robintherobin Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). 8) Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curr Avon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, robintherobin said: OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! That deserves a round of applause...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, robintherobin said: OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! Really admire your enthusiasm and upbeat attitude! But quoting our away record in 2019 compared to Derby’s isn’t really relevant - because we are playing them at home. Perhaps the fact that we’ve won only ONE home game since February 12 is a bit more relevant, and concerning ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, BS4 on Tour... said: Really admire your enthusiasm and upbeat attitude! But quoting our away record in 2019 compared to Derby’s isn’t really relevant - because we are playing them at home. Perhaps the fact that we’ve won only ONE home game since February 12 is a bit more relevant, and concerning ... Which was against West brom, a side similar to Derby in many respects. Our home record is so poor because we fail to break down sides who stick men behind the ball and give us little room. I heavily doubt Derby will do that, they'll know that they need to win to keep them in 6th and boost their play off chances and so they'll come at us, which is when we are at our best. In the run you've stated, we've only played 2 top 10 teams, Leeds (who were excellent) and West Brom (who we won against), the rest of the sides were lower mid table/ relegation strugglers and so they felt more inclined to play more defensively and hit us on the break, something we struggle against. Personally, I think our home record goes out the window on Saturday. We have a massive chance against a team who will go for it as well. It's going to be massive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, robintherobin said: OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! ... or as someone else on this forum would say: Condensed version: Anything could still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmissionImpossible Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Really admire your enthusiasm and upbeat attitude! But quoting our away record in 2019 compared to Derby’s isn’t really relevant - because we are playing them at home. Perhaps the fact that we’ve won only ONE home game since February 12 is a bit more relevant, and concerning ... Doesn’t change the fact Derby have an awful away record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Calculus said: ... or as someone else on this forum would say: Condensed version: Anything could still happen. And probably will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I may be a fickle fan, but bugger our poor home form, its a three game season and if we can't get excited about a chance to get in the Championship play-offs for the first time in 11 years, what's the point in watching City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 We MUST win against derby & Millwall to stand a realistic chance imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 A reason to be cheerful is that IF we beat Derby its back in our hands. We both have tough remaining games but theres is arguably tougher. Such a big moment in our season on sat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elhombrecito Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said: A reason to be cheerful is that IF we beat Derby its back in our hands. We both have tough remaining games but theres is arguably tougher. Such a big moment in our season on sat! Well, it already is in our hands. Win our games and we'll be in the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Win the next 6 games and we’ll be in the PREMIERSHIP - regardless of the other results. We may even be able to afford to draw one of them!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespa Red Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Summer Buddy Holly, The Working Folly Good Golly Miss Molly And Boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, robintherobin said: OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! Pay day tomorrow, so I`m bubbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, EmissionImpossible said: Doesn’t change the fact Derby have an awful away record. And we’re awful at home. Bet it’ll be a cracker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, robintherobin said: OK, so we didn't play well enough to take anything from the game at Sheffield Wednesday, but it's not all doom and gloom. Here are some reasons to be cheerful .. (actually there's seven) 1) It's still in our own hands - win our next three games and we're in the play-offs. 2) If we beat Derby and then match the results of Middlesbrough and Derby's last two games that will be enough. I don't see both sides winning their last two matches based on current form. 3) Last season we beat Derby 4-1 at home. https://youtu.be/Gm5LOn9ykaA?t=340 4) Derby haven't won an away league game in 2019 (FYI, we've won 5: Stoke, Forest, Blackburn, Sheffield United and Middlesbrough.) 5) Derby's game in hand is away to Swansea, who still have a chance of making the top six if they beat Hull on Saturday (whatever the results elsewhere). And Swansea have won their last seven home matches against Championship opposition in a row, scoring 20 goals and conceding only 6. 6) Our game in hand is away to Millwall, who are likely to be safe by then even if they lose on Saturday. They have a three point and 15 goal advantage over Rotherham (who have to travel to WBA in their next game). 7) Hull can't make the play-offs so will have nothing to play for against us (or Swansea). Derby's final game is against WBA, who will be looking over their shoulders at Villa and not wanting to give away home advantage in the second leg. 9) Middlesbrough's next game is against not-quite-safe yet Reading, who have frustrated us, WBA and Norwich as well as beating Brentford in their last four games. Of course we still have a lot to do. But it is do-able. COYR! After reading that I could crush a grape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireSection Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, EmissionImpossible said: Doesn’t change the fact Derby have an awful away record. .....or the fact that our home record is awful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hantsred Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Results against Derby and Millwall and then all set for Sunday May 5th 2019 that we can shake the Windass monkey of our bank and finally pay back Hull for the memories some 11 years ago! ALWAYS BELIEVE (until the reality kills you ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigate Red Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Perhaps the fact that we’ve won only ONE home game since February 12 is a bit more relevant, and concerning ... I knew our home form was not so good but seven years with one win - no wonder it's a bit quiet at AG I have though bought into this everything is possible scenario and have tickets for both Derby & Millwall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 hours ago, JBFC II said: Which was against West brom, a side similar to Derby in many respects. Our home record is so poor because we fail to break down sides who stick men behind the ball and give us little room. I heavily doubt Derby will do that, they'll know that they need to win to keep them in 6th and boost their play off chances and so they'll come at us, which is when we are at our best. In the run you've stated, we've only played 2 top 10 teams, Leeds (who were excellent) and West Brom (who we won against), the rest of the sides were lower mid table/ relegation strugglers and so they felt more inclined to play more defensively and hit us on the break, something we struggle against. Personally, I think our home record goes out the window on Saturday. We have a massive chance against a team who will go for it as well. It's going to be massive Totally agree JB - but I just fear that when this season is all over we will look back and realise that our home record cost us the chance to do something really special ..... 4 hours ago, EmissionImpossible said: Doesn’t change the fact Derby have an awful away record. ....or the fact we haven’t got a great home record .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 i tried to book my tickets today but the website wouldn’t let me. I recon my membership might have expired. 80110x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Riaz said: We MUST win against derby & Millwall to stand a realistic chance imo Actually, of course it would then be out of our hands, but it’s still, currently, not beyond the realms of all possibility that we could even lose to Derby, and STILL make the play offs..! Crazy division..! A draw or win on Saturday and it’s still very possible, looking at everyone’s fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Personally I'd just love is to beat Derby, we haven't won a weekend game at home since February 2nd so it'd be nice to shed that record. After that, if we end up in 7th I'd be delighted with our season, a good few places higher than expected. I really can't see us being good enough to win the play offs and losing in them might have a hangover effect gong into the next season when instead we can be on the beach resting and feeling really positive about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 5 hours ago, JBFC II said: Which was against West brom, a side similar to Derby in many respects. Our home record is so poor because we fail to break down sides who stick men behind the ball and give us little room. I heavily doubt Derby will do that, they'll know that they need to win to keep them in 6th and boost their play off chances and so they'll come at us, which is when we are at our best. In the run you've stated, we've only played 2 top 10 teams, Leeds (who were excellent) and West Brom (who we won against), the rest of the sides were lower mid table/ relegation strugglers and so they felt more inclined to play more defensively and hit us on the break, something we struggle against. Personally, I think our home record goes out the window on Saturday. We have a massive chance against a team who will go for it as well. It's going to be massive I disagree with you there. The pressure is all on us. A draw leaves Derby sitting pretty and they know how frustrating the Gate can be for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 41 minutes ago, mozo said: I disagree with you there. The pressure is all on us. A draw leaves Derby sitting pretty and they know how frustrating the Gate can be for us. Sorry, I disagree. A draw would leave Derby sweating on the Boro' scoreline and then they visit Swansea who have won their last 7 at the Liberty. Its equal pressure, but we can tip the balance by making the Gate a cauldron of noise. COME. ON. YOU. REEEEEEEEDS!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 A draw would be a great result for derby. No longer in our hands. must win game if there ever was one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Riaz said: A draw would be a great result for derby. No longer in our hands. must win game if there ever was one Weirdly, a draw would be fine for us so long as we then better their result in the game in hand fixtures. That's leaving a lot to chance though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Riaz said: A draw would be a great result for derby. No longer in our hands. must win game if there ever was one A draw would also be the best result for Boro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just beat the f******. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, NOTBLUE said: Just beat the f******. This all day long. Beat Derby and we are in a very strong position. It's games like this I hope for when I buy my season ticket. It's a mini play off final. Can't wait until Saturday. What a day to look forward to. COYR's !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 12 hours ago, mozo said: I disagree with you there. The pressure is all on us. A draw leaves Derby sitting pretty and they know how frustrating the Gate can be for us. Exactly - they won't be coming gung ho - tightly packing midfield to frustrate us n reason why we have poor home record is we don't have the players to overcome that as other teams regularly prove. If we play hi tempo for 90 mins n don't have to start chasing the game in the second half then we are equal to or better than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 31 minutes ago, extonsred said: Exactly - they won't be coming gung ho - tightly packing midfield to frustrate us n reason why we have poor home record is we don't have the players to overcome that as other teams regularly prove. If we play hi tempo for 90 mins n don't have to start chasing the game in the second half then we are equal to or better than most. If they come for a draw they will be committing suicide based on the 2 games they have left. Away to a Swansea side who have won 7 on bounce at home and home v a West Brom side who may need to win at their place to claim 3rd place and avoid Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: If they come for a draw they will be committing suicide based on the 2 games they have left. Away to a Swansea side who have won 7 on bounce at home and home v a West Brom side who may need to win at their place to claim 3rd place and avoid Villa. If you wanted to beat City at Ashton Gate, would you: A) play expansive front foot football from the start and look to overwhelm City? B) keep it tight, frustrate City, quiet down the crowd and play on the break, with spells of pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 26 minutes ago, mozo said: If you wanted to beat City at Ashton Gate, would you: A) play expansive front foot football from the start and look to overwhelm City? B) keep it tight, frustrate City, quiet down the crowd and play on the break, with spells of pressure? B if they come to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: B if they come to win. Yeah I reckon that's how it could be. But I'm hoping for C) early red card, penalty conceded, calamity defending and toothless up front, sending their fans back to Derby convinced that the playoffs are beyond them. Go on Frank, make it happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, mozo said: If you wanted to beat City at Ashton Gate, would you: A) play expansive front foot football from the start and look to overwhelm City? B) keep it tight, frustrate City, quiet down the crowd and play on the break, with spells of pressure? definitely frustrate crowd. Dont take much to do so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, mozo said: Yeah I reckon that's how it could be. But I'm hoping for C) early red card, penalty conceded, calamity defending and toothless up front, sending their fans back to Derby convinced that the playoffs are beyond them. Go on Frank, make it happen... That's pretty much what every Derby fan has been saying after every away game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 We go into our last home game of the season with a chance of Prem football next season . Who wouldn't have taken that at the start of the season? It's in our hands still and us supporters must raise the roof for the boys on Saturday. Let's make the team hear and feel the noise. 100% ecouragement from the first whistle to the last. If we don't let them down then maybe just maybe....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 21 hours ago, Vespa Red said: Summer Buddy Holly, The Working Folly Good Golly Miss Molly And Boats Why don’t you get back into bed? Seriously though, this is such a big game on Saturday. Wish I could be there but I’ll be watching and cheering from many miles away. COYR!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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