Kodjias Wrist Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Poor decision however good coaches to bring onboard. Time will tell but hopefully he gets the best out of the team....Good luck Holden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 No mention of how long his contract is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Good luck Deano, you're going to need it pal. Ashton can **** off though, the shithouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Seneca the Younger said: No mention of how long his contract is?? Couple of days hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Well it has put me out of my misery waiting but am totally underwhelmed with this appointment. Hey ho, upwards and onwards. He might end up being a revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: “I Don’t Want It That Way” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 gutted but oh well coyr . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: No mention of how long his contract is?? No, I thought that was odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Good luck Dean, but some sections of the support are already revolting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Twentyman sounds as gobsmacked as all of us.. bewildered actually. Dean sounds very nervous, unsurprisingly.. he's coming out fighting. Good luck to him and as others say he is really going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Well that was a surprise Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_95 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: No mention of how long his contract is?? I was thinking that as well, could it be a long contract they don’t want the fans to know about to cause more disgruntlement? Or a weird 12 month contract or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, havanatopia said: Twentyman sounds as gobsmacked as all of us.. bewildered actually. Dean sounds very nervous, unsurprisingly.. he's coming out fighting. Good luck to him and as others say he is really going to need it. Dean sounds like a genuine, nice guy. I like him a lot. But it's still a tinpot appointment for a club of our ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Are the coaches your own choices? "Yes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 This took balls I'll give Ashton that. Good luck Holden, not who I wanted but I will support. Top 6 or gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, WarksRobin said: Good luck Dean, but some sections of the support are already revolting I don’t smell that bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Disappointing. Now I have lost all faith in the leadership, strategic planning and direction of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southstandoriginal Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: No mention of how long his contract is?? They won't give us all the bad news in one lump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Utterly deflated. Listening to him answering GT's questions...he sounds nice enough, but amateur night. Simply not a serious appointment. Can't be bothered to waste too much time worrying how it will work out. Good luck Dean, you'll need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayOutWest Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Mediocre mediocre Mediocre. He will have my support. But I can tell you I am massively disappointed with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 We will forever be the bridesmaid under this ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: Sensible appointment. Come on Dean, prove them all wrong who have somehow made up in their heads you're a shit manager. Sensible you must be on the wind up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Seriously impressed how we managed to poach two of England's youth set up coaches, with solid pedigree as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, JonDolman said: Sensible appointment. Come on Dean, prove them all wrong who have somehow made up in their heads you're a shit manager. Sensible appointment? **** off! I swear you just go against the grain to look for a reaction. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Seneca the Younger said: No mention of how long his contract is?? 3 years to begin with, with an automatic 6 year extension if he beats Tiverton Town in a friendly and does all his paperwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 So unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Decision made. Although utterly underwhelmed I will wait and see how Deano does. My hunch is: 1) No proven manager would accept the restrictions/limitations required. 2) DH is considered the best option, right now, given nobody else would accept the post or those who would didn’t tick our boxes. 3) He will be given x months, which will indicate if he has what it takes or not. 4) The x months buys time to seek out a replacement. Worse case scenario - he fails spectacularly and in x months we are in dire trouble and staring at relegation. Best case scenario - he succeeds spectacularly and proves he is a quality head coach and we are all delighted to have witnessed his success. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petelekg Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 16 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said: Yep. I won't be bothering this season. The club have let the fans down. Give the bloke a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, WayOutWest said: Mediocre mediocre Mediocre. He will have my support. But I can tell you I am massively disappointed with this. Is it even a mediocre appointment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UREDZ Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Lets be honest, we are a small time outfit with no ambition. Teams like Wigan, Sunderland and Pompey will be back in the Prem before we ever get there!! Ashton and co can do one, i stopped buying the Bristol Sport Crap years back and haven't stepped foot in Ashton Gate for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Jerseybean said: Decision made. Although utterly underwhelmed I will wait and see how Deano does. My hunch is: 1) No proven manager would accept the restrictions/limitations required. 2) DH is considered the best option, right now, given nobody else would accept the post or those who would didn’t tick our boxes. 3) He will be given x months, which will indicate if he has what it takes or not. 4) The x months buys time to seek out a replacement. Worse case scenario - he fails spectacularly and in x months we are in dire trouble and staring at relegation. Best case scenario - he succeeds spectacularly and proves he is a quality head coach and we are all delighted to have witnessed his success. Only time will tell. Listening to Holden on Sound of the City he gives the impression he wasn’t first choice, he kept mentioning ‘ego’. Thought he spoke well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, petelekg said: Give the bloke a chance I'll keep an eye on the results. I like the bloke as he's down to earth and passionate. But my enthusiasm is very low at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Dean Holden is a bloody legend. I think he bridges the gap well between the corporate suits and the predominantly working class fanbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I really really hope Dean proves me wrong because he genuinely sounds like a great guy. I’ve got no doubt he’ll do everything he can to make this a success. I just have a nagging feeling it’s going to go badly wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Agree with all of that Foggers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Phileas Fogg said: I really really hope Dean proves me wrong because he genuinely sounds like a great guy. I’ve got no doubt he’ll do everything he can to make this a success. I just have a nagging feeling it’s going to go badly wrong.. Is it wrong that I actually want it to be a truly epic disaster to give the Lansdown’s the boot up the ******* backside they need to stop making the same mistakes, time after time? To make THIS appointment at THIS stage of our recent development is just absolutely mind boggling to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Island Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, JonDolman said: In these times I think it is. And what I saw from him in charge I was quite impressed. So yes I think it is a pretty sensible move. Hoping it's a 12 month contract with year or 2 year option for club. Impressed with what exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red white and red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, JonDolman said: In these times I think it is. And what I saw from him in charge I was quite impressed. So yes I think it is a pretty sensible move. Hoping it's a 12 month contract with year or 2 year option for club. Impressed with his 5 games in charge? We beat 2 shite teams in Hull and Middlesbrough, got dominated by stoke, never looked like doing anything against Swansea and the Preston game was a typical, mid-table, dour, end of season affair. What impressed you? just admit you’re on the wind up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Well that’s that then. Not going to hide that I’m unsure and not exhilarated by this but obviously hope that he knocks it out the park. Looking for silver linings; two successful England youth managers in as assistants, I hope we see a lot more young lads in the first team picture - would prefer the likes of Joe Bryan seeing success in our colours moving forwards. Come on, Dean; show us what you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, The Bard said: Are the coaches your own choices? "Yes" Definitely a positive if that’s the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Whats the odds on us to go down this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, BRISTOL86 said: Is it wrong that I actually want it to be a truly epic disaster to give the Lansdown’s the boot up the ******* backside they need to stop making the same mistakes, time after time? To make THIS appointment at THIS stage of our recent development is just absolutely mind boggling to me. This coming from you kind of says it all. And that isnt meant as an insult. I'd class you as one of the more positive posters on here, and not one to get frustrated too easily. And I agree. A small part of me wants it to go completely tits up to teach the two clowns a lesson. They wont learn though. Too arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Poor appointment, terribly handled which will end badly. I'll be truly delighted to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, BCFC Grim said: This coming from you kind of says it all. And that isnt meant as an insult. I'd class you as one of the more positive posters on here, and not one to get frustrated too easily. And I agree. A small part of me wants it to go completely tits up to teach the two clowns a lesson. They wont learn though. Too arrogant. Yep, I feel absolutely sucker punched by the whole thing. I’ve genuinely never felt so disappointed in the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDBS36 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Lansdown wanted a fresh face with fresh ideals to take on to the next step of the promised land Think he's failed in my opinion, think we all knew it would be the easy option of appointing Dean, waste of time sacking Lee, truly hope I,m wrong but think it's going to be a struggle and I now lost my love of the club and will not be renewing my season tickets People saying they were impressed with his 5 games in charge, beat 2 relegation contenders, drew 1 and lost 2, not that impressive Feel free to slate me but am very down knowing we could have had a manager like CH or even PC and have ended up with DH, just feels like the club has no ambition and we have been ripped off again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 month rolling contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 DEAN-NO, DEAN-NO, DEAN OH, **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirscrumpton Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Very interesting that Ashton keeps saying Dean is the RIGHT man and not the BEST man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo2345 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Holden says in his interview he knows what the fans want.... so why the hell is he still here.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 12 month rolling contract says it all btw. Cheapest way to sack someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Wilson Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: 12 month rolling contract Ah, good to see the board are confident in their decisions then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ashton confirmed Holden signed off Korey Smith being released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42104RED Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On the poll, 83% of the fans basically said they did not want Holden, so what do City do? They give him the job. Great way to piss off, and on the fan base. I hope he's successful, but can't see this as a good appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Ashton's expectations of Holden - in interview with Geoff - expecting to be challenging for promotion - but if not that does't mean he'll be sacked. "there is no target for his job.' Read into that what you will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 \Thought Holden came over very well in his 20man interview. Straight talking Manchester lad. I hope he does what he says and plays good football . I'm happy in the Championship it's a great League and we are nearer the bottom than the top in size of club. If I was to choose from guaranteed Championship football for the next few years or 50/50 we will be either promoted or relegated next season I'd take the Championship every time. If we compete and play well more often than not I will be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I wish Holden all the best. Wish him luck... ...Think he'll need it! I like what he said, spoke well. I think he needs to tweak somewhat his shape- Weimann and Wells could partner in the 3-5-2, up front that is. Not very inspiring however. Let's see how it goes...saw some positive signs in those 5 games but I fear he won't build on them. I think I'm in a bit of a state of shock tbh! Disbelieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 A whole host of players liking the club's post resgarding the appointment. It's time for those players to pull their fingers out of their backsides and perform how they should be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Red Exile said: Ashton's expectations of Holden - in interview with Geoff - expecting to be challenging for promotion - but if not that does't mean he'll be sacked. "there is no target for his job.' Read into that what you will... Blimey, must ask my boss if I can forget my targets. I suspect there is a target and that is to do what Ashton tells him and don't answer back. Oh, and to take all the flak that Ashton should be getting, so two targets then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: 12 month rolling contract That's smart. I wish him all the best, not least as a successful City is what we all want, but I wonder if we are looking to give Holden the job as a safe pair of hands and then go for a bigger name in summer 2021? Too optimistic a take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: That's smart. I wish him all the best, not least as a successful City is what we all want, but I wonder if we are looking to give Holden the job as a safe pair of hands and then go for a bigger name in summer 2021? Too optimistic a take? I honestly don’t know Mr P . All smacks of desperation to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: That's smart. I wish him all the best, not least as a successful City is what we all want, but I wonder if we are looking to give Holden the job as a safe pair of hands and then go for a bigger name in summer 2021? Too optimistic a take? Yes, too optimistic. Ashton would never appoint someone who won't bend the need to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, P'head Red said: A whole host of players liking the club's post resgarding the appointment. It's time for those players to pull their fingers out of their backsides and perform how they should be able to. Yep. If he's as popular with them as we're led to believe then they've got no excuse for not putting a shift in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I'm confident we'll see more exciting football this season. I'm confident we'll see some very good youngsters getting a chance, which I love to see. I'm also confident we won't be in the Prem in a years time but I'll accept the 1st two. Just hope I can be there to see at least some of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Johnson was relatively unpopular from the off following on from his playing days when there was more than a whiff of suspicion that he wasn’t a particularly gifted player in a relatively talented squad, but was still automatically on the team sheet due to nepotism. Plus the fact that he had a very modest managerial CV. Fast forward 4.5 years and we appoint a bloke who is virtually universally unpopular given his inextricable part in the previous regime, the suspicion he was the cheap and cheerful option, the powers-that-be faffed around for five weeks only to make an in-house appointment, and he has an even less prestigious managerial track record. Holden had his chance in the last few games of the season to demonstrate he was capable of doing the job full-time, and fell far short of showing anything of the sort. There were about a zillion names bandied around since LJ slung his hook and this rigmarole has carried on, and every single one of them would likely have been preferable to the man they plumped for. Nothing personal against the bloke, of course - the ire and frustration is solely directed at the club for the latest in a series of stupefying decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: I honestly don’t know Mr P . All smacks of desperation to me Yeah, I know what you mean. Makes two of us, none of this makes any sense if we want manager to take us forward- am just thinking of any number of names who are more credible. Hoping there's some kind of masterplan however. I think 14 players only in contract next summer. Holden keeps us steady, finances of football start to rebuild over next 12 months. This would give a new manager a relatively blank canvas to work with and I mean a more experienced, strong candidate. Lots of wages off the books, one or two maybe sold this year and some maybe renewed but a fairly clean slate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: I really really hope Dean proves me wrong because he genuinely sounds like a great guy. I’ve got no doubt he’ll do everything he can to make this a success. I just have a nagging feeling it’s going to go badly wrong.. Couldn't agree more. Dean Holden comes across as a top bloke - I've met him twice, but both times he was willing to speak candidly with me, and clearly backs himself. I'd love for him to be a huge success at City, and I'd genuinely feel bad if it went horribly wrong in the next six months for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Med/MadHatter Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: That's smart. I wish him all the best, not least as a successful City is what we all want, but I wonder if we are looking to give Holden the job as a safe pair of hands and then go for a bigger name in summer 2021? Too optimistic a take? I think they are maybe waiting for Eddie Howe now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yeah, I know what you mean. Makes two of us, none of this makes any sense if we want manager to take us forward- am just thinking of any number of names who are more credible. Hoping there's some kind of masterplan however. I think 14 players only in contract next summer. Holden keeps us steady, finances of football start to rebuild over next 12 months. This would give a new manager a relatively blank canvas to work with and I mean a more experienced, strong candidate. Lots of wages off the books, one or two maybe sold this year and some maybe renewed but a fairly clean slate! The contract length just makes it more confusing to me . It’s like they are expecting him to fail . As for players and contracts that is just part and parcel of football that every club face . I really hope he does well but if he doesn’t they go through it all again. Strange times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedRA Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, P'head Red said: A whole host of players liking the club's post resgarding the appointment. It's time for those players to pull their fingers out of their backsides and perform how they should be able to. Never forget that the players chose 7 Nation Army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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