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Williams to come in and possibly Nagy to make a surprise return ?

Wouldn't be surprised to see;

                Bentley

 Moore   Williams   Baker

Hunt  Nagy  Brownhill  Rowe

               Palmer

      Weimann  Afobe

Probably Massengo for Nagy, but if Nagy is fit enough he will play imo.

 

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12 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Williams to come in and possibly Nagy to make a surprise return ?

Wouldn't be surprised to see;

                Bentley

 Moore   Williams   Baker

Hunt  Nagy  Brownhill  Rowe

               Palmer

      Weimann  Afobe

Probably Massengo for Nagy, but if Nagy is fit enough he will play imo.

 

According to Duran Duran in the Bristol Post, Nagy is recovering well, and has been called up by Hungary for the Euro qualifiers, but Saturday may be too soon. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-handed-boost-over-3259911

I expect us to stick with Massengo and go with a back four and the love god Kasey Palmer. 

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23 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Williams to come in and possibly Nagy to make a surprise return ?

Wouldn't be surprised to see;

                Bentley

 Moore   Williams   Baker

Hunt  Nagy  Brownhill  Rowe

               Palmer

      Weimann  Afobe

Probably Massengo for Nagy, but if Nagy is fit enough he will play imo.

 

Williams will be on the bench at best.

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4 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

Williams will be on the bench at best.

Williams will be on the bench at least is probably more accurate imo.

But I think LJ won't want to change from a back three.

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21 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

According to Duran Duran in the Bristol Post, Nagy is recovering well, and has been called up by Hungary for the Euro qualifiers, but Saturday may be too soon. https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-city-handed-boost-over-3259911

I expect us to stick with Massengo and go with a back four and the love god Kasey Palmer. 

Yes, he said the plan is to have him back for the Stoke game so no chance for Saturday.

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5 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

Williams will be on the bench at least is probably more accurate imo.

But I think LJ won't want to change from a back three.

Did us no harm at Hull, in fact Palmer coming on and us going to a 4 changed the game in our favour.  I think it'll be the team that finished the game.

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Bentley

 

Pereira

Moore

Baker

Rowe

 

Massengo

Brownhill

 

Eliasson

Palmer

 

Weimann

Afobe

 

For me Pereira would be a bit better in a back 4 as at times Hunt can be caught out playing as a right full back and I can see Johnson reverting to that in the absence of Kalas. 

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12 hours ago, RedEyez said:

Think it’ll be a 4-3-1-2

Nagy to return.

 

                   Bentley

Hunt    Moore    Baker    Rowe

Massengo  Nagy  Brownhill

                  Palmer

          Weimann Afobe

Seems highly unlikely that Nagy will play when he won’t even be fit for Hungary’s first game. 

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33 minutes ago, RedDave said:

Seems highly unlikely that Nagy will play when he won’t even be fit for Hungary’s first game. 

They have a friendly on 5th September, I'd be surprised if he isn't fit for that.

He'll definitely be fit for the Slovakia game on 9th September, which is the next Euro game for them.

As for saturday, I wouldn't rule it out tbh but no need to rush him back with Massengo/Brownhill doing well.

 

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Depending on whether LJ thinks Williams is ready, I'd like to see:

                                      Bentley 

                 Moore         Williams           Baker

Hunt           Brownhill             Massengo             Rowe

                                     Palmer 

                    Weimann                Afobe 

If Williams isn't ready, then I think it'll be a back 4, with maybe Eliasson coming in for the injured Kalas.

I don't think Nagy will be rushed back and considering how good Han has been, we needn't worry! 

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45 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

They have a friendly on 5th September, I'd be surprised if he isn't fit for that.

He'll definitely be fit for the Slovakia game on 9th September, which is the next Euro game for them.

As for saturday, I wouldn't rule it out tbh but no need to rush him back with Massengo/Brownhill doing well.

 

I doubt Johnson was lying to be honest 

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3 hours ago, 97Red said:

Depending on whether LJ thinks Williams is ready, I'd like to see:

                                      Bentley 

                 Moore         Williams           Baker

Hunt           Brownhill             Massengo             Rowe

                                     Palmer 

                    Weimann                Afobe 

If Williams isn't ready, then I think it'll be a back 4, with maybe Eliasson coming in for the injured Kalas.

I don't think Nagy will be rushed back and considering how good Han has been, we needn't worry! 

I think he may have been playing on saturday if we didn't have Massengo. He's been training again and he's naturally a very fit lad evidenced by the amount of ground he covers per game.

Anyway, if he's not back saturday then definitely Stoke - he'll be fit for Hungarys friendly on the 5th imo as a warm up for their Euro game on the 9th.

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4 minutes ago, mozo said:

Isn't it great seeing fans of teams who we've been miles behind in recent memory now scared of us giving them a hiding.

It is.

But I can't see us giving them a hiding tbh.

They've got a good squad and will be up around playoffs come the end of season imo.

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7 hours ago, 97Red said:

Depending on whether LJ thinks Williams is ready, I'd like to see:

                                      Bentley 

                 Moore         Williams           Baker

Hunt           Brownhill             Massengo             Rowe

                                     Palmer 

                    Weimann                Afobe 

If Williams isn't ready, then I think it'll be a back 4, with maybe Eliasson coming in for the injured Kalas.

I don't think Nagy will be rushed back and considering how good Han has been, we needn't worry! 

If we go back 3, that will be the team, although Hunt and Pereira seem to be sharing minutes, so who knows.

If we go back 4 I think it will be 4312.  It would be a bit of a gamble but you could go:

Bentley

Hunt (Pereira) | Moore | Baker | Rowe

Brownhill | Massengo | Palmer

Szmodics (O’Dowda)

Weimann | Afobe

I think Palmer can be trusted in a 3, and it can morph into various fluid formations with Weimann and Szmodics.

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9 hours ago, Flint says No said:

Bentley

 

Pereira

Moore

Baker

Rowe

 

Massengo

Brownhill

 

Eliasson

Palmer

 

Weimann

Afobe

 

For me Pereira would be a bit better in a back 4 as at times Hunt can be caught out playing as a right full back and I can see Johnson reverting to that in the absence of Kalas. 

Yes pererra and Messengo a must for me 

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Assuming a back four, I'd like to see:

                    Bentley

Hunt     Moore    Baker      Rowe  

      Brownhill       Massengo

Weimann       Palmer         Semenyo

                    Afobe 

Substitutes

  • Pereira
  • O'Dowda
  • Szmodics
  • Diédhiou
  • Eliasson
  • Mäenpää
  • Williams

 

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13 hours ago, Davefevs said:

If we go back 3, that will be the team, although Hunt and Pereira seem to be sharing minutes, so who knows.

If we go back 4 I think it will be 4312.  It would be a bit of a gamble but you could go:

Bentley

Hunt (Pereira) | Moore | Baker | Rowe

Brownhill | Massengo | Palmer

Szmodics (O’Dowda)

Weimann | Afobe

I think Palmer can be trusted in a 3, and it can morph into various fluid formations with Weimann and Szmodics.

The diamond although successful for teams like Liverpool, I think we'd struggle with, but maybe Lee thinks we have the energy and legs in midfield to cover the wide areas. However, it does rely heavy on your full backs, a position we aren't exactly overly strong in. Playing the diamond IMO, will leave both full backs quite exposed and we know Hunt and Rowe aren't amazing defenders. Stoke have been trying to play the diamond this season, and that hasn't exactly gone great for them! 

I'm all for trying to get all of our attacking assets into the starting 11, and Kasey for me has to start on current form. But I wasn't comfortable with him on the left at Hull. Hull got in down our left hand side a number of times (albeit they did have Bowen there) and Kasey, although seems to have improved his fitness and work ethic massively, is not the greatest protection for Rowe. Kasey is much better for me, in behind the front men. As you said, maybe worth a gamble and it could pay off. I'm just not sure the full backs are good enough for us to play that formation. With all the attacking quality in the team though, we may end up playing it and winning games 4 - 3 ?  

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4 minutes ago, 97Red said:

The diamond although successful for teams like Liverpool, I think we'd struggle with, but maybe Lee thinks we have the energy and legs in midfield to cover the wide areas. However, it does rely heavy on your full backs, a position we aren't exactly overly strong in. Playing the diamond IMO, will leave both full backs quite exposed and we know Hunt and Rowe aren't amazing defenders. Stoke have been trying to play the diamond this season, and that hasn't exactly gone great for them! 

I'm all for trying to get all of our attacking assets into the starting 11, and Kasey for me has to start on current form. But I wasn't comfortable with him on the left at Hull. Hull got in down our left hand side a number of times (albeit they did have Bowen there) and Kasey, although seems to have improved his fitness and work ethic massively, is not the greatest protection for Rowe. Kasey is much better for me, in behind the front men. As you said, maybe worth a gamble and it could pay off. I'm just not sure the full backs are good enough for us to play that formation. With all the attacking quality in the team though, we may end up playing it and winning games 4 - 3 ?  

I’m not suggesting a diamond - I’m suggesting a flat 3, which shifts across the pitch together depending on where the ball is.

When we played Derby (I know we played a back 5 that night) it was obvious we’d worked on our shape since the QPR game in the Saturday and the midfield got into position quickly to support Rowe especially.  

The fitter Palmer, plus the energy of Szmodics (and Weimann) could make it work.

No formation is bomb proof....I’m just not keen on us reverting to a back 4 and going traditional 442, because you then waste Palmer in a wide midfield position, and we end up with a two man central midfield. The 4222-hexagon has some merits, but we saw how West Brom exploited it once they’d noticed what we were doing.

LJ’s interview yesterday hinted that he really likes the 5....so it wouldn’t surprise me to see Williams come in.  That 212 in front of:

Brownhill | Massengo

Palmer

Weimann | Afobe

is probably the best way of getting those players on the pitch in their best / favourite positions.  The WBs support this both with and without the ball knowing there are 3 CBs in place.

No doubt LJ will have some surprise up his sleeve.

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10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I’m not suggesting a diamond - I’m suggesting a flat 3, which shifts across the pitch together depending on where the ball is.

When we played Derby (I know we played a back 5 that night) it was obvious we’d worked on our shape since the QPR game in the Saturday and the midfield got into position quickly to support Rowe especially.  

The fitter Palmer, plus the energy of Szmodics (and Weimann) could make it work.

No formation is bomb proof....I’m just not keen on us reverting to a back 4 and going traditional 442, because you then waste Palmer in a wide midfield position, and we end up with a two man central midfield. The 4222-hexagon has some merits, but we saw how West Brom exploited it once they’d noticed what we were doing.

LJ’s interview yesterday hinted that he really likes the 5....so it wouldn’t surprise me to see Williams come in.  That 212 in front of:

Brownhill | Massengo

Palmer

Weimann | Afobe

is probably the best way of getting those players on the pitch in their best / favourite positions.  The WBs support this both with and without the ball knowing there are 3 CBs in place.

No doubt LJ will have some surprise up his sleeve.

My mistake! I guess it's a similar principle though, but with 3 central 'busy' players all linking and interchanging, all of which are very much box to box if you will. Instead of just the one sitting in front of the back 4. I think we have the energy in the midfield to shift across and get about the pitch for sure, just as I said previously, there maybe times when our full backs are left exposed, but as you said no formation is bomb proof and quite right there. 

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If LJ plays Williams then surely it will be the usual back 5 with Massengo & Brownhill CM, Palmer ACM, Afobe & Weimann up top.

If LJ sticks with a back 4, then I'd like to see Eliasson start, as if he can deliver his usual number of quality crosses I reckon Afobe with his superior movement will get on the end of them.

Worst case scenario is sticking with a back 4, and LJ picking Fammy to start alongside Afobe with Weimann pushed right, where he is usually poor and offers no defensive cover.

Given how open we looked against Hull with a back 4, I reckon Williams will play in a back 5.

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2 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

If LJ plays Williams then surely it will be the usual back 5 with Massengo & Brownhill CM, Palmer ACM, Afobe & Weimann up top.

If LJ sticks with a back 4, then I'd like to see Eliasson start, as if he can deliver his usual number of quality crosses I reckon Afobe with his superior movement will get on the end of them.

Worst case scenario is sticking with a back 4, and LJ picking Fammy to start alongside Afobe with Weimann pushed right, where he is usually poor and offers no defensive cover.

Given how open we looked against Hull with a back 4, I reckon Williams will play in a back 5.

Thing is we don’t know how fit Williams is. He won’t be match fit for sure and I’m expecting him to be on the bench.

My guess is it’ll be a flat back four with Baker and Moore in the middle.

That said, only those involved around the squad will have the necessary knowledge of which players are fit to start tomorrow.

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1 hour ago, 97Red said:

My mistake! I guess it's a similar principle though, but with 3 central 'busy' players all linking and interchanging, all of which are very much box to box if you will. Instead of just the one sitting in front of the back 4. I think we have the energy in the midfield to shift across and get about the pitch for sure, just as I said previously, there maybe times when our full backs are left exposed, but as you said no formation is bomb proof and quite right there. 

No probs ?

Yep, we have a very different set of options with the signing of Nagy and Massengo and Pack leaving.

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