mozo Posted September 2, 2019 Report Share Posted September 2, 2019 With Weimann our most productive player so far this season (2 goals, 2 assists?), he simply has to play. But I still think he'll be somewhere wider right side with Famara up top. I just think Johnson will want that extra aerial strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 My assumption is Benik is unavailable for Stoke away. Could one of our ITKs confirm one way or another and if so, who do we think starts, fitness etc not withstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Red Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Can’t play against loan clubs, so no he’s not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Riaz said: Can’t play against loan clubs, so no he’s not available. You can play against loan clubs but it’s up to the parent club to decide when the loan was agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bristolboy_06 said: You can play against loan clubs but it’s up to the parent club to decide when the loan was agreed. Almost always it's a no- can't remember any in the League playing against parent club. Given how this was seemingly rushed out this loan, I cannot see it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 We don't need him to beat Stoke. Let him have a rest..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 A clause has to be activated to allow the player to play. I see absolutely no benefit for the Parent club in this so I'd think he's unavailable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Almost always it's a no- can't remember any in the League playing against parent club. Given how this was seemingly rushed out this loan, I cannot see it myself. I can remember David Seal playing against us for Northampton (IIRC) whilst on loan.... He scored at least one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 55 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: A clause has to be activated to allow the player to play. I see absolutely no benefit for the Parent club in this so I'd think he's unavailable. I find it funny how a club can deem a player not good enough for them so loan him out but then not want them to play against them! Can you imagine if we had loaned out Nicky Hunt and refused him the chance to play against us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busterrimes Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Almost always it's a no- can't remember any in the League playing against parent club. Given how this was seemingly rushed out this loan, I cannot see it myself. Ha ha, we once let David Seal who was on loan at Northampton from us play against and he scored and we lost 2-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: I find it funny how a club can deem a player not good enough for them so loan him out but then not want them to play against them! Can you imagine if we had loaned out Nicky Hunt and refused him the chance to play against us?! To be fair, we made it very clear Jamie Patterson ain’t playing against us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Busterrimes said: Ha ha, we once let David Seal who was on loan at Northampton from us play against and he scored and we lost 2-1 3/1 wasn’t it. Colin Cramb scores for us. A long way to go to lose to your own player. I was ******* fuming. So nothing definitive but most on here think he is not available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted September 5, 2019 Admin Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Either way I'm surprised it's not popped up in any reports anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said: I find it funny how a club can deem a player not good enough for them so loan him out but then not want them to play against them! Can you imagine if we had loaned out Nicky Hunt and refused him the chance to play against us?! I think it was mentioned before, didn't we loan David Seal to Northampton and he scored against us as they beat us. There is always that chance, and is it worth risking when you don't have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 I'm surprised no one has mentioned David Seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Porto Red said: I'm surprised no one has mentioned David Seal Seal Good finisher Scored against against us whilst on loan at the Cobblers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: I think it was mentioned before, didn't we loan David Seal to Northampton and he scored against us as they beat us. There is always that chance, and is it worth risking when you don't have to? True, but there is as much chance of the player that is forced to play as the replacement scoring the winner than there is the one on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Do The Dziekanowski Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Seal Good finisher Scored against against us whilst on loan at the Cobblers Remember that game well, feeling devastated with hundreds of other city fans in the away end as Seal on loan from us at the time scored against us. Has this happened to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeak Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Pretty sure there was a Chelsea player on loan at Derby last season (Tomori, maybe?) who was allowed to play against his parent club in the cup. He then subsequently scored an own goal. Crafty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 It'll be Diedhiou up front on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Am I making it up or did Courtois play against Chelsea in the Champions League whilst on loan at Atletico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhhshauntaylor Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Didn't David Seal play against us, and score when we lost to Northampton, who he was on loan to, from us? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 To be honest I do think it’s rich of a club to say ‘pay wages (or a proportion we accept) but the days leading up to our two fixtures this bloke is redundant’. It could bite our arse like Seal, and others, but the league rules should not be in favour of the loaning out club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Am I making it up or did Courtois play against Chelsea in the Champions League whilst on loan at Atletico? Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Almost always it's a no- can't remember any in the League playing against parent club. Given how this was seemingly rushed out this loan, I cannot see it myself. I think the ones with an obligation to buy mostly play but it’s mostly no with everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, CotswoldRed said: We don't need him to beat Stoke. Let him have a rest..... It's a weird one because I think the expectation will be that we beat Stoke. If that doesn't happen, we'll have lost momentum and we all start doubting ourselves again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, mozo said: It's a weird one because I think the expectation will be that we beat Stoke. If that doesn't happen, we'll have lost momentum and we all start doubting ourselves again... Stoke away is a hard game despite the form they are on. It would be crazy of them to let him play against us, why would they do that? Has anyone mentioned what happened when we stupidly allowed David Seal to play against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 58 minutes ago, The turtle said: Correct Different competition- maybe it's even a default position that loanee can face parent club? In PL, the opposite seems to apply. Championship unless specificed I think...certainly don't expect Afobe to be eligible here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Well I think this will be a big chance for Fam and Semenyo to perform. I think Fam will start and will be replaced as soon as he tires by Semenyo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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