CyderInACan Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Why Lads? Why? FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Twattish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posset red Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Let’s all cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Posset red said: Let’s all cry Ummm. If abroad fine. Here illegal and club can get in trouble so twattish dry eyes here fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Stupid thing to do, in the middle of a large crowd where there could be people with breathing difficulties etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC-Tom Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 But but but they improve the atmosphere and are so amazing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColeCiderRed Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Really thought 70s football culture was behind us.. Looked bad then, let alone now!! Agree with OP tho.. We are doing so well on the pitch let's not ruin it with our antics off it. Esp as this could result in fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Kipper ties at the Top Rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Health & Safety, shouldn't be allowed... Clearly a tripping hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Well done .... those "pyro" sniffer dogs have just been put down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Well done .... those "pyro" sniffer dogs have just been put down. Useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things. We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things. We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them? Ask your mate Boris he now likes football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Snowflakes, snowflakes everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miloemily Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 20 minutes ago, Up The City! said: I get why people enjoy them, but enjoyment shouldn't be at the expense of someones health, it is ******* selfish and irresponsible. There should be an awareness campaign launched about the dangers of these things. We need to come down real hard on these people, didnt we already recieve a final warning or something about our fans using them? Is this really the case. In other countries do people not have health problems?????? snowflake land we live in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolboy_06 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 embarrassing thread, a few smoke bombs and everyone is crying get a grip for **** sake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Snowflake>Criminal The pros and cons of pyro can be debated I’m sure, however it is illegal. **** all to do with being a ‘snowflake’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Bristolboy_06 said: embarrassing thread, a few smoke bombs and everyone is crying get a grip for **** sake Doesn't matter unless club gets in the shit that's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I hope those who let them off enjoy their criminal conviction and 5 year football banning order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I guess the idiots at this concert thought it was so clever as well, but maybe not so the poor girl whose clothes were set on fire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50490458 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, RumRed said: Snowflake>Criminal The pros and cons of pyro can be debated I’m sure, however it is illegal. **** all to do with being a ‘snowflake’. And football behaviour is treated differently to 'real life' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BCFC-Tom said: But but but they improve the atmosphere and are so amazing..... Who really cares. The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 If you need a flare to enjoy that, there's something wrong. Nothing against them really but unnecessary to enjoy the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, 054123 said: Who really cares. The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now The police and the League cares, is that not enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Just now, RumRed said: The police and the League cares, is that not enough? Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, 054123 said: Who really cares. The over reaction on here every time, is just tedious now It’s not an over reaction when we’ve been warned a few times by the efl/fa they will fine us again or could even dock us points if they wanted too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, 054123 said: Good for them. Bonfire ‘fortnight’ was a while ago now, just selfish indulgent behaviour which will get the club fined again. Hopefully the children who let them off get identified, get a banning order and then get to stay home to let as many flares off in their garage as they like - just as well set firs to £10 notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poland_exile Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 good on em, sounds like a top away day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 If we win every time a flare goes off, that is fine by me!! Cant stand sterile football ground atmospheres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said: If we win every time a flare goes off, that is fine by me!! Cant stand sterile football ground atmospheres. Well mount a campaign to get it legalised then, with evidence it’s safe, as people are with safe standing. Don’t promote it at a time when it is illegal and the consequences for the individuals and club may well be serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, RumRed said: Well mount a campaign to get it legalised then, with evidence it’s safe, as people are with safe standing. Don’t promote it at a time when it is illegal and the consequences for the individuals and club may well be serious. I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, GasDestroyer said: I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones Feel free to bring them round my house so we can set them off together. If we do it in an enclosed space, and I hold them next to your skin you can then tell me how fun they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Up The City! said: Feel free to bring them round my house so we can set them off together. If we do it in an enclosed space, and I hold them next to your skin you can then tell me how fun they are Usually use petrol on larger jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 At least it will reduce the number by at least one for people seeking tickets at our next high profile game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 We always win when I go to Fulham. The other thing that always seems to happen there is a red smoke bomb regularly lands at my feet following a goal. "We've scored, what shall I do with this smoke bomb?" "Chuck it at that tall bloke again". Thanks lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 We win away and the first thing you do is moan...get a ******* grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ecko said: We win away and the first thing you do is moan...get a ******* grip Not moaning about the win though is he, just something we have been warned about previously and that earlier in the season Or end of last caused a young supporter to feel ill...do you condone younger fans having to sit out some of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Flares- or more accurately, pyro, smoke bombs, other smoke devices small yet coloured. They can add to things and I do see an appeal...a key problem is that while they're illegal, and against EFL/FA regs they can get the club in trouble. It's surely a remote possibility but just imagine we got a points deduction over it at some stage this season given our persistent reputation for it? Overall, Ive no vast issue with it as a concept- save for the below. Despite that, this IS a risk and hopefully those who think of doing it will think twice as things are going really well on the pitch, infrastructure wise, business wise- don't need anything to risk derailing things no matter how low a risk it may seem now or at the time of consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 hours ago, GasDestroyer said: I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones Not the brightest comment considering that’s what killed someone at the Welsh International against Romania. Some ******* imbeciles on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, glos old boy said: Do some clubs and indeed the FA not have pyro displays before matches, feet away from many fans? and are they not explosions/fire and smoke? and dont forget those bubbles they can get right in your eye. Then there is the hot tea/coffee wouldnt fancy that down my back or in my face, Just a bit ott with H AND S imo, much more chance of you being in a car accident on the way to a game than being fried by a flare. Ones used ina controller Environment set up and run by professionals the other is ******** who don’t want to actually watch football but spoil it and get the club into trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natchfever Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 49 minutes ago, Magger1 said: What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go Few are moaning about doing it per se. It's the fact that the club could get in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Natchfever said: Few are moaning about doing it per se. It's the fact that the club could get in trouble. This tbh. Also to add that it means a reasonable possibility of stronger searches etc for all, while the law remains as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 59 minutes ago, Magger1 said: What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go It is a big deal as, when a flare is thrown / set off, there is no guarantee whether someone will be hurt or not. It’s also illegal and the person responsible, if caught, will fined and banned from attending football matches.(There is CCTV at every match which flare throwers seem to forget). The club may also be punished. As for the flares and smoke bombs themselves, there are different sorts, with some being far more dangerous than others. It’s extremely unlikely that a flare thrower will conduct a risk assessment before purchasing the flare, as illustrated by @GasDestroyer’s comment about buying ship- to-shore flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 17 hours ago, Bristolboy_06 said: embarrassing thread, a few smoke bombs and everyone is crying get a grip for **** sake I expect your a young kid, who doesn't give a fxxk about older folk with health or breathing problems, goes to show stewards at Fulham not doing there jobs properly, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, Redandproud said: goes to show stewards at Fulham not doing there jobs properly, In fairness, some of them can be very hard to detect, compact indeed. Not all certainly, but from what I've read or pictures I've seen if well hidden away then detection is very difficult. Hence the pyro dogs which also failed to spot them it seems. Security theatre I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 18 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said: I guess the idiots at this concert thought it was so clever as well, but maybe not so the poor girl whose clothes were set on fire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50490458 people who don't give a shit about other fans welfare don't deserve the right to attend. thanks for finding the link.theres still those that say yes they are fine,even when this happens.what would they think if they seriously injured someone elses child. still billy big boots then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: In fairness, some of them can be very hard to detect, compact indeed. Not all certainly, but from what I've read or pictures I've seen if well hidden away then detection is very difficult. Hence the pyro dogs which also failed to spot them it seems. Security theatre I wonder? Yep. Just for show......unless there is a way of bypassing the dogs and getting them in after the turnstiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Yep. Just for show......unless there is a way of bypassing the dogs and getting them in after the turnstiles. Well, I've no idea how effective use of them is as a rule, but didn't work yesterday it seems? Visual deterrence may have been a better term, what I was getting at than security theatre tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I can’t comment on whether or not the stewards were doing a good job at Fulham, as I wasn’t there, but it’s extremely difficult to prevent any dangerous item being taken into a football match. Probably the only way would be to force everyone to pass through a body scanner, as at airports, before entering the ground. Can you imagine the reaction if that was introduced? We’ve even had people on the forum complaining about, the perfectly reasonable, requests for people to open their coats before entering Ashton Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, pongo88 said: I can’t comment on whether or not the stewards were doing a good job at Fulham, as I wasn’t there, but it’s extremely difficult to prevent any dangerous item being taken into a football match. Probably the only way would be to force everyone to pass through a body scanner, as at airports, before entering the ground. Can you imagine the reaction if that was introduced? We’ve even had people on the forum complaining about, the perfectly reasonable, requests for people to open their coats before entering Ashton Gate. I am not sure what opening your coat is supposed to achieve other than showing you don't have a waistcoat bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I was present at the game One Male was ejected and detained on suspicion of setting the smoke grenade off . I have a copy of the cctv and will examine it next week with a decision being made whether we can criminally charge. under the data sharing between clubs in the efl , the club will also get a copy and the club can make their own decision after viewing it. Setting smoke off can also effect allocation of away tickets for further matches. Never seen why people do it, having watched footage time and time again of people struggling to breathe I can see why they are not safe on crowded terraces . Please think carefully, and work on the basis cctv will catch you !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, JulieH said: I was present at the game One Male was ejected and detained on suspicion of setting the smoke grenade off . I have a copy of the cctv and will examine it next week with a decision being made whether we can criminally charge. under the data sharing between clubs in the efl , the club will also get a copy and the club can make their own decision after viewing it. Setting smoke off can also effect allocation of away tickets for further matches. Never seen why people do it, having watched footage time and time again of people struggling to breathe I can see why they are not safe on crowded terraces . Please think carefully, and work on the basis cctv will catch you !! It was made even more stupid by the fact that this was in the middle of a packed area as stewards were struggling to get people into seats and so there was a lot of us stood in stairwells and by the entrance. Therefore when he did set it off, it was right in the middle of around 40/50 people all cramped together. If one of those people was asthmatic and had a reaction they’d have had little chance sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Drew Peacock said: I am not sure what opening your coat is supposed to achieve other than showing you don't have a waistcoat bomb. I'd have thought they're also looking for more mundane, but nonetheless prohibited items too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I'm bored with this now, the legal position is clear. What I've never understood are those who think they add to the atmosphere, unless they mean the foul smell that arises from them. I assume that those who like these things wear a kaftan at home and are surrounded by jostiks and scented Yankee candles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsomersetred Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 22 hours ago, sh1t_ref_again said: I guess the idiots at this concert thought it was so clever as well, but maybe not so the poor girl whose clothes were set on fire https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50490458 the best compo face i've seen in a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: I'm bored with this now, the legal position is clear. What I've never understood are those who think they add to the atmosphere, unless they mean the foul smell that arises from them. I assume that those who like these things wear a kaftan at home and are surrounded by jostiks and scented Yankee candles. The police have issued a photograph of the person they wish to speak to in relation to the flare offence at Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northsomersetred Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 22 hours ago, GasDestroyer said: I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones I can thoroughly recommend these, top quality stuff https://www.force4.co.uk/crewsaver-aurora-sky-lite-2-star-red-distress-flare.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Magger1 said: What the ****s up with our fans , so a flare went off big deal as long as nobody was hurt ,do we have to have constant moaning 1 youngster doing what we all done when young letting his hair down , I’m not saying it’s right but we all done something we shouldn’t of as a kid so let it go What the ***** up with people like you? Do you understand people that suffer breathing difficulties can potentially die from these things? Do you understand that? Do I need to repeat it before it ******* sinks in? Did you do things as a kid that could have killed people? How would you like it if you went to the game and then suffered horrendous burns from one being thrown at you? It appears that those who light the things then immediately throw them so that they are not detected and thrown out, charged etc. It is a reckless act to throw the things, how would you feel if it hit a small child and gave them burns that would last a lifetime, still fun then is it? 3 hours ago, JulieH said: I was present at the game One Male was ejected and detained on suspicion of setting the smoke grenade off . I have a copy of the cctv and will examine it next week with a decision being made whether we can criminally charge. under the data sharing between clubs in the efl , the club will also get a copy and the club can make their own decision after viewing it. Setting smoke off can also effect allocation of away tickets for further matches. Never seen why people do it, having watched footage time and time again of people struggling to breathe I can see why they are not safe on crowded terraces . Please think carefully, and work on the basis cctv will catch you !! I hope whoever it is receives the strongest possible sentance and is banned from attending games. I cant speak for everyone but I'm sure most decent City fans will agree that those who recklessly put the safety of fellow fans at risk and also risk the club receiving a fine and a points deduction, they ain't no Bristol City fans, they are scum and are not welcome at our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, northsomersetred said: I can thoroughly recommend these, top quality stuff https://www.force4.co.uk/crewsaver-aurora-sky-lite-2-star-red-distress-flare.html Cock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, northsomersetred said: I can thoroughly recommend these, top quality stuff https://www.force4.co.uk/crewsaver-aurora-sky-lite-2-star-red-distress-flare.html Are you kidding me? Is this some sort of sick wind up? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-24931711 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 bet you ask the dj to turn the music down you boring gimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redinthehead Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, South Somerset Red said: bet you ask the dj to turn the music down you boring gimp Bet you ask the DJ to start a fire in the corner to ‘improve the atmosphere’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Somerset Red Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 16 minutes ago, Redinthehead said: Bet you ask the DJ to start a fire in the corner to ‘improve the atmosphere’. damn right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, South Somerset Red said: damn right Shouldn't you get your parent's permission first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Redinthehead said: Bet you ask the DJ to start a fire in the corner to ‘improve the atmosphere’. millwall had a big fire goin 85 on the park end..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, South Somerset Red said: bet you ask the dj to turn the music down you boring gimp I've done a bit of sound engineering from time to time, we like to bypass the limiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 07/12/2019 at 17:42, GasDestroyer said: I’m gonna order 3 more tonight. Ship to shore are the best ones Going to collect them on your way home from school, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Back in the day when there was real 'Idiots'...the older 'lads' would have grabbed said flare and rammed it down the throat of the juvenile coked up wannabe...dare say stone Island clad Isn't their a hierarchy anymore? Or do the older ones stand by and let the juvenile pricks act all hard without retribution in the ranks? Control the chimps FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Our club has been fantastic by providing a area for s82 and the relaxed policy they take towards standing in that area. I'm not saying those in s82 are responsible for these flares but the links are obvious. If a points deduction is ever given I'd fully support the club in coming down hard on that area. Have fun but behave responsibility or lose the privileges you already have, it's pretty simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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