Roger Red Hat Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/24/raheem-sterling-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-romario-book-lu-martin-pol-ballus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/24/raheem-sterling-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-romario-book-lu-martin-pol-ballus I read this earlier and it got me thinking that Semenyo needs exactly this kind of intensive individual attention if he is to reach his potential. We have specialist goalkeeper coaching but do we have a specialist for strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 24, 2019 Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/24/raheem-sterling-manchester-city-pep-guardiola-romario-book-lu-martin-pol-ballus It's a great article and can be used to show the difference in Afobe and Famara. The way a forward show's for the ball speaks volumes to the person trying to pass to him. That's why Palmer struck up such a great partnership with Afobe in such a short space of time. Palmer has a quick brain and can see a pass, however for it to be really effective, he needs the forward to show with his body where he wants the ball. Afobe and Palmer were almost telepathic on occasion, purely on the shape of how Afobe showed to Palmer. I've said on previous occasions, Famaras shape to receive or show where he wants the ball is dire. Hence why he struggles at this level to control the ball...as he has to adjust. Weimann is altogether different...he often makes a good move, then checks himself...by either not going, or going elsewhere. It confuses the passer. A great example of that was yesterday. Pedro had the ball, and Weimann had so much space on the diagonal into the box...it was 'The' pass to make that was defence splitting...yet Weimann chose to stop. He didn't go and checked...it was almost like slow motion...but Pedro actually stopped and had time to look, as if to say...' are you going or what'?... Weimann didn't, but Pedro made the pass anyway, as it was the pass to make. Weimann is so frustrating...bags of energy, but often runs into the wrong places. Occasionally it works...but it's almost as if his head is ahead of his legs if that's possible. I thought from watching Rodri receiving the ball yesterday and controlling and shielding it so well, he could hopefully be the link we've been missing since Afobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted October 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, spudski said: I thought from watching Rodri receiving the ball yesterday and controlling and shielding it so well, he could hopefully be the link we've been missing since Afobe. I agree, he looks very promising. 13 minutes ago, chinapig said: I read this earlier and it got me thinking that Semenyo needs exactly this kind of intensive individual attention if he is to reach his potential. We have specialist goalkeeper coaching but do we have a specialist for strikers? Ian Wright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 15 hours ago, spudski said: It's a great article and can be used to show the difference in Afobe and Famara. The way a forward show's for the ball speaks volumes to the person trying to pass to him. That's why Palmer struck up such a great partnership with Afobe in such a short space of time. Palmer has a quick brain and can see a pass, however for it to be really effective, he needs the forward to show with his body where he wants the ball. Afobe and Palmer were almost telepathic on occasion, purely on the shape of how Afobe showed to Palmer. I've said on previous occasions, Famaras shape to receive or show where he wants the ball is dire. Hence why he struggles at this level to control the ball...as he has to adjust. Weimann is altogether different...he often makes a good move, then checks himself...by either not going, or going elsewhere. It confuses the passer. A great example of that was yesterday. Pedro had the ball, and Weimann had so much space on the diagonal into the box...it was 'The' pass to make that was defence splitting...yet Weimann chose to stop. He didn't go and checked...it was almost like slow motion...but Pedro actually stopped and had time to look, as if to say...' are you going or what'?... Weimann didn't, but Pedro made the pass anyway, as it was the pass to make. Weimann is so frustrating...bags of energy, but often runs into the wrong places. Occasionally it works...but it's almost as if his head is ahead of his legs if that's possible. I thought from watching Rodri receiving the ball yesterday and controlling and shielding it so well, he could hopefully be the link we've been missing since Afobe. Agree with a lot of that. I think Weimann is one of those players that makes the opposite run first, and relies on the passer’s intelligence to spot that. To explain - when he wants to run off the shoulder, he’ll initially come short then bend his run in behind, so that he’s dragged his marker away from the space he wants to receive the ball in, or when he wants it short, he’ll initially look to run into the channel, and then check-back to receive into feet of course it doesn’t always work like that but I noticed it a lot. He also does a lot of running to create space for others. There were some brilliant examples last season where he moved wide (from central) getting passed on from CB to LB. at the point the LB engaged him, he then would come short and inside, taking the LB with him, and creating space for Hunt to receive down our right wing. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we’ve seen Palmer play clever little defence splitting passes through to Weimann in tight spaces, because Weimann makes good, proactive runs. Really hoping Rodri will do the same. His back to goal play on Wednesday was very good. Pereira also the beneficiary of Rodri’s ability to receive and lay-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Agree with a lot of that. I think Weimann is one of those players that makes the opposite run first, and relies on the passer’s intelligence to spot that. To explain - when he wants to run off the shoulder, he’ll initially come short then bend his run in behind, so that he’s dragged his marker away from the space he wants to receive the ball in, or when he wants it short, he’ll initially look to run into the channel, and then check-back to receive into feet of course it doesn’t always work like that but I noticed it a lot. He also does a lot of running to create space for others. There were some brilliant examples last season where he moved wide (from central) getting passed on from CB to LB. at the point the LB engaged him, he then would come short and inside, taking the LB with him, and creating space for Hunt to receive down our right wing. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we’ve seen Palmer play clever little defence splitting passes through to Weimann in tight spaces, because Weimann makes good, proactive runs. Really hoping Rodri will do the same. His back to goal play on Wednesday was very good. Pereira also the beneficiary of Rodri’s ability to receive and lay-off. I agree with that mate...and it's exactly how I see Weimann moving. However of late... he's not done it so well with fluidity and has often stuttered or checked himself. That movement is enough to make the passer either not play the ball or play the ball into the wrong area. I'd like to see him get into more dangerous scoring areas. Yes he makes space for others, but very seldom to they commit to going into that space. Unless we are chasing a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcofisher Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Roger Red Hat said: I agree, he looks very promising. Ian Wright? I was thinking this, it’s clear Semenyo physically and technically is one of the most talented players we’ve had but really lacks the movement and positioning skills. Luckily those are the ones he can learn whereas physicality and technique are to some degree inherent. If Wright really liked what he saw why not see if he would be interested in working with our strikers on a consultancy basis?Whether it would be in his interest who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Pereira also the beneficiary of Rodri’s ability to receive and lay-off. I noticed this too, he got a lot of space as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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