Leveller Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Southport Red said: I think it as simple as this; 1) Chelsea sacked their manager and everybody knew FF was coming in 2) Knowing Chelsea were under a transfer embargo, FF said he wanted to run the rule over everyone 3) KP thought he saw a chance to impress and make the Chelsea squad 4) It didn't work out and we said 'Come home" And he said, sure if Swansea don’t want me enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Southport Red said: I think it as simple as this; 1) Chelsea sacked their manager and everybody knew FF was coming in 2) Knowing Chelsea were under a transfer embargo, FF said he wanted to run the rule over everyone 3) KP thought he saw a chance to impress and make the Chelsea squad 4) It didn't work out and we said 'Come home" Exactly, why people think the timing is odd given these circumstances is itself odd. Given the pics of him training in City gear and his kid in the kit I think he would have joined earlier had it not been for Lampard taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Southport Red said: I think it as simple as this; 1) Chelsea sacked their manager and everybody knew FF was coming in 2) Knowing Chelsea were under a transfer embargo, FF said he wanted to run the rule over everyone 3) KP thought he saw a chance to impress and make the Chelsea squad 4) It didn't work out and we said 'Come home" Who’s FF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Tipps69 said: Who’s FF? Sorry. Fat Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Tipps69 said: Who’s FF? Frank frampard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxo Jr. Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Who’s FF? Well our good friend Frank Flampard of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: Who’s FF? His surname is Sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipps69 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Southport Red said: Sorry. Fat Frank I wish I was as ‘Fat’ as him, if he’s considered ‘Fat’! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said: Maybe I missed something but it seemed pretty clear to me that we were in for him then Lampard/Chelsea wanted to take a look at him pre season. He obviously wasn't going to turn that opportunity down and move. Perhaps, I'm not ruling out that we took a look and were "in for him" early on in the year - but for whatever reason we clearly gave up at some point. Perhaps it's just that this signing doesn't excite me much. We had him here last season and whilst he's clearly got quality he didn't fix the problems we had in January - the same problems we still have now. He's not the "proven number 9" that we need nor is he a box to box midfielder who can command and control the centre of the pitch where we so often lose possession. I just cannot shake the feeling that this is a marriage of convenience that appeases fans by ticking the box of getting a player in, is safe for the club because everyone knows what they are dealing with and gives KP an income for at least 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: To me it smells like we wanted to sign KP permanently at the end of the season but gave up on it when it looked as though he might be going to another club (presumably as we couldn't match their personal terms). I guess we moved on to other targets and decided to just keep tabs on how KP's summer progressed. We've been frustrated this summer and perhaps one or two of our preferred deals have fallen through. So, as deadline day approaches and KP becomes available...we swoop. Seems as though perhaps both the club and the player have "settled" for a move that might not have been either's number one choice. However, the familiarity means that we have a good foundation to build on. I could be absolutely 100% wrong on all of this but he timing and style of the signing (assuming it is happening) seem odd as you say. LJ has said more than once that he would like 2 strikers or a striker plus somebody who can create chances. Our play too often peters out around the box and I reckon LJ thinks Palmer can make a difference to that. Of course if we get the Webster money we might still get that second striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, chinapig said: LJ has said more than once that he would like 2 strikers or a striker plus somebody who can create chances. Our play too often peters out around the box and I reckon LJ thinks Palmer can make a difference to that. Of course if we get the Webster money we might still get that second striker. Thats what @Kid in the Riot is indicating FWIW I don’t think KP was high in our list but something has triggered us to swoop Webster money? KP becoming available and wanting s perm ? LJ thinking SS may need some time to adjust ? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Perhaps, I'm not ruling out that we took a look and were "in for him" early on in the year - but for whatever reason we clearly gave up at some point. Perhaps it's just that this signing doesn't excite me much. We had him here last season and whilst he's clearly got quality he didn't fix the problems we had in January - the same problems we still have now. He's not the "proven number 9" that we need nor is he a box to box midfielder who can command and control the centre of the pitch where we so often lose possession. I just cannot shake the feeling that this is a marriage of convenience that appeases fans by ticking the box of getting a player in, is safe for the club because everyone knows what they are dealing with and gives KP an income for at least 12 months. We didn't give up, LJ said they were staying in touch. We had to wait to see how things panned out for him at Chelsea. He then had to decide between Swansea, where he would have less competition for a place but who wouldn't commit to a permanent deal, and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thats what @Kid in the Riot is indicating FWIW I don’t think KP was high in our list but something has triggered us to swoop Webster money? KP becoming available and wanting s perm ? LJ thinking SS may need some time to adjust ? ??? I thought it was the ladies who wanted KPs sperm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thats what @Kid in the Riot is indicating FWIW I don’t think KP was high in our list but something has triggered us to swoop Webster money? KP becoming available and wanting s perm ? LJ thinking SS may need some time to adjust ? ??? It’s a weird one because LJ said he very nearly didn’t get Szmodics in because he felt we had enough in that area. So to get Palmer in aswell, makes it a little more interesting. I wonder if Pato is off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, chinapig said: We didn't give up, LJ said they were staying in touch. We had to wait to see how things panned out for him at Chelsea. He then had to decide between Swansea, where he would have less competition for a place but who wouldn't commit to a permanent deal, and us. This. Why all the speculation about other nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, chinapig said: We didn't give up, LJ said they were staying in touch. We had to wait to see how things panned out for him at Chelsea. He then had to decide between Swansea, where he would have less competition for a place but who wouldn't commit to a permanent deal, and us. Believe me, I am more than happy to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thats what @Kid in the Riot is indicating FWIW I don’t think KP was high in our list but something has triggered us to swoop Webster money? KP becoming available and wanting s perm ? LJ thinking SS may need some time to adjust ? ??? I suspect all the things you list apply but especially that the Webster money meant we could afford Palmer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Red Army 75 said: I thought it was the ladies who wanted KPs sperm What an unfortunate mistype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lew-T said: It’s a weird one because LJ said he very nearly didn’t get Szmodics in because he felt we had enough in that area. So to get Palmer in aswell, makes it a little more interesting. I wonder if Pato is off? He said Lew That he did ‘everything he could not to sign Sammie’ , and chuckled realising how that sounded , then explained that he had a bigger budget pencilled in for that signing / role but SS kept hitting everything he wanted when he looked at him and when he spoke to others about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, chinapig said: Exactly, why people think the timing is odd given these circumstances is itself odd. Given the pics of him training in City gear and his kid in the kit I think he would have joined earlier had it not been for Lampard taking over. Absolutely. I think that judging by the pics he posted & messages he sent to Jay Dasilva, he was intending coming here at the start of the transfer window but as you say, Lampard being appointed put that on hold. Due to Johnson wanting a full preseason with him, we then looked elsewhere. It suggests to me that our targets didn’t work out so we’ve gone back for him now. Think it’s a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Tipps69 said: I wish I was as ‘Fat’ as him, if he’s considered ‘Fat’! Same here Tipps, I thought he looked positively anorexic TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: His surname is Sake. Japanese is he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman Block B Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Lots saying a season long loan ? Really? Thought KP wanted a permanent deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalcub Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 So we picked up kp from an unsuccessful loan at blackburn they had dack amongst others so he didnt really play alot , so we took him on loan , lj loves paterson so picked him regardless of form hiding behind the kp's not fit enough and needs a full pre season with city excuse .... lj signs szmodics to rival pato, semenyo in the free role number "10" , so a few days before the season starts lj is looking to sign a player he hardly played and has no time to get fit (his own words) for prob £3.5 mill , after already signing szmodics ? Maybe im losng the plot but i swear we need a STRIKER !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, Dottie said: Absolutely. I think that judging by the pics he posted & messages he sent to Jay Dasilva, he was intending coming here at the start of the transfer window but as you say, Lampard being appointed put that on hold. Due to Johnson wanting a full preseason with him, we then looked elsewhere. It suggests to me that our targets didn’t work out so we’ve gone back for him now. Think it’s a great signing. Yes i'm more than happy to have him back and lets see if LJ can work some magic and get this boy performing as he's obviously got it in his locker....but we got to a get a striker ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, bengalcub said: So we picked up kp from an unsuccessful loan at blackburn they had dack amongst others so he didnt really play alot , so we took him on loan , lj loves paterson so picked him regardless of form hiding behind the kp's not fit enough and needs a full pre season with city excuse .... lj signs szmodics to rival pato, semenyo in the free role number "10" , so a few days before the season starts lj is looking to sign a player he hardly played and has no time to get fit (his own words) for prob £3.5 mill , after already signing szmodics ? Maybe im losng the plot but i swear we need a STRIKER !!!!! Szmodics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Red Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, bengalcub said: So we picked up kp from an unsuccessful loan at blackburn they had dack amongst others so he didnt really play alot , so we took him on loan , lj loves paterson so picked him regardless of form hiding behind the kp's not fit enough and needs a full pre season with city excuse .... lj signs szmodics to rival pato, semenyo in the free role number "10" , so a few days before the season starts lj is looking to sign a player he hardly played and has no time to get fit (his own words) for prob £3.5 mill , after already signing szmodics ? Maybe im losng the plot but i swear we need a STRIKER !!!!! Tbf, he has been playing pretty regularly at Chelsea so fitness not an issue you'd hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Japanese is he ? Your higher intellect is wasted on the forum Major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, bengalcub said: So we picked up kp from an unsuccessful loan at blackburn they had dack amongst others so he didnt really play alot , so we took him on loan , lj loves paterson so picked him regardless of form hiding behind the kp's not fit enough and needs a full pre season with city excuse .... lj signs szmodics to rival pato, semenyo in the free role number "10" , so a few days before the season starts lj is looking to sign a player he hardly played and has no time to get fit (his own words) for prob £3.5 mill , after already signing szmodics ? Maybe im losng the plot but i swear we need a STRIKER !!!!! I'll let LJ and MA know we need a striker. I'm sure they will be grateful for the advice and start looking right away. Should be a doddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, bengalcub said: So we picked up kp from an unsuccessful loan at blackburn they had dack amongst others so he didnt really play alot , so we took him on loan , lj loves paterson so picked him regardless of form hiding behind the kp's not fit enough and needs a full pre season with city excuse .... lj signs szmodics to rival pato, semenyo in the free role number "10" , so a few days before the season starts lj is looking to sign a player he hardly played and has no time to get fit (his own words) for prob £3.5 mill , after already signing szmodics ? Maybe im losng the plot but i swear we need a STRIKER !!!!! Szmodics is a signing like Brownhill or Adelakun. Young player available for a small fee that we can grow. He has probably overachieved this preseason but I don’t think he will be heavily relied on. Semenyo is a striker or wide forward. He is not a “10” Paterson has been here years and of course LJ trusts him. That said if Palmer is coming in permanently he is true competition for Paterson. Paterson however can also play on the left and I prefer him there myself. He may need to play there if COD gets a move. All in all I don’t see why or how you can complain. Palmer is a serious talent who even in spurts here produced goals and assists. Also the club has said numerous times over the last few days we are in for strikers. So keep calm and let the next week happen. Bash the club if no striker then. Otherwise no rush to just get anyone in let us target who we want and get the right one. We have enough to get us through our first match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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