their famous 4-3 scores!

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19 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

Got to be Liverpool for me, couldn't care less about either club but don't want to see man city win it again with all the oil money

What sort of age range are you? Not questioning your knowledge more the people you may associate with, IMO anyone over 35 would not want Liverpool to win it. 

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5 minutes ago, Pezo said:

What sort of age range are you? Not questioning your knowledge more the people you may associate with, IMO anyone over 35 would not want Liverpool to win it. 

I'm WELL over 35 and I want Liverpool to win it.

 

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10 minutes ago, Pezo said:

What sort of age range are you? Not questioning your knowledge more the people you may associate with, IMO anyone over 35 would not want Liverpool to win it. 

Why do you say that?

Both sides are very good this season, Man City have greater squad depth than Liverpool but maybe Liverpool are more exciting to watch when really on top form.

I suspect the fact that Man City are out of the Champions Cup, could swing it their way but would prefer Liverpool to win it.

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Just now, downendcity said:

I'm WELL over 35 and I want Liverpool to win it.

Fair enough then, do you know any Liverpool supporters that only watch them on the TV or magically appear in good seasons? Have you tried watching a Liverpool game in a pub? 

There's definitely something that defines a reason not to want them to win it that your clearly not experiencing ??

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9 minutes ago, downendcity said:

I'm WELL over 35 and I want Liverpool to win it.

 

I’m well over 55 and I want Liverpool to win it as well.

Its not often I want Man Utd to win anything but I’d love to see them beat Man City on Wednesday.

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17 minutes ago, Pezo said:

What sort of age range are you? Not questioning your knowledge more the people you may associate with, IMO anyone over 35 would not want Liverpool to win it. 

I'm under 35, by a few years... 

Tbh none of my friend group are Liverpool or man city fans, mainly because I avoid any 'fans' of top 6 clubs as I find them on the whole unbearable... 

A few people in my family are man city or Liverpool fans, but have been for many years and to be honest they aren't too bad, especially the man city fans who have been through league one and the championship and so feel priveleged to be in their position. 

The problem I have is how man city, much like Chelsea, have made their way to the top table through investing hundreds of millions which to me isn't right. At least rhe lies of Liverpool and man united have been there for enough time to be secure in their position. 

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2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

Why do you say that?

Both sides are very good this season, Man City have greater squad depth than Liverpool but maybe Liverpool are more exciting to watch when really on top form.

I suspect the fact that Man City are out of the Champions Cup, could swing it their way but would prefer Liverpool to win it.

Because under 35 you may not know any Liverpool fans that remember the glory years and talk about them like they were last season. 

I don't really know many Man C fans and the one I do know appreciates what's happened in the background for them to get to where they are, it's not all about the money (they could have pissed it up the wall and gone galactic style) but the money has given them the infrastructure and players and stepped the whole English game forward. 

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1 hour ago, Pezo said:

Please be Man City. If Liverpool win their fans will be unbearable, I can already see it - best title win ever, against all odds, best football ever, klopp is God.

Its almost as if they haven't spent an absolute fortune. 

Definitely this. 75m for vvd, 65m?for gk, 60ish for keita. So probably not far behind city's team cost. 

But the fans would be the worst thing if they won 

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17 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Fair enough then, do you know any Liverpool supporters that only watch them on the TV or magically appear in good seasons? Have you tried watching a Liverpool game in a pub? 

There's definitely something that defines a reason not to want them to win it that your clearly not experiencing ??

Have you ever lived in Liverpool or Manchester?

 

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14 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

I'm under 35, by a few years... 

Tbh none of my friend group are Liverpool or man city fans, mainly because I avoid any 'fans' of top 6 clubs as I find them on the whole unbearable... 

A few people in my family are man city or Liverpool fans, but have been for many years and to be honest they aren't too bad, especially the man city fans who have been through league one and the championship and so feel priveleged to be in their position. 

The problem I have is how man city, much like Chelsea, have made their way to the top table through investing hundreds of millions which to me isn't right. At least rhe lies of Liverpool and man united have been there for enough time to be secure in their position. 

Liverpool were doing exactly the same thing 30-40 years ago, albeit with much smaller (but relative) sums, of course.

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21 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Fair enough then, do you know any Liverpool supporters that only watch them on the TV or magically appear in good seasons? Have you tried watching a Liverpool game in a pub? 

There's definitely something that defines a reason not to want them to win it that your clearly not experiencing ??

In my experience Liverpool fans seem to be the more faithful of the premier league fans I know. Won relatively little in my 30 year life time but still support them and are passionate. For me I’d love to see Liverpool win it over City

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1 minute ago, The Gasbuster said:

Liverpool were doing exactly the same thing 30-40 years ago, albeit with much smaller (but relative) sums, of course.

I wouldn't know tbh. 

But growing up in my era, Liverpool have always felt like a big club, with a big fanbase whilst man city feel like upstarts who wouldn't be there if it weren't for the Arab money. 

That being said, it's great to have a competitive Premier league for once, especially when it doesn't include the detestable man united... 

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1 hour ago, Pezo said:

Please be Man City. If Liverpool win their fans will be unbearable, I can already see it - best title win ever, against all odds, best football ever, klopp is God.

Its almost as if they haven't spent an absolute fortune. 

 

19 minutes ago, paul_fox said:

Definitely this. 75m for vvd, 65m?for gk, 60ish for keita. So probably not far behind city's team cost. 

But the fans would be the worst thing if they won 

It’s a choice between oil money or yank money.... tough choice. 

Ahh this wouldn’t be a problem next year when Guernsey Tax Free money storms the league :banana:

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39 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I’m well over 55 and I want Liverpool to win it as well.

Its not often I want Man Utd to win anything but I’d love to see them beat Man City on Wednesday.

What has your waist measurement got to do with anything.

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38 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Man City for me . Liverpool’s army of plastic fans do my head in . We could win the league we could win the champions league. WE you’re from downend mate 

It's annoying, my local had the Liverpool game on the other week with the sound on and big screen, our game was on the little telly in the corner with no sound on, there was me and 3 others watching City v WBA and about 20 watching Liverpool Porto, just can't understand why you would rather watch them than your local team.

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Just now, pillred said:

It's annoying, my local had the Liverpool game on the other week with the sound on and big screen, our game was on the little telly in the corner with no sound on, there was me and 3 others watching City v WBA and about 20 watching Liverpool Porto, just can't understand why you would rather watch them than your local team.

You did well, my local wouldn't let me watch the away game at wba as both screens had Liverpool on. 

Ridiculous... 

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I don’t really give a toss who wins it. 

Liverpool deserve credit for taking such a quality Man City squad all the way to the final games. I think Man City will Win it. 

The only thing that makes it interesting for me is that Man Utd basically have to hand it to one of either if their biggest rivals in Wednesday..!

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2 hours ago, Pezo said:

Because under 35 you may not know any Liverpool fans that remember the glory years and talk about them like they were last season. 

I don't really know many Man C fans and the one I do know appreciates what's happened in the background for them to get to where they are, it's not all about the money (they could have pissed it up the wall and gone galactic style) but the money has given them the infrastructure and players and stepped the whole English game forward. 

Then again my generation (1980s child) probably hate Man U for the success in the 90s and the amount of plastics that appeared then. It’ll change through the years - what happened to all the Chelsea fans going on coaches from Devon each week 5-10 years ago? In 5-10 years time if Man C continue to dominate we’ll be as sick of them as many were of Liverpool in 70-80s 

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2 hours ago, JBFC II said:

I wouldn't know tbh. 

But growing up in my era, Liverpool have always felt like a big club, with a big fanbase whilst man city feel like upstarts who wouldn't be there if it weren't for the Arab money. 

That being said, it's great to have a competitive Premier league for once, especially when it doesn't include the detestable man united... 

Going back to our years in the old first division, Man City were one of the few teams that their supporters filled the entire open end. They were a club that were getting 30k plus in ( what’s now) league one, they are far from ‘upstarts’. 

Yes the oil money has taken them to another level, but they have always been  a massive club, with local support.

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7 minutes ago, Benjiman_LFC said:

I'm praying for a miracle. I was 12 the last time we won the title. It's been a painful 29 years. Newcastle away will be very tough for us though. 

It's mad to think that the premier league was once won with 75 points.

If you’re a Liverpool fan, why are you posting on here?

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1 hour ago, Benjiman_LFC said:

I'm praying for a miracle. I was 12 the last time we won the title. It's been a painful 29 years. Newcastle away will be very tough for us though. 

It's mad to think that the premier league was once won with 75 points.

It's mad to think the premier league used to be the first division and was  won, more than once,  by a team(s) of all British players and players who couldn't afford to retire when aged 25!

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58 minutes ago, Benjiman_LFC said:

Liverpool born now live in Bristol. I bring my nephew to home games at Ashton Gate. Is there something wrong with taking an interest in your local team? 

Not at all, I was just curious as to why a Liverpool fan would be posting on OTIB.

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5 hours ago, Pezo said:

What sort of age range are you? Not questioning your knowledge more the people you may associate with, IMO anyone over 35 would not want Liverpool to win it. 

Yes agree mate so what hes saying if lansdown by some miracle threw the boat out next year and brought in the quality needed he wouldnt want it cause its billionaires money.

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1 hour ago, downendcity said:

It's mad to think the premier league used to be the first division and was  won, more than once,  by a team(s) of all British players and players who couldn't afford to retire when aged 25!

It's also mad to think that I paid about £3.50 on the day to watch Liverpool vs Chelsea on the Kop in 1991 (adult price was about £7). Its almost £50 (adult) now If you can by some miracle get one. I believe all kids tickets are £9 though.

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7 hours ago, paul_fox said:

Definitely this. 75m for vvd, 65m?for gk, 60ish for keita. So probably not far behind city's team cost. 

But the fans would be the worst thing if they won 

Over the past 5 years, Liverpool are 6th in the net spend league.

Man City - £563m

Man U - £484m

Arsenal - £260m

Everton - £224m

Chelsea - £205m

Liverpool - £194m

West Ham - £168m

Bournemouth - £157m

Crystal Palace - £144m

Brighton - £134m

Leicester - £133m

 

 

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30 minutes ago, hotwellsred said:

Over the past 5 years, Liverpool are 6th in the net spend league.

Man City - £563m

Man U - £484m

Arsenal - £260m

Everton - £224m

Chelsea - £205m

Liverpool - £194m

West Ham - £168m

Bournemouth - £157m

Crystal Palace - £144m

Brighton - £134m

Leicester - £133m

 

 

That is a truly frightening (and depressing) list. When football does inevitably eat itself what is going to happen then?

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36 minutes ago, hotwellsred said:

Over the past 5 years, Liverpool are 6th in the net spend league.

Man City - £563m

Man U - £484m

Arsenal - £260m

Everton - £224m

Chelsea - £205m

Liverpool - £194m

West Ham - £168m

Bournemouth - £157m

Crystal Palace - £144m

Brighton - £134m

Leicester - £133m

 

 

Pretty good although helped with a few big sells. Can't remember City selling anyone for big money? 

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I would prefer to see Liverpool win the title but think they will slip up against Newcastle which is sandwiched between their 2 Barcelone games.

I have a sneaking feeling they will get past Barca and win the Champions League which will be some comfort for failing to win the League with 94/95 points.

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1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Why shouldn’t @Benjiman_LFC post on here? Do you want it to be a closed shop like GasChat where every non-roverzzz fan is banned immediately?! And if you’re a Bristol City fan why are you posting on a thread about Liverpool and Man City?

Did I say he shouldn’t post here? I was just curious as to why he was posting here. Get down off your High Horse.

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