DT The Optimist Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 What do you reckon. I recall from the murky past there are different types of hamstring strains. I am guessing it will be properly looked at very early this week, Bank Holiday or not, at the hospital they use Best case scenario and worst? 4 weeks out ? Wishing for 3 days but......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 He said he reckons a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I didn't see how bad he was. Did it looks so bad it might be a torn hamstring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, RedDave said: He said he reckons a month Source? (Please let this be true!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: What do you reckon. I recall from the murky past there are different types of hamstring strains. I am guessing it will be properly looked at very early this week, Bank Holiday or not, at the hospital they use Best case scenario and worst? 4 weeks out ? Wishing for 3 days but......... Worst case is months unfortunately Packs is a Grade 3 and expected out for 2 months and he wasn’t sprinting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I reckon about six foot two. Maybe nearer six three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 if bakes stays injury free and taylor moore keeps improving im not worried...….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, Red Right Hand said: Source? (Please let this be true!) It would be longer than a month, that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Redpool said: It would be longer than a month, that’s for sure. That`s what I thought - clutching at straws really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Redpool said: It would be longer than a month, that’s for sure. Kalas is a freak though. He was back from a broken jaw in 2 weeks! Hard as ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, archie andrews said: if bakes stays injury free and taylor moore keeps improving im not worried...….. That's my concern, we're now relying on our most injury prone defender . Fingers and toes firmly crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Red Right Hand said: That`s what I thought - clutching at straws really. If he was stretchered off, then it’s more like 8-10 weeks at least. As that would appear to be a grade 3 tear. 8-10 also takes into account getting match fit again. Speaking from my own experience, a grade 3 tear is extremely painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 There are different types or grades of a hamstring injury from a mild strain. Lvl 1 a partial tear lvl 2 and a full muscle tear lvl 3. The higher the grade the longer it takes to heal and if Kalas is grade 3 he’ll be out for several weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Kalas is a freak though. He was back from a broken jaw in 2 weeks! Hard as ****. Doesn’t matter how hard he is. He needs his hamstrings to get about. It’s a pain in the ass rehab process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Redpool said: Doesn’t matter how hard he is. He needs his hamstrings to get about. It’s a pain in the ass rehab process If he says a month...expect him back in a month. Only he knows his own body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I have done it myself and it’s very painful. I was out of action for three months personally but it can vary depending on the severity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, OldlandReddies said: If he says a month...expect him back in a month. Only he knows his own body. It won’t be a month. I will tell you that as a fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Redpool said: It won’t be a month. I will tell you that as a fact Two weeks maybe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, OldlandReddies said: Two weeks maybe?? If only it was that easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Are we even certain it was a hamstring?? Has it been confirmed anywhere?? Thankfully we have an international break coming up. It'll be a real blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Who has said a month? Is this from some guy on twitter who allegedly spoke to TK after the game? I saw a tweet last night, can’t find it now. If so, TK himself wouldn’t know at that point, so I don’t think anyone knows at this point and it’s all speculation. 1 minute ago, OldlandReddies said: Are we even certain it was a hamstring?? Has it been confirmed anywhere?? Thankfully we have an international break coming up. It'll be a real blessing. It looked high up from one camera angle in terms of where he was holding it, so could be groin, or whatever that muscle thing is that goes down the inside of your thigh (no, not that one ). I think I’ll just wait for official word on this one. I’ve done hammers and been back quickly, and I've done hammers that take a lot longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Who has said a month? Is this from some guy on twitter who allegedly spoke to TK after the game? I saw a tweet last night, can’t find it now. If so, TK himself wouldn’t know at that point, so I don’t think anyone knows at this point and it’s all speculation. It looked high up from one camera angle in terms of where he was holding it, so could be groin, or whatever that muscle thing is that goes down the inside of your thigh (no, not that one ). I think I’ll just wait for official word on this one. I’ve done hammers and been back quickly, and I've done hammers that take a lot longer. If that's the case and it's his Psaos muscle group, that would be worse news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Redpool said: If that's the case and it's his Psaos muscle group, that would be worse news. On that response, I reckon you might know a bit in this area!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 87 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 My guess, he won’t start until after the October internationals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Who has said a month? Is this from some guy on twitter who allegedly spoke to TK after the game? I saw a tweet last night, can’t find it now. If so, TK himself wouldn’t know at that point, so I don’t think anyone knows at this point and it’s all speculation. It looked high up from one camera angle in terms of where he was holding it, so could be groin, or whatever that muscle thing is that goes down the inside of your thigh (no, not that one ). I think I’ll just wait for official word on this one. I’ve done hammers and been back quickly, and I've done hammers that take a lot longer. It was Gregor McGregor who said he spoke to Kalas who replied a month and hoped to be back for Preston. However, I suspect that was, wishful on his part, but none of us will know until properly diagnosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: On that response, I reckon you might know a bit in this area!! Psoas group runs deep from the sides of your stomach right down into the groin. It's a very deep muscle within the human body and an absolutely pain in the ass to try and treat. For athletes who have suffered psoas/iiliopsoas injuries, it takes daily routines to keep the muscle group in a healthy state (well that's what Athletes should be doing to minimise the risk of injuring the area again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Redpool said: Psoas group runs deep from the sides of your stomach right down into the groin. It's a very deep muscle within the human body and an absolutely pain in the ass to try and treat. For athletes who have suffered psoas/iiliopsoas injuries, it takes daily routines to keep the muscle group in a healthy state (well that's what Athletes should be doing to minimise the risk of injuring the area again). I’ve injured ‘em all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Source? (Please let this be true!) He told a city fan after the game. It’s pre scan though so who knows. Said he hoped to play against Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Didn’t Pisano have a torn hamstring the season before last? He came back and then made the injury worse if my memory serves me correctly. He was out for about 5 months in total. If it’s a nasty tear, then I wouldn’t imagine Kalas will be 100% ready to go until after Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 We’re lucky that we’ve got an international break coming up giving Williams time to get fit, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 14 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Worst case is months unfortunately Packs is a Grade 3 and expected out for 2 months and he wasn’t sprinting Since when has Pack EVER sprinted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 47 minutes ago, Red white and red said: Didn’t Pisano have a torn hamstring the season before last? He came back and then made the injury worse if my memory serves me correctly. He was out for about 5 months in total. If it’s a nasty tear, then I wouldn’t imagine Kalas will be 100% ready to go until after Xmas. Hamstrings are a delicate muscle compared to a lot of others. If the above is true, someone from the medical team should have been sacked over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 49 minutes ago, Red white and red said: Didn’t Pisano have a torn hamstring the season before last? He came back and then made the injury worse if my memory serves me correctly. He was out for about 5 months in total. If it’s a nasty tear, then I wouldn’t imagine Kalas will be 100% ready to go until after Xmas. Pisano ripped his hamstring off the bone. Very different. Just re-read. Yes he had a slight hamstring injury and played v Brentford where he really stretched and ripped it off the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Redpool said: Hamstrings are a delicate muscle compared to a lot of others. If the above is true, someone from the medical team should have been sacked over that. The player may well is suggested he was fine to play, mans we did change fitness and conditioning coach this season, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Lots of people saying 1 month, 3 months etc, yet we don't know exactly what injury he has, or how severe it is What I do know is he was out in town last night with some of the other players and was walking ok, and not on Crutches . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Is there anything a player can do to try and guard against this type of injury? Seems to happen quite a bit and can have a huge impact on teams ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Slippin cider said: Is there anything a player can do to try and guard against this type of injury? Seems to happen quite a bit and can have a huge impact on teams ... Not really, can happen to anyone anytime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangle Foot Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Worse case scenario is 2-3 months out - let’s hope not! If LJ suggests it’s not too serious, then I’ll worry (going by previous history). Until Kalas returns, Baker & Moore get my full support (as will Williams - when he’s ready to go)!! COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Ian M Posted August 26, 2019 Admin Share Posted August 26, 2019 Is there any chance of it being some kind of miracle and his muscle just severely spasmed making everyone think he had torn it only to dissipate by the evening, allowing him to go town with his teammates? Im trying to outdo the OP in the Optimist stakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Lots of people saying 1 month, 3 months etc, yet we don't know exactly what injury he has, or how severe it is What I do know is he was out in town last night with some of the other players and was walking ok, and not on Crutches . You sure ? The way he pulled up looked a lot worse than just a regular pulled hamstring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: You sure ? The way he pulled up looked a lot worse than just a regular pulled hamstring. As I said, don't know the extent. But he wasn't on crutches last night. Let's hope the stretcher was all precautionary and its a pull. .....or are we not that lucky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Andy082005 said: As I said, don't know the extent. But he wasn't on crutches last night. Let's hope the stretcher was all precautionary and its a pull. .....or are we not that lucky? Well, if you saw him walking in town last night then its a good sign. I expected him to be on crutches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 25/08/2019 at 19:34, BobBobSuperBob said: Worst case is months unfortunately Packs is a Grade 3 and expected out for 2 months and he wasn’t sprinting Although I’m one of the few that rated Marlon I cannot remember ever seeing him sprint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrt55555 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Although I’m one of the few that rated Marlon I cannot remember ever seeing him sprint! Only time I saw him really sprint was after Villa away last season when he hared it past me as I was filing out of Villa Park - on his way to get to a car back to Bristol as his wife had gone into labour. Never saw him show that sort of pace on the pitch, mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Andy082005 said: Lots of people saying 1 month, 3 months etc, yet we don't know exactly what injury he has, or how severe it is What I do know is he was out in town last night with some of the other players and was walking ok, and not on Crutches . If the bottom half is true then he's completely fine and will be playing Saturday but find that difficult to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I know he's pivotal but it's really important we don't rush him back too soon. This Saturday might class as too soon even if the situation better than hoped/feared. If in doubt, sit it out and clearly not sufficiently fit for the national team either! Be a bit cute, rested and recuperated for Stoke away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Northski Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I don’t know how long it’ll take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Allwaysred said: If the bottom half is true then he's completely fine and will be playing Saturday but find that difficult to believe. He was out, in gravity on the triangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatherred Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Put his thumb up as he was being carried off so hopefully not that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashton98 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Fatherred said: Put his thumb up as he was being carried off so hopefully not that bad Elokobi did the same and his ankle was near enough hanging off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezOfCity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Ashton98 said: Elokobi did the same and his ankle was near enough hanging off "This new left back looks alrigh . . . oh never mind" Up there with, "This guy on loan from Rangers looks the business" and "Sam Vokes, show us what ya got kid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 25/08/2019 at 19:34, BobBobSuperBob said: Worst case is months unfortunately Packs is a Grade 3 and expected out for 2 months and he wasn’t sprinting I wouldn’t be too disappointed with a month especially if you consider an international break takes out 1/2 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRider1984 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I was out in town Sunday and happened to be in the same place as all the City team. Spoke to him myself and he said he was ok and it was going to be about 1 month. So hopefully with international break it could only be 2 or 3 games out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, DayRider1984 said: I was out in town Sunday and happened to be in the same place as all the City team. Spoke to him myself and he said he was ok and it was going to be about 1 month. So hopefully with international break it could only be 2 or 3 games out. Misses Boro, Stoke and Swansea and back for the PNE game hopefully. Just need Nagi back asap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 13 hours ago, Allwaysred said: If the bottom half is true then he's completely fine and will be playing Saturday but find that difficult to believe. This is true a mate of mine got a selfie with him, idiot didnt ask how long he would be out for though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allwaysred Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, DayRider1984 said: I was out in town Sunday and happened to be in the same place as all the City team. Spoke to him myself and he said he was ok and it was going to be about 1 month. So hopefully with international break it could only be 2 or 3 games out. Really??? So he does his hamstring Saturday gets strechered off and then is out on the town the next day with the lads but is out for a month.... Hummmmm I'm not so sure about that love to see pictures as I'm not so sure LJ and co would be to impressed with our 8million pound signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Allwaysred said: Really??? So he does his hamstring Saturday gets strechered off and then is out on the town the next day with the lads but is out for a month.... Hummmmm I'm not so sure about that love to see pictures as I'm not so sure LJ and co would be to impressed with our 8million pound signing. Out in town and out on the town are not necessarily the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nibor said: Out in town and out on the town are not necessarily the same thing. Indeed. He may not have been out out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Indeed. He may not have been out out. That's it, I doubt he was properly out out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Indeed. He may not have been out out. You mean he may have been in out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Nibor said: Out in town and out on the town are not necessarily the same thing. And does anyone seriously think the club don`t know when the players are having a night out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRider1984 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Allwaysred said: Really??? So he does his hamstring Saturday gets strechered off and then is out on the town the next day with the lads but is out for a month.... Hummmmm I'm not so sure about that love to see pictures as I'm not so sure LJ and co would be to impressed with our 8million pound signing. well my mate got some pictures with the city lads (Kalas being one). They were there from 4pm to about 8:30pm, would of thought they went home after that but cant confirm that! Some of them were pretty drunk, some looked like it was a more sociable drink in the sun enjoying a good DJ set. Spoke to him myself and definitely said 1 month. if you really don't believe me then that's up to you but I am not going to plaster pictures on here when they were good enough to have them taken with people. So conclusion would be they were just out and not out out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: You mean he may have been in out ? No, he may just have been out. Not out out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, DayRider1984 said: well my mate got some pictures with the city lads (Kalas being one). They were there from 4pm to about 8:30pm, would of thought they went home after that but cant confirm that! Some of them were pretty drunk, some looked like it was a more sociable drink in the sun enjoying a good DJ set. Spoke to him myself and definitely said 1 month. if you really don't believe me then that's up to you but I am not going to plaster pictures on here when they were good enough to have them taken with people. So conclusion would be they were just out and not out out! Not keen on players drinking during the season tbh, especially so early. Just a personal view though. Without betrayal of confidence, would you say Kalas was one of those who was pretty drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judda Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: You mean he may have been in out ? And shaking it all about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not keen on players drinking during the season tbh, especially so early. Just a personal view though. Without betrayal of confidence, would you say Kalas was one of those who was a bit merry let's say? Was he dancing?! And I don't mean YMCA, but dancing with his legs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRider1984 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 To be fair he certainly didn’t look like he had been drinking, seemed pretty sober when I was speaking to him! And that was probably around 7pm! And no he was mainly sat down the time he was there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not keen on players drinking during the season tbh, especially so early. Just a personal view though. Without betrayal of confidence, would you say Kalas was one of those who was a bit merry let's say? 3 wins in 7 days A tough week on road Have tbh Mr P I’d say good luck to them Tbh In see it more as a positive that on a day off after that week , they are out together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1bristolcity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, cidercity said: This is true a mate of mine got a selfie with him, idiot didnt ask how long he would be out for though. Cringeworthy selfies, why cant people leave well alone? Blokes having a few beers with his mates and get's pestered by groupies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: 3 wins in 7 days A tough week on road Have tbh Mr P I’d say good luck to them Tbh In see it more as a positive that on a day off after that week , they are out together Well true Bob, shows a great team spirit to round off a great week and on the road- excellent signs for togetherness and harmony. Just not convinced about players drinking alcohol in-season but perhaps that's an overcautious view to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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