DaveInSA Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 This is an Ashton out thread... ....why? 1) Overseen the most injuries in one season in living memory 2) The players purchased are getting worse season after season the quality of the squad, is trousers. 3) The league position is getting worse season after season 4) The football is so awful I refuse to watch it 5) The coaches appointed are not good enough 6) We're overweight in midfield, with absolutely not good enough players 7) We buy players with no thought of a system or way of playing Where is our next 8million plus player sale coming from 9) What is the actual plan And because all roads lead to Ashton, all roads in turn lead to Lansdown. Steve and Jon, get your house in order lads. Get rid of this leech and get some well respected football people in. Perhaps then we might make some progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The fish tots from the head down. Ashton is a cancerous wart on our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 He needs to **** off as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 We will never get a decent manager with Ashton in charge, can’t believe we could have got Hughton, a class act ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I really dont understand the hate for Ashton. No way does he make the main decisions. SL makes those, always has and always will while he putting HIS money in to the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 No they don’t. All roads lead to Lansdown. Ashton is just his patsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: We will never get a decent manager with Ashton in charge, can’t believe we could have got Hughton, a class act ! Ashtons a puppet , with Lansdown the puppet master He does what the boss wants , and picks up his £500k Holden was a Jon and Steve Lansdown appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: I really dont understand the hate for Ashton. No way does he make the main decisions. SL makes those, always has and always will while he putting HIS money in to the club Exactly. I’m no fan of his but I don’t really see him... he’s just SL’s mouthpiece/enforcer. I he wasn’t doing what SL wanted he’d have been sacked. All the frustration needs to be at SL’s door. He’s the common denominator over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Ashtons a puppet , with Lansdown the puppet master He does what the boss wants , and picks up his £500k Holden was a Jon and Steve Lansdown appointment Jon Lansdown haven’t heard from him for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Ashtons a puppet , with Lansdown the puppet master He does what the boss wants , and picks up his £500k Holden was a Jon and Steve Lansdown appointment How do you know this ? Jon looked very awkward when asked about why they appointed him, almost as if he didn’t want him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: I really dont understand the hate for Ashton. No way does he make the main decisions. SL makes those, always has and always will while he putting HIS money in to the club Seems to me he makes the decisions and the transfers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, DaveInSA said: This is an Ashton out thread... ....why? 1) Overseen the most injuries in one season in living memory 2) The players purchased are getting worse season after season the quality of the squad, is trousers. 3) The league position is getting worse season after season 4) The football is so awful I refuse to watch it 5) The coaches appointed are not good enough 6) We're overweight in midfield, with absolutely not good enough players 7) We buy players with no thought of a system or way of playing Where is our next 8million plus player sale coming from 9) What is the actual plan And because all roads lead to Ashton, all roads in turn lead to Lansdown. Steve and Jon, get your house in order lads. Get rid of this leech and get some well respected football people in. Perhaps then we might make some progress. How is he responsible for injuries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: How do you know this ? Jon looked very awkward when asked about why they appointed him, almost as if he didn’t want him 3 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: Seems to me he makes the decisions and the transfers You seriously think that Holden was Ashtons appointment , and the Lansdowns , what ...just went along with it ? Go back one .......How about Johnson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Jon Lansdown haven’t heard from him for a while You won’t hear from the Lansdown’s not while the going is shit. Unless it’s an SL petulant “my club, I’ll do what I want” comment. Expect to see Steve next, patting himself on the back, when we’re getting promoted back to the championship in a few years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, BigTone said: How is he responsible for injuries? Simples. His team recruit, his fitness gurus train, his medical team make assessments and recuperate, his manager selects, his coaches train. Injuries in the workplace are ultimately his responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: You seriously think that Holden was Ashtons appointment , and the Lansdowns , what ...just went along with it ? Go back one .......How about Johnson ? Johnson was Lansdown’s appointment, Holden was Ashton’s I believe , yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Mendip City said: You won’t hear from the Lansdown’s not while the going is shit. Unless it’s an SL petulant “my club, I’ll do what I want” comment. Expect to see Steve next, patting himself on the back, when we’re getting promoted back to the championship in a few years time. It takes us , on average 8 years to get up from L1 !!! Meanwhile Brentford score another four away from home (so far ) 1 minute ago, LoyalRed said: Johnson was Lansdown’s appointment, Holden was Ashton’s I believe , yes Based on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: It takes us , on average 8 years to get up from L1 !!! Meanwhile Brentford score another four away from home (so far ) Based on ? Based on my thoughts, I asked you the similar question also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendip City Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: It takes us , on average 8 years to get up from L1 !!! I know! I couldn’t bring myself to write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthStand Sandwich Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Disagree... Lansdown does not want to get involved in the day to day... Hence Ashton's is given carte blanche to do whatever he wants. Lansdown junior is more of a figurehead... Minister without portfolio, and there because he's Steve's son. Get that slippery so n so out fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, RedRock said: Simples. His team recruit, his fitness gurus train, his medical team make assessments and recuperate, his manager selects, his coaches train. Injuries in the workplace are ultimately his responsibility. Of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Sack Ashton....let TinMan have a go at least he’s got the clubs interest at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: Based on my thoughts, I asked you the similar question also Well mine is based on Lansdowns previous choices and his prominent role in them and the fact that he has set out the clear ethos of his ‘vision’ and the fact that he was involved in the recruitment process with his son and Ashton And the small fact he bankrolls the whole thing So you think of the three , neither the Billionaire Owner , or his Chairman son wanted a Holden - It was their expensive laccy ? OK then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Well mine is based on Lansdowns previous choices and his prominent role in them and the fact that he has set out the clear ethos of his ‘vision’ and the fact that he was involved in the recruitment process with his son and Ashton And the small fact he bankrolls the whole thing So you think of the three , neither the Billionaire Owner , or his Chairman son wanted a Holden - It was their expensive laccy ? OK then I think they have let him run the ship yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 20 minutes ago, LoyalRed said: We will never get a decent manager with Ashton in charge, can’t believe we could have got Hughton, a class act ! We will never get a decent manager with Lansdown in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, City1970 said: We will never get a decent manager with Lansdown in charge. Thought we had some decent managers under SL, we were inches away from the Premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Let’s get this right.Ashton is the CEO of a family business of which he is not a member. Ashton is responsible for the day-to-day running of said business. He does not make any major decisions without the sign-off of the owner that is an absolute certainty. He can ‘spin’ the decisions to the owner and put his angle on them but ultimately he does what he is told. Do not misunderstand, I despise the man and his persona but he is really not the problem, he is a YES man and is well rewarded for it. He will soon be gone as I expect his ambitions lie in a role at the EFL or the PL BUT, his departure will change nothing. The problem is an owner who believes that he can get PL football doing it his ‘way’. I have a huge respect for SL as a self-made man but on this one he is utterly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1970 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, LoyalRed said: Thought we had some decent managers under SL, we were inches away from the Premiership We never made the Premiership. The amount of money the club have spent over the years including the cost of the academy, I would have expected Premiership football by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I’ve always thought LJ was SLs appointment but have the impression that he expects MA to make recommendations which SL then signs off, giving SL his rightful veto. I would guess that DH was a MA / JL appointment sanctioned by SL. I may be miles out but that’s how I see it. Clearly DH was not the right appointment and the ‘entertainment’ promised has not been delivered. Whose fault that is may be immaterial but MA, as said before, runs BCFC so must be held accountable for this rubbish, shouldn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 He’s “in charge of all football matters”. We don’t have a 1st Team Manager. We don’t have a Head of Recruitment. We don’t have a Chief Scout. We don’t have a Director of Football. We have 1 person who is in control of everything. So, when footballing performances and results are poor, the person who is self confessed “in charge of all football matters”, is surely the one who is responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Jon Lansdown haven’t heard from him for a while Probably sunning himself somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Jon Lansdown haven’t heard from him for a while Got himself stuck in one of those Chinese finger traps you get in crackers at Christmas and has been taking up all his time trying figure out how to get out since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, Harry said: He’s “in charge of all football matters”. We don’t have a 1st Team Manager. We don’t have a Head of Recruitment. We don’t have a Chief Scout. We don’t have a Director of Football. We have 1 person who is in control of everything. So, when footballing performances and results are poor, the person who is self confessed “in charge of all football matters”, is surely the one who is responsible. Indeed, and all he has to do when it gets too hot is get rid of the Head Coach again and reinstall another firewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I can see the scenario when MA schooled DH into what he needed to say at the interview to become the standout applicant. DH is on a no lose situation he gives it a go if it works great if not he is out of a job with a nice years pay. Whilst MA has his man in the job working within MA's dictate and who is not going to undermine him to SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, BS3_RED said: I really dont understand the hate for Ashton. No way does he make the main decisions. SL makes those, always has and always will while he putting HIS money in to the club He is, in the club's words, in control of all day to day football operations. If he isn't in fact responsible for anything why are we paying him £500k a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, LoyalRed said: We will never get a decent manager with Ashton in charge, can’t believe we could have got Hughton, a class act ! Now only 7 points behind us without a preseason ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Nobody in authority seems to care. Must be the Lansdowns interested in the tax write-off. Money, money, money is all that matters. Don't know why we are still eagerly following when its the same every week, many years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, City1970 said: We never made the Premiership. The amount of money the club have spent over the years including the cost of the academy, I would have expected Premiership football by now. Championship is a very expensive League. That said others have done more with less but simply looking at expenditure, it isn't really that relevant a marker in some respects. It also overlooks the fact that we've had to fast track certain things- many other clubs had corporate revenue, higher revenue streams, better training grounds before we did- that expenditure was in some ways starting to bring us up to speed....arguably our Academy needed work too. ...How it is spent, this is an issue! Think we need to look at the Fitness and Medical teams, Recruitment and Scouting setups and the Coaching etc. Had we rolled the dice in January 2008, maybe we would have done it- before any of this catchup on the Infrastructure side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, LoyalRed said: How do you know this ? Jon looked very awkward when asked about why they appointed him, almost as if he didn’t want him Probably because he knew the fans would see through his bullshit reasoning on the laughable appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, chinapig said: He is, in the club's words, in control of all day to day football operations. If he isn't in fact responsible for anything why are we paying him £500k a year? Indeed. An absolute scandalous salary by the way - I wouldn’t pay the *** £30k a year let alone £500k!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, bris red said: Indeed. An absolute scandalous salary by the way - I wouldn’t pay the *** £30k a year let alone £500k!!!!!! Get shot and get our salaried Chairman to take the job on, he seems to do fark all anyway so has plenty of time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcityfan Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Ashton is no puppet. Steve Lansdown is a very busy man. He has delegated the football side of things to this clever gentleman. Now to understand what Ashton is actually all about I implore anyone who really wants to know to read 'Broken Dreams - Vanity, greed and the souring of British Football' by Tom Bower. It is researched fact, not a fictitious novel. And even this is the tip of the iceberg. It doesn't matter what the quality of the players involved in the transfers actually is, just that they happen on a regular and unecessary basis . The kick backs are enormous and all the people involved in the deals are on the take. If you are not people think there is something wrong, they sniff a rat, you can't play the game, so you take. So the estimated £500k basic pay is by no means only what he is on. The odd quality 'bit of business' signing whether it is a sale or purchase is necessary to cover the tracks. I don't usually make a long post like this but the fact that there is no hierarchy, no-one to pull him up on anything, and I mean anything, means that until he is gone this club will not go forward. This CEO is not working for Bristol City Football Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, DaveInSA said: This is an Ashton out thread... ....why? 1) Overseen the most injuries in one season in living memory 2) The players purchased are getting worse season after season the quality of the squad, is trousers. 3) The league position is getting worse season after season 4) The football is so awful I refuse to watch it 5) The coaches appointed are not good enough 6) We're overweight in midfield, with absolutely not good enough players 7) We buy players with no thought of a system or way of playing Where is our next 8million plus player sale coming from 9) What is the actual plan And because all roads lead to Ashton, all roads in turn lead to Lansdown. Steve and Jon, get your house in order lads. Get rid of this leech and get some well respected football people in. Perhaps then we might make some progress. Roads will be leading to Lansdown shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 You are correct in that Mark Ashton is a big part of the problem. Is the bloke on the Channel Islands that bothered is my question? Today was a Derby game and that was the most spineless, gutless performance we could possibly have mustered. I think today broke new ground in terms of lack of performance. I have defended Dean Holden but that today was indefensible in every way. That wasn’t 70 minutes of total shit with 20 minutes of play thrown in, that was just 90 minutes of pure dross. Until the guy in Guernsey decides he is unhappy nothing changes at his football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Roads will be leading to Lansdown shortly. Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: He employed Holden to secure his position and maintain power and control.....he knew a yes man with limited depth who will be in his debt would work in his favour. Mark Ashton priority is not getting Bristol city promoted or our financial footing, his priority will always be Mark Ashton and every decision he makes that ois his number 1 priority.....and we the fans are paying the price for it. No other championship club operates in this way giving a top job to someone so unqualified they wouldn't even be in the betting hat for a league 2 vacancy. Had enough of it now if you think I'm spending my hard earned cash to wstch this shit anymore they can do one. Ashton you are taking the piss out of all of us you slimy second hand knock off Nigel dodgy 2nd hand car salesman tory politician spin machine. Get out of the club!!!! In your first line there lies the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Just now, Ska Junkie said: Which one? Won’t be Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Which one? Can’t be Jon, he’s legally proscribed from operating a motor vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SODS_LAW Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Don’t get this, he’s provided a very good squad of players. the coach isn’t good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludge Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: You are correct in that Mark Ashton is a big part of the problem. Is the bloke on the Channel Islands that bothered is my question? Today was a Derby game and that was the most spineless, gutless performance we could possibly have mustered. I think today broke new ground in terms of lack of performance. I have defended Dean Holden but that today was indefensible in every way. That wasn’t 70 minutes of total shit with 20 minutes of play thrown in, that was just 90 minutes of pure dross. Until the guy in Guernsey decides he is unhappy nothing changes at his football club. Doesn’t even look like a Lansdown exit strategy at the mo. Just looks like no strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Won’t be Jon. What does our Chairman do then? Next to naff all as far as I know. Daddy is certainly looking after his boy isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, SODS_LAW said: Don’t get this, he’s provided a very good squad of players. the coach isn’t good enough. Who recommended said coach Sods_Law promising a new, adventurous style, far removed from the previous incumbent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, paulcityfan said: Ashton is no puppet. Steve Lansdown is a very busy man. He has delegated the football side of things to this clever gentleman. Now to understand what Ashton is actually all about I implore anyone who really wants to know to read 'Broken Dreams - Vanity, greed and the souring of British Football' by Tom Bower. It is researched fact, not a fictitious novel. And even this is the tip of the iceberg. It doesn't matter what the quality of the players involved in the transfers actually is, just that they happen on a regular and unecessary basis . The kick backs are enormous and all the people involved in the deals are on the take. If you are not people think there is something wrong, they sniff a rat, you can't play the game, so you take. So the estimated £500k basic pay is by no means only what he is on. The odd quality 'bit of business' signing whether it is a sale or purchase is necessary to cover the tracks. I don't usually make a long post like this but the fact that there is no hierarchy, no-one to pull him up on anything, and I mean anything, means that until he is gone this club will not go forward. This CEO is not working for Bristol City Football Club. On a wider point I read a few weeks back that Fifa has been sitting on a report on corruption in the transfer market for at least 18 months. Too many people are doing too well out of it for anybody to act though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 33 minutes ago, Bassomylord said: He employed Holden to secure his position and maintain power and control.....he knew a yes man with limited depth who will be in his debt would work in his favour. Mark Ashton priority is not getting Bristol city promoted or our financial footing, his priority will always be Mark Ashton and every decision he makes that ois his number 1 priority.....and we the fans are paying the price for it. No other championship club operates in this way giving a top job to someone so unqualified they wouldn't even be in the betting hat for a league 2 vacancy. Had enough of it now if you think I'm spending my hard earned cash to wstch this shit anymore they can do one. Ashton you are taking the piss out of all of us you slimy second hand knock off Nigel dodgy 2nd hand car salesman tory politician spin machine. Get out of the club!!!! Some of this I agree with some of it not! 1 He would have to be trying to be pretty clever if this was his thought process, knowing he will be blamed for Dean Holden’s failure. However the thought that a seasoned manager would accept control of a football CEO is divorced from reality, nevertheless we don’t know how much Ashton exerts control over Holden, with team selections or suggested signings. 2 Most peoples number one priority is themselves and their family, is Bristol City Mark Ashton’s main priority, I doubt that, before himself (and family), that makes him the same as most of us! 3 Unqualified. I think you are referring to Holden? I think he is as qualified as most managers academically (coaching etc). Experienced, nah, nowhere near enough. It was the exact same punt as hiring LJ. If it comes off its a great move, but the likelihood of failure has increased. Let’s face it most of our team were signed under LJ and are currently producing the same dross! 4 Yeah I turned over to watch the Rugby. I paid at the start of the season, so my money is in, but having watched utter garbage for four years has taken its toll. Nevertheless I’ll be back on Wednesday! 5 Mark Ashton will need to take a huge slice of blame for what is going on. I get it we have injuries, but there is no excuse for an inability to make a forward pass by any professional of any age. 6 I expect him gone at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: You are correct in that Mark Ashton is a big part of the problem. Is the bloke on the Channel Islands that bothered is my question? Today was a Derby game and that was the most spineless, gutless performance we could possibly have mustered. I think today broke new ground in terms of lack of performance. I have defended Dean Holden but that today was indefensible in every way. That wasn’t 70 minutes of total shit with 20 minutes of play thrown in, that was just 90 minutes of pure dross. Until the guy in Guernsey decides he is unhappy nothing changes at his football club. Mr Lansdown doesn’t like admitting he got it wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Jon Lansdown haven’t heard from him for a while Another long-term injury to add to our ever-growing list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 The supporters could see from space that appointing Dean Holden as manager was going to result in, at best, a continuation of the colourless displays and poor results we endured under Lee Johnson given he was so closely associated with the previous regime. I keep hearing people say SL doesn’t want top-flight football. That might be true but surely he doesn’t want L1 football? Perhaps not this season but that is the way it is heading if we keep on down this road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Mr Lansdown doesn’t like admitting he got it wrong And until he does nothing will change. The team and management are sinking. Losing any identity, spirit or pride that was left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Ashton is busy erecting the diversion signs as we write. Don't expect a U-turn anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 We're on the road to Hell. Heaven help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, bris red said: Indeed. An absolute scandalous salary by the way - I wouldn’t pay the *** £30k a year let alone £500k!!!!!! Don't know if it's that out of kilter with the market rate for that position, at this level- in the South at a club with the infrastructure we have- £30m Business if we include the Group. Not defending, but it seems like it isn't wildly excessive in that context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SODS_LAW Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Who recommended said coach Sods_Law promising a new, adventurous style, far removed from the previous incumbent? Lansdowns choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, Olé said: Indeed, and all he has to do when it gets too hot is get rid of the Head Coach again and reinstall another firewall. Yep. And the mugs in our support will fall for it hook, line and sinker and direct all their frustrations at the Head Coach. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 To hell with it, I am definitely going to burn my "I Mark Ashton t-shirt" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, SODS_LAW said: Lansdowns choice Was it WTGR? As I remember last summer, MA and JL interviewed all candidates and 'recommended DH as the outstanding puppet candidate' to SL. I assume SLs part of the process is little more than a box ticking exercise TBH. I may well be wrong and SL is a great deal more 'hands on' than I thought but his CEO runs the club as far as I know while SL funds it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SODS_LAW Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said: Was it WTGR? As I remember last summer, MA and JL interviewed all candidates and 'recommended DH as the outstanding puppet candidate' to SL. I assume SLs part of the process is little more than a box ticking exercise TBH. I may well be wrong and SL is a great deal more 'hands on' than I thought but his CEO runs the club as far as I know while SL funds it. SL makes all the decisions mate, Mark Ashton would have wanted a top quality coach because it’s not his money. Trust me what we here that Happens is rarely what actually happens. holden could of worked out but it hasn’t, time for change. Just don’t see why Ashton gets the stick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontariored Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, Greedo said: Can’t be Jon, he’s legally proscribed from operating a motor vehicle Isn't Jon a Muppet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: Ashtons a puppet , with Lansdown the puppet master He does what the boss wants , and picks up his £500k Holden was a Jon and Steve Lansdown appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Was it WTGR? As I remember last summer, MA and JL interviewed all candidates and 'recommended DH as the outstanding puppet candidate' to SL. I assume SLs part of the process is little more than a box ticking exercise TBH. I may well be wrong and SL is a great deal more 'hands on' than I thought but his CEO runs the club as far as I know while SL funds it. Reckon he became a lot less hands on when he went to Guernsey, but purely a hunch. Ashton aside...I have a lot less faith in JL than I had in SL. If SL officially retires and puts JL in charge...don't have a good feeling about that prospect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun Taylor Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 We're miles apart in league status and stature but have the same problem both teams have shite managers but at least you don't have a crook as a chairman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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