chinapig Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 51 minutes ago, lenred said: In Premiership terms though circa £10m is classed as ‘inexpensive’ these days - crazy as that is. And I can’t see him going for much more than that. Maybe £12m at a push. Burnley are not noted as big spenders though. As to Josh's market value, similar things were being said about Webster, Kelly, Reid and Bryan, all of whom went for a lot more than the majority on here predicted. We are in a strong negotiating position and Ashton has a strong track record. If our valuation is not met we won't sell. Assuming there actually is interest in the first place of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'd settle with 15 million. Bring back Morrell or Walsh. But realistically we'd sell in the summer as I can't remember us selling big in January. I am sure we would, but I don't see anyone coming in for him unless they desperately need him. Do Burnley desperately need him now? No. Not sure who else may be interested. Maybe Villa are, as they've lost McGinn to injury, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, JonDolman said: I'd settle with 15 million. Bring back Morrell or Walsh. But realistically we'd sell in the summer as I can't remember us selling big in January. I am sure we would, but I don't see anyone coming in for him unless they desperately need him. Do Burnley desperately need him now? No. Not sure who else may be interested. Maybe Villa are, as they've lost McGinn to injury, who knows. Agreed. Definitely a position we can afford to sell in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 hours ago, chinapig said: Burnley are not noted as big spenders though. As to Josh's market value, similar things were being said about Webster, Kelly, Reid and Bryan, all of whom went for a lot more than the majority on here predicted. We are in a strong negotiating position and Ashton has a strong track record. If our valuation is not met we won't sell. Assuming there actually is interest in the first place of course. Personally would be very happy with £10-12m all things considered. Don’t think JB is in the same league as Webster, doesn’t have the potential and pedigree that Lloyd did (England age group up to U-21caps) and is in the same ballpark as Bob and JB. We shall see though if / when it happens. Hopefully just conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Was there a sell-on clause when we signed Josh. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, lenred said: Personally would be very happy with £10-12m all things considered. Don’t think JB is in the same league as Webster, doesn’t have the potential and pedigree that Lloyd did (England age group up to U-21caps) and is in the same ballpark as Bob and JB. We shall see though if / when it happens. Hopefully just conjecture. We will see indeed. What we do know from experience is that it is not a question of what fans like you and me think a player is worth, it's what Ashton can get. Villa wouldn't go above £12m for Webster for instance but we bided our time and got what we wanted from Brighton. Plus of course Bobby and Joe were approaching the end of their contracts yet we still got more for them than was being predicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, steveybadger said: There was also an article yesterday in the Times by Henry Winter, looking at the progress of last summer’s EnglandU21 team. In it he said Dasilva was (still) on loan from Chelsea. Just another example of lack of research..... Especially as he’s a journo who is usually up to date on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: Was there a sell-on clause when we signed Josh. Anyone know? No, I don’t. Nothing disclosed at the time, but suspect there would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, I don’t. Nothing disclosed at the time, but suspect there would be. Did we pay a fee for him ? Thought he was out of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, I don’t. Nothing disclosed at the time, but suspect there would be. I think we had to pay compensation as he was out of contract at PNE. Not sure if that compensation could include a share of future profit or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, robin_unreliant said: I think we had to pay compensation as he was out of contract at PNE. Not sure if that compensation could include a share of future profit or not though. My limited understanding of this is that any compensation value set by the tribunal takes into account the potential for profit, so in effect PNE would not be due any share of the Brownhill fee assuming he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, bcfc01 said: Did we pay a fee for him ? Thought he was out of contract. Sorry thought you were on about Dasilva. Still don’t know whether Brownhill was tribunal settled or not. It is likely there will be clauses built in whether tribunal set or mutually agreed with Preston. See the link below: http://fullcontactlaw.co.uk/2016/11/compensation-players-24-mystery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 16/11/2019 at 21:05, Pickle Rick said: Too much there to refuse anything short of £20M+ add ons. Big player and can make the step up. Not in a million years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 Where is this interest coming from? Paper talk or fact? what we see on the pitch is hardly worth anything over 2 or 3 mill, he’s not captain material and his recent displays of ball control, or lack of, leave a lot to be desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highguy Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 19 hours ago, dave36 said: Where is this interest coming from? Paper talk or fact? what we see on the pitch is hardly worth anything over 2 or 3 mill, he’s not captain material and his recent displays of ball control, or lack of, leave a lot to be desired He wss given captain armband to sweeten us rejecting bids from prem sides for him in summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 Bristol City and Preston came to an agreement for Brownhill so not tribunal set I've seen people say the figure was £1-2m. As he was out of contract I do doubt whether there are any extra clauses and it was a simple fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrongagain Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Highguy said: He wss given captain armband to sweeten us rejecting bids from prem sides for him in summer That worked well did it NOT! Korey gave up on him and tried to take control himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, BetterRedthenBlue said: Bristol City and Preston came to an agreement for Brownhill so not tribunal set I've seen people say the figure was £1-2m. As he was out of contract I do doubt whether there are any extra clauses and it was a simple fee. So wrong. Was about 300k, with a small sell on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, James54De said: So wrong. Was about 300k, with a small sell on Well I apologise for being incorrect then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 On 31/12/2019 at 09:36, REDOXO said: I was told Enquiries for several players not much on specifics and it was linked to the earlier LJ soundbite regarding the squad trimming per my earlier post. So like others I would be guessing myself. (But if I were to guess and I mean this bit is me talking without input but reading a bit between the lines Baker, Diehdou, Elliason, Moore, Palmer, Taylor, Bentley as well as the title of the thread. I guess its predictable as they have mostly done well recently, also this may play into targets and our dip in form. As i said this could be an exciting few days/weeks with incoming and outgoing, but again clubs sounding each other out is part of the dance in January. Apparently. OK Palmer now obvious. Who next? The worrying thing is the reports of how Palmer is not getting on with LJ. Another thread for that i guess!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 According to Joey Popes on twitter, only Brownhill didn’t report for training today. He has pics of his kids at Failand, and in fairness I think he has some contacts (runs his own fitness camps and appears to know some players). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Davefevs said: According to Joey Popes on twitter, only Brownhill didn’t report for training today. He has pics of his kids at Failand, and in fairness I think he has some contacts (runs his own fitness camps and appears to know some players). Do we need a Brownhill sale to kick start our transfer business ? I actually think the lad should move on to enhance his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen humphries Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: According to Joey Popes on twitter, only Brownhill didn’t report for training today. He has pics of his kids at Failand, and in fairness I think he has some contacts (runs his own fitness camps and appears to know some players). I really rate jb, I think it would be good for both parties for him to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 Fair play to Brownhill if he gets a Prem move. I don’t think I’ve seen anything in him to suggest he’s anything better than a decent Championship player. It would presumably allow more game time to Massengo who has considerably more potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: Fair play to Brownhill if he gets a Prem move. I don’t think I’ve seen anything in him to suggest he’s anything better than a decent Championship player. It would presumably allow more game time to Massengo who has considerably more potential. Could not agree more. The love - in by some on here passes me by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Could not agree more. The love - in by some on here passes me by. Don’t get me wrong I think he’s decent enough and that he can improve. But is he going to improve any premier league side? Not on what I’ve seen I must say. Then again it still baffles me that players like Freeman and Cunningham got PL moves so what do I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 We've seen how brilliant Brownhill can be. Let's face it, everyone except Diedhiou, Eliasson and Watkins have been below what we'd expect in general for a little while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: According to Joey Popes on twitter, only Brownhill didn’t report for training today. He has pics of his kids at Failand, and in fairness I think he has some contacts (runs his own fitness camps and appears to know some players). To be fair, Brownhill and Weimann both deserve a week off. They definitely aren't needed for the cup and they've been ever-present, playing full games and probably training hard too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 3, 2020 Report Share Posted January 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, mozo said: To be fair, Brownhill and Weimann both deserve a week off. They definitely aren't needed for the cup and they've been ever-present, playing full games and probably training hard too. That’s certainly a good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Red 94 Posted January 5, 2020 Report Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’ve heard City have received a bid from a premier league club for josh Brownhill, possibly Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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