weepywall Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 Sorry for this rant, had a few farmhouse ciders in the sun...I personally dont care if we lose the next 8 games (never felt like that before). I haven't got to make the effort to go to AG or travel hundreds of miles away to watch some piss poor performance from a City team because i can't do that in these unprecedented times. I haven't renewed and have no intention of doing so at the moment, it just feels to me that with everything off the field moving in the right direction, on the field we are rapidly going in the wrong direction, millions spent, 45 odd players and a manager that cant pick 11 from that lot that he can "trust". I've always been a LJ fan and really hoped he would be the man for us but he obviously isn't. It has to change for next season surely??? Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, weepywall said: Sorry for this rant, had a few farmhouse ciders in the sun...I personally dont care if we lose the next 8 games (never felt like that before). I haven't got to make the effort to go to AG or travel hundreds of miles away to watch some piss poor performance from a City team because i can't do that in these unprecedented times. I haven't renewed and have no intention of doing so at the moment, it just feels to me that with everything off the field moving in the right direction, on the field we are rapidly going in the wrong direction, millions spent, 45 odd players and a manager that cant pick 11 from that lot that he can "trust". I've always been a LJ fan and really hoped he would be the man for us but he obviously isn't. It has to change for next season surely??? Rant over Glad youve seen through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted June 22, 2020 Admin Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 I understand that this is a rant But a few presses of the enter key would have been appreciated One thing I would disagree with. Your point about off the pitch moving in the right direction, yes we have a nice stadium. But for me the matchday experience is dull and much of that is the way supporters have been pushed around the ground the past few years. Additionally I've never felt less like a supporter and more like a number on someone's business model before now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted June 22, 2020 Report Share Posted June 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, phantom said: I understand that this is a rant But a few presses of the enter key would have been appreciated One thing I would disagree with. Your point about off the pitch moving in the right direction, yes we have a nice stadium. But for me the matchday experience is dull and much of that is the way supporters have been pushed around the ground the past few years. Additionally I've never felt less like a supporter and more like a number on someone's business model before now Welcome to the world. Sir do you have money? do you have money I can take from you? will you have money in the future ? No well f off then. (enter key used). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I think it would be a shame to waste all the optimism that was surrounding the club what with last season just finishing short and the nice stadium we now play in, but if they are not careful and continue to take a lot of the fans for granted it wont be long before they're playing in a half empty stadium, if we again fall short this season and I'm not going to use the excuse of the enforced break (it's the same for everyone) then surely we will start next season with another manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, phantom said: I understand that this is a rant But a few presses of the enter key would have been appreciated One thing I would disagree with. Your point about off the pitch moving in the right direction, yes we have a nice stadium. But for me the matchday experience is dull and much of that is the way supporters have been pushed around the ground the past few years. Additionally I've never felt less like a supporter and more like a number on someone's business model before now I do wonder whether the club will see a reduction in season ticket sales moving forward (much as other clubs across the country). As @weepywall says it’s difficult to motivate going to games with such poor performances on the pitch. As we face uncertain times, especially financially for many - the cost of going to sport is an expensive business. People who would normally go to games religiously every week, have spent more time at home with families etc - maybe a change to their priorities , outlook. Of course we want to see our club win every week, but ultimately we all know we won’t, which I believe most accept. What we do want though is to be entertained and over a number of seasons that has been reduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlesh*t Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 hours ago, phantom said: I understand that this is a rant But a few presses of the enter key would have been appreciated One thing I would disagree with. Your point about off the pitch moving in the right direction, yes we have a nice stadium. But for me the matchday experience is dull and much of that is the way supporters have been pushed around the ground the past few years. Additionally I've never felt less like a supporter and more like a number on someone's business model before now Couldn't agree more, I was speaking to my mate the other day and we said similar. I am not saying I want loads of trouble but I want away fans to feel intimated by coming to the Gate not welcomed into a fan zone. I want the atmosphere to be buzzing round the ground not just sticking the singers as far away as possible to away fans in a corner. I understand everyone has there own idea of a match day experience but I always remember back to when I first really started going regularly under Wilson in the B block dolman, always a good atmosphere that travelled around the ground. I know its what the fans wanted I honestly believe the opening of the eastend and ever since sticking all singers in one section has killed the atmosphere. There are now only a handful of people in other parts of the ground to try and get it to spread and it never works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 I wouldn't say or agree that "on the field we are rapidly going in the wrong direction," I would say it's more a case of us treading water, going around in circles, getting bogged down. Stuck. We've come so far, but there is still a way to go "to get to where we want to be," but it doesn’t look like we know how to move forward from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 Completely agree. Let's do a Newcastle under Keegan. We've got the forward thinking players to score 5 and the defence and goalkeeper to let in 4. Makes these last 8 brilliant to watch at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 24 points available. I would suggest the following is where we stand 18-24 points = play offs 14-17 points = just miss out but encouraging end to season so LJ continues 10-13 points = LJ job in the balance. 50/50 either sacked or one more season 0-8 points = sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: 24 points available. I would suggest the following is where we stand 18-24 points = play offs 14-17 points = just miss out but encouraging end to season so LJ continues 10-13 points = LJ job in the balance. 50/50 either sacked or one more season 0-8 points = sacked I think it's quite possible that we'll only get two wins and two draws from the last eight games. I still don't think he'll be sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's quite possible that we'll only get two wins and two draws from the last eight games. I still don't think he'll be sacked If we achieve that and finish around 12th then I would hope that would be classed as unacceptable. I have been a LJ supporter as I believed supporting him was the best thing to do and what is the point in hiring a young manager and not giving him a few years to build a squad and learn on the job. I’m quite patient. However, he shows zero sign of learning from his errors. Finding it very hard to continue to back him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: If we achieve that and finish around 12th then I would hope that would be classed as unacceptable. I have been a LJ supporter as I believed supporting him was the best thing to do and what is the point in hiring a young manager and not giving him a few years to build a squad and learn on the job. I’m quite patient. However, he shows zero sign of learning from his errors. Finding it very hard to continue to back him I agree with all of that. I just don't trust Lansdown to sack him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 13 hours ago, weepywall said: Sorry for this rant, had a few farmhouse ciders in the sun...I personally dont care if we lose the next 8 games (never felt like that before). I haven't got to make the effort to go to AG or travel hundreds of miles away to watch some piss poor performance from a City team because i can't do that in these unprecedented times. I haven't renewed and have no intention of doing so at the moment, it just feels to me that with everything off the field moving in the right direction, on the field we are rapidly going in the wrong direction, millions spent, 45 odd players and a manager that cant pick 11 from that lot that he can "trust". I've always been a LJ fan and really hoped he would be the man for us but he obviously isn't. It has to change for next season surely??? Rant over Wow its just clicked. No need to apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 37 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: I think it's quite possible that we'll only get two wins and two draws from the last eight games. I still don't think he'll be sacked If we do not go up then why doesn’t he get sacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, City oz said: If we do not go up then why doesn’t he get sacked Well, quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Well, quite But will it happen ? If we made a good show of which we have not since November last year and we made some kind of play off final then another season with LJ might be acceptable by the majority. I remember the division 1 days and there are lots on OTIB that are younger and not have witnessed the Gate at capacity with us playing the likes of the Liverpool’s and the tight matches when we struggled to stay in division 1 like Coventry away on the night match that all that Of us attended will always remember. I remember away matches at Arsenal and many others. I do not like beIng a critic of any one but LJ is the manager and the buck stops with him. I’m no longer live in the UK but always get back at least twice a year and attend a home match at the gate. I remember the great years of the 70s and early 80s and those of which have not experienced those years they deserve it big time. with covert now it looks like I can not go back to the UK for some time. Those of you that regularly attend all the home matches and away ones need to have your dreams for filled and it is not going to happen until unfortunately a new manager is found and established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, City oz said: But will it happen ? If we made a good show of which we have not since November last year and we made some kind of play off final then another season with LJ might be acceptable by the majority. I remember the division 1 days and there are lots on OTIB that are younger and not have witnessed the Gate at capacity with us playing the likes of the Liverpool’s and the tight matches when we struggled to stay in division 1 like Coventry away on the night match that all that Of us attended will always remember. I remember away matches at Arsenal and many others. I do not like beIng a critic of any one but LJ is the manager and the buck stops with him. I’m no longer live in the UK but always get back at least twice a year and attend a home match at the gate. I remember the great years of the 70s and early 80s and those of which have not experienced those years they deserve it big time. with covert now it looks like I can not go back to the UK for some time. Those of you that regularly attend all the home matches and away ones need to have your dreams for filled and it is not going to happen until unfortunately a new manager is found and established. I am not asking for promotion. I just want progress every season even if it is small. I also dont want to see mistakes being repeated. If we cannot achieve a positive goal difference in any season and show no signs of doing so then maybe it is time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: 24 points available. I would suggest the following is where we stand 18-24 points = play offs 14-17 points = just miss out but encouraging end to season so LJ continues 10-13 points = LJ job in the balance. 50/50 either sacked or one more season 0-8 points = sacked Stop it....agree again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City oz Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I am not asking for promotion. I just want progress every season even if it is small. I also dont want to see mistakes being repeated. If we cannot achieve a positive goal difference in any season and show no signs of doing so then maybe it is time to move on Little progression has been achieved. It’s gone in the correct direction as getting slightly better. But slightly better can only be accepted for a short period of time. everyone wants their championship club to get promoted . But we are not everyone as we have a stadium that is first class, players that are first class, players that have international respect, players progressing through the academy, young players that can only get better and progress their careers further. its time to move I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 23, 2020 Report Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, City oz said: Little progression has been achieved. It’s gone in the correct direction as getting slightly better. But slightly better can only be accepted for a short period of time. everyone wants their championship club to get promoted . But we are not everyone as we have a stadium that is first class, players that are first class, players that have international respect, players progressing through the academy, young players that can only get better and progress their careers further. its time to move I think I would argue this current squad is not first class at all which is the fault of LJ and Mark Ashton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted June 25, 2020 Report Share Posted June 25, 2020 On 22/06/2020 at 20:37, weepywall said: Sorry for this rant, had a few farmhouse ciders in the sun...I personally dont care if we lose the next 8 games (never felt like that before). I haven't got to make the effort to go to AG or travel hundreds of miles away to watch some piss poor performance from a City team because i can't do that in these unprecedented times. I haven't renewed and have no intention of doing so at the moment, it just feels to me that with everything off the field moving in the right direction, on the field we are rapidly going in the wrong direction, millions spent, 45 odd players and a manager that cant pick 11 from that lot that he can "trust". I've always been a LJ fan and really hoped he would be the man for us but he obviously isn't. It has to change for next season surely??? Rant over Yeh me too mate. Johnson is gonna be gone soon. Most are seeing through his bull shit. We may get a better manager, we may get a worse manager. BUT I want to see a City team that play for the shirt even if we lose. This current set up with Johnson always throwing players under the bus and giving excuses is just not good enough. Johnson OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 On 23/06/2020 at 08:40, OldlandReddies said: Completely agree. Let's do a Newcastle under Keegan. We've got the forward thinking players to score 5 and the defence and goalkeeper to let in 4. Makes these last 8 brilliant to watch at least. And the midfield- or do we bypass this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldlandReddies Posted June 26, 2020 Report Share Posted June 26, 2020 8 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: And the midfield- or do we bypass this? Keegan's Newcastle didn't have a midfield ! :laugh: ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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