Ivorguy Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Sorry to say it but Pearson is over the hill and washed up I really was so positive about his appointment and feel he has let himself and all of us down The team tonight looked uninterested and lost. Where the .... do we go from here? We are in a terrible place as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Still can’t decide about Pearson, simply because I don’t know who would do well with this group of players. But I agree that we are in a massive, massive mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Sorry to say it but Pearson is over the hill and washed up I really was so positive about his appointment and feel he has let himself and all of us down The team tonight looked uninterested and lost. Where the .... do we go from here? We are in a terrible place as a club. I wasn't convinced from the beginning and playing Fam all the time has reinforced that feeling. Not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Got to remember this is still a squad that has 14 injuries at the moment, not even counting Mawson after he was sent back. The bench is packed with u23’s players as a result. So Pearson firstly can’t call on 5 senior players he wants to bring off the bench as subs to change the game and he can’t rotate the starting XI too much because there’s a lack of senior players available. There’s only so much any manager at the moment could do with the squad of players available to him. The manager can’t also account for a player sticking his arm out to block the ball in the area in extra time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 At some point the players need to take responsibility - look at Rovers. Yes they are shite but 3 different managers this season and they’ve got progressively worse with each one - there’s only so much polishing of a turd you can do. Same applies to City, - lots of players out of contract in the summer who know they are moving on, lots of hasbeens/never-will-bes, a collection of unfit mysteries, a couple of good pros and some promising youngsters. The perform storm for a lack of motivation and cohesion - a sizeable percentage of this squad will be gone in the summer and they are playing like it and unfortunately I’m not sure any manager would be able to improve us much with the current situation. I still want NP to get the job, on the proviso he genuinely wants to commit to it long term and he will be given the backing to create his own squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 This man has brought nothing to the table in footballing nouce , I think there’s better motivators out there , we want attacking on the grass football at Ashton gate not kick and chase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 This squad gave up playing for the club weeks ago. Pep Guardiola couldn't motivate this load of bell ends or get them playing. We need a clear out, heavy reinvestment and to trust either Pearson or someone else to rebuild. You can forget promotion for a couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Pearson has been a big disappointment so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Gary Johnson had a terrible losing run when he took over but SL stuck with him and Gary turned it round. Steve, if you’re bored and reading this, stick with Nigel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Lrrr said: Got to remember this is still a squad that has 14 injuries at the moment, not even counting Mawson after he was sent back. The bench is packed with u23’s players as a result. So Pearson firstly can’t call on 5 senior players he wants to bring off the bench as subs to change the game and he can’t rotate the starting XI too much because there’s a lack of senior players available. There’s only so much any manager at the moment could do with the squad of players available to him. The manager can’t also account for a player sticking his arm out to block the ball in the area in extra time. I don’t want to see FD playing for us again but he remains our top scorer with ten, measly, goals and is capable of playing against big direct teams like tonight’s opposition. I can see why NP put him in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Magger1 said: This man has brought nothing to the table in footballing nouce , I think there’s better motivators out there , we want attacking on the grass football at Ashton gate not kick and chase How can you motivate players who know that they won't be here in 6 weeks? They've got nothing to play for. They're empty husks of players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I've been cold on him from the start. Pearson has had 11 league games now. So let's compare his numbers to Holden's last ten. Shots: DH - 64. NP - 83 Shots on target: DH - 21. NP - 26 Goals: DH - 9. NP - 10 xG: DH - 6.4. NP - 6.7 Shots against: DH - 143. NP - 158 Shots on target against: DH - 47. NP - 45 Goals against: DH - 20. NP - 15 xG against: DH - 15.8. NP - 19.3 Points: DH - 9. NP - 9 NP edges it, slightly, with a very rough 10-20% improvement in most areas, with an extra game played. Bigger improvements in attack than defence, and of course the end result has been 9 points a piece. It is pretty unspectacular, and suggests either that the problems run so deep within the squad that he cannot fix them, or that he's been unable to so far. Personally, I'd still give him the window and the start of next season as I don't think there's may out there that can be much worse. The amount of experimentation he's shown suggests to me that it's systemic issues rather than his own methods that cause these failures. I also suspect that Ashton's departure has impacted matters behind the scenes more than we might know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNachos Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Who do you suggest then? I'll back him purely on the fact this isn't his squad, is is a collection of MA misfits. We've been poor, but guardiola couldn't turn this group into play off contenders. I'm not excusing the performances but he is not the main problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I think long term these results will benefit us Not one of the out of contract players have done enough to earn a new contract or even show they want to be here not one has been able to pull the wool over NP eyes Great chance to have good clear out and rebuild Pearson is not the problem The players are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talk Of The Town Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Sorry to say it but Pearson is over the hill and washed up I really was so positive about his appointment and feel he has let himself and all of us down The team tonight looked uninterested and lost. Where the .... do we go from here? We are in a terrible place as a club. What about the players out there taking their wages and not showing any interest or desire? we have a bunch of poor mentally weak players. I wouldn’t trust or rely on half of them in a crisis. I’d have them out on their asses. The fans deserve more commitment from them. Life is being made even easier because we’re not in the stands having to watch these gutless frauds. none of these players are Nigel’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Pearson came here for a reason, we were in a right mess. It cannot be sorted out till the whole squad is remoulded. I am beginning to wonder if he is going to get the job myself now...I want him to get it and his own back room staff and the opportunity to create a squad in his image, not this pile of proverbial he inherited. My dosh is still sat in my account While I wait to see what happens in next 7 days before my season ticket is renewed....am i alone here thinking this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Sorry to say it but Pearson is over the hill and washed up I really was so positive about his appointment and feel he has let himself and all of us down The team tonight looked uninterested and lost. Where the .... do we go from here? We are in a terrible place as a club. You're not sorry. You absolutely revel in being miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hampshire Red said: Yet another woeful display brings out a few cert's on OTIB; 1) those who didnt like Lj for his 'awful football' have gone really,really quiet as the same squad look so defensively naive and unmotivated.2) those who didnt think Holden did a decent job are also very quiet, wondering like me, what has NP brought to the party. Surely the two other coaches must go and NP allowed to bring in his own players and coaches; losing to Wycome is really bad isnt it? You’re the one who keeps popping up on here with complete waffle Give NP the job but stop moaning when people have an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Desso said: I wasn't convinced from the beginning and playing Fam all the time has reinforced that feeling. Not for me. Oh for ****'s sake. He was one of our better players tonight. If you can't judge things objectively, don't judge them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 SL has still not met Nigel Pearson. FFS, is this bloke for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee dog Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 As all ready stated elsewhere we need to move a few on we have that opportunity with those out of contract as a starting point. Improved performance today but a long way from being acceptable. The rebuild will take a few seasons, hope Pearson stays & is given that time. As someone has already stated G Johnson lost 9 on the trot, building a team unfortunately takes time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixit Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I don’t want to see FD playing for us again but he remains our top scorer with ten, measly, goals and is capable of playing against big direct teams like tonight’s opposition. I can see why NP put him in the side. I can't see why NP has started NW at all! He plays like he's got a bet on the oppo's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ivorguy said: Sorry to say it but Pearson is over the hill and washed up I really was so positive about his appointment and feel he has let himself and all of us down The team tonight looked uninterested and lost. Where the .... do we go from here? We are in a terrible place as a club. You mean the players who cost Johnson and Holden their jobs,to think you have top players coming out against the super league while our gutless lot can’t even put the effort in to beat a relegated side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 You can’t judge him with this pile of shit I still think the squad has quality “on paper” they just aren’t interested Whoever let so many players run their contracts down like this at the same time has a lot to answer for. None of them has any interest in BCFC right now because they won’t be here next season. I don’t blame NP yet, though I did expect he’d get a better reaction out of some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desso Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Superjack said: Oh for ****'s sake. He was one of our better players tonight. If you can't judge things objectively, don't judge them at all. What, a bloke who can't control the ball, can't pass and isn't interested. Plus he isn't scoring either. Take off your rose coloured glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairweather Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I can’t get out of my head that Pearson was kept on at Leicester after keeping them up by a fine margin and a late surge. The guy who took over the team - recruited independently of the manager and including Mahrez, Kante Vardy et al - took that same team to the premiership title at 5000 to 1. Nothing is black and white in life. Managers aren’t brilliant or rubbish and circumstances are always a factor but it feels a bit SO’D. More of an approach rather than a blueprint and that puts me off the idea of giving him the keys to the whole show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: SL has still not met Nigel Pearson. FFS, is this bloke for real? Yes,yes he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Desso said: What, a bloke who can't control the ball, can't pass and isn't interested. Plus he isn't scoring either. Take off your rose coloured glasses. You need to take off your 'dark' glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, MarcusX said: You can’t judge him with this pile of shit I still think the squad has quality “on paper” they just aren’t interested Whoever let so many players run their contracts down like this at the same time has a lot to answer for. None of them has any interest in BCFC right now because they won’t be here next season. I don’t blame NP yet, though I did expect he’d get a better reaction out of some of them “Quality on paper”,Jordan was quality on paper but when you saw her up close she was garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Whoever is manager next season is on a hiding to nothing. I can't see it will be Pearson now, as much as i wanted him to turn us around. Next season looks like a nailed on disaster if were not relegated i will be amazed, this has to be the most gutless bunch i have ever seen and my time goes back to the mid 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihai Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Are we safe ? Normally we will lose 3 in a row and Rotherham has 2 remaining games. If derby win 3 in a row and Rotherham 4 we are relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: “Quality on paper”,Jordan was quality on paper but when you saw her up close she was garbage Wells has done the business elsewhere, right up until we bought him Lansburys got out of this league 3 times Kalas is an international CB Nagy also an international. Palmer has ability but lacks any sort of consistency and probably one of the players NP is saying is doing their own thing. So “on paper” they should be half decent, but they aren’t playing that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: “Quality on paper”,Jordan was quality on paper but when you saw her up close she was garbage She was one of the best managers we ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said: SL has still not met Nigel Pearson. FFS, is this bloke for real? When is supposed to have met him? People speculated that if Steve was on the plan flight tracked the very earliest Lansdown would have been able to leave isolation was today, hardly going to meet and discuss things on a match day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mihai said: Are we safe ? Normally we will lose 3 in a row and Rotherham has 2 remaining games. If derby win 3 in a row and Rotherham 4 we are relegated. What about the other teams between us those you mention - are they all relegated as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, MarcusX said: Wells has done the business elsewhere, right up until we bought him Lansburys got out of this league 3 times Kalas is an international CB Nagy also an international. Palmer has ability but lacks any sort of consistency and probably one of the players NP is saying is doing their own thing. So “on paper” they should be half decent, but they aren’t playing that way Wells record is no better then fammys and he’s crap by all accounts lansbury is a signing 5 years to late kalas and Nagy internationals,so was Carlton Palmer As for Palmer I give up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mihai said: Are we safe ? Normally we will lose 3 in a row and Rotherham has 2 remaining games. If derby win 3 in a row and Rotherham 4 we are relegated. If Derby win 3 in a row? They’ve won 2 of their last 14 and lost 4 in a row. Rotherham won 3 in 15. why do you think either are suddenly winning all their games? Also 5 other teams that need to win 1/2 games to go above us Its going to look a lot closer than many would have liked but we aren’t going down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: Wells record is no better then fammys and he’s crap by all accounts lansbury is a signing 5 years to late kalas and Nagy internationals,so was Carlton Palmer As for Palmer I give up Agree with all your points there in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, MarcusX said: If Derby win 3 in a row? They’ve won 2 of their last 14 and lost 4 in a row. Rotherham won 3 in 15. why do you think either are suddenly winning all their games? Also 5 other teams that need to win 1/2 games to go above us Its going to look a lot closer than many would have liked but we aren’t going down There are a few that can't work it out for themselves - I've now given up trying to explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, MarcusX said: If Derby win 3 in a row? They’ve won 2 of their last 14 and lost 4 in a row. Rotherham won 3 in 15. why do you think either are suddenly winning all their games? Also 5 other teams that need to win 1/2 games to go above us Its going to look a lot closer than many would have liked but we aren’t going down It’s remarkable really,like last night people saying rovers have to win every game left 3 zip and Wigan lose every game,some people are not good at maths it has to be said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, Superjack said: Oh for ****'s sake. He was one of our better players tonight. If you can't judge things objectively, don't judge them at all. He really was not. His touch was abysmal, was slowing down into the press, and our best chance of the second half wasted with a sloppy pull-back. How he can be anywhere near the team when he is off in a month is a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: He really was not. His touch was abysmal, was slowing down into the press, and our best chance of the second half wasted with a sloppy pull-back. How he can be anywhere near the team when he is off in a month is a mystery. I have no words in response. And not because you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Superjack said: I have no words in response. And not because you are right. Thanks for that. Useful response. He had not committed to the club, has no goals since Middlesbrough (a), on the 23rd Feb, and has shown very little desire for the cause. Hard to see how I am wrong really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: Thanks for that. Useful response. He had not committed to the club, has no goals since Middlesbrough (a), on the 23rd Feb, and has shown very little desire for the cause. Hard to see how I am wrong really. Hard for you to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Superjack said: Hard for you to see. Are you ok mate? You seem to have become reduced to subtle insinuation riddle-themed mystery one-liners rather than coherent debate based on fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: Are you ok mate? You seem to have become reduced to subtle insinuation riddle-themed mystery one-liners rather than coherent debate based on fact. A diatribe is not always needed. Sorry if you need an essay to get your brain around a point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, harvey54 said: This squad gave up playing for the club weeks ago. Pep Guardiola couldn't motivate this load of bell ends or get them playing. We need a clear out, heavy reinvestment and to trust either Pearson or someone else to rebuild. You can forget promotion for a couple of seasons. I think he could 1 hour ago, harvey54 said: How can you motivate players who know that they won't be here in 6 weeks? They've got nothing to play for. They're empty husks of players What happened to good old fashioned professionalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Superjack said: A diatribe is not always needed. Sorry if you need an essay to get your brain around a point of view. Hmmm ok. I probably need a bit more from you to understand your point of view when it is incredibly difficult to comprehend. Go well though mate, if you think Fam was one of our best out there tonight, let alone cannot question why he should even be playing then I am not sure I need to worry about getting my brain around anything. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: Hmmm ok. I probably need a bit more from you to understand your point of view when it is incredibly difficult to comprehend. Go well though mate, if you think Fam was one of our best out there tonight, let alone cannot question why he should even be playing then I am not sure I need to worry about getting my brain around anything. Wow. I don't actually think that he should be playing. I just don't let that affect my judgement of him when he crosses the white line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Globe Trotter said: At some point the players need to take responsibility - look at Rovers. Yes they are shite but 3 different managers this season and they’ve got progressively worse with each one - there’s only so much polishing of a turd you can do. Same applies to City, - lots of players out of contract in the summer who know they are moving on, lots of hasbeens/never-will-bes, a collection of unfit mysteries, a couple of good pros and some promising youngsters. The perform storm for a lack of motivation and cohesion - a sizeable percentage of this squad will be gone in the summer and they are playing like it and unfortunately I’m not sure any manager would be able to improve us much with the current situation. I still want NP to get the job, on the proviso he genuinely wants to commit to it long term and he will be given the backing to create his own squad. Look how poor results have been for Paul Cook at Ipswich. My neighbour is an Ipswich fan and says the squad is awful. And they will need a clear out and Cook given time and money to rebuild the squad. A manager many wanted to manage us. And they don't have our injury list. Pearson has the experience and track record to do this for us but needs time and support from SL to rebuild the squad. We will not find a better man for the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 36 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Wells record is no better then fammys and he’s crap by all accounts lansbury is a signing 5 years to late kalas and Nagy internationals,so was Carlton Palmer As for Palmer I give up Palmer's had far too long in a Bristol City shirt. He should be one of the first on the transfer list (followed not far behind by Kalas and Nagy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I do wonder about the radio silence from SL. Let's just speculate for a moment that DH was a stop gap while the talks on selling a stake in the club were ongoing. MA knew about this so was looking for a career move. DH went badly wrong and couldn't be kept. Hence a short term deal to take us to the summer when said deal is done. Decision on the new coach to be made by the new investor. Hence SL is sitting tight for now. Probably all a figment of my imagination but it would make some sense. I just can't see SL planning to take charge and sort all this out as he's seemed more interested in stepping away from running the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey54 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, AshtonGreat said: I think he could What happened to good old fashioned professionalism? I don't know. Ask someone like Paul Pogba who only plays when he wants to and wants £500k a week to do it. Players are mercenaries nowadays. Footballs a joke. Our squad haven't esrnt their wages this season. Get rid of the lot of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Redrascal2 said: Look how poor results have been for Paul Cook at Ipswich. My neighbour is an Ipswich fan and says the squad is awful. And they will need a clear out and Cook given time and money to rebuild the squad. A manager many wanted to manage us. And they don't have our injury list. Pearson has the experience and track record to do this for us but needs time and support from SL to rebuild the squad. We will not find a better man for the job This. ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, harvey54 said: I don't know. Ask someone like Paul Pogba who only plays when he wants to and wants £500k a week to do it. Players are mercenaries nowadays. Footballs a joke. Our squad haven't esrnt their wages this season. Get rid of the lot of them I wholeheartedly agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, harvey54 said: I don't know. Ask someone like Paul Pogba who only plays when he wants to and wants £500k a week to do it. Players are mercenaries nowadays. Footballs a joke. Our squad haven't esrnt their wages this season. Get rid of the lot of them Totally agree, but we are tied in to their contracts, we would have to pay them off. We can scarcely afford to pay a transfer fee, much less spend millions paying off some of the shite we are stuck with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Superjack said: I don't actually think that he should be playing. I just don't let that affect my judgement of him when he crosses the white line. If he was not playing (as you admit he shouldn’t be), then the judgement of him is irrelevant. The fact that he has not netted for 10+ games compounds this and hard to argue for an OOC non-committed, non-scoring striker my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 21, 2021 Admin Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: Got to remember this is still a squad that has 14 injuries at the moment, not even counting Mawson after he was sent back. The bench is packed with u23’s players as a result. So Pearson firstly can’t call on 5 senior players he wants to bring off the bench as subs to change the game and he can’t rotate the starting XI too much because there’s a lack of senior players available. There’s only so much any manager at the moment could do with the squad of players available to him. The manager can’t also account for a player sticking his arm out to block the ball in the area in extra time. He's had plenty of time to work with what he's got, you're talking like tonight has been our only poor performance. It's nothing new a Manager inheriting someone else's squad, but NOTHING has improved If anything we've got worse, he had a decent side available tonight but still got nothing out of them (again) Tactically we're just as bad now as we have been all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: If he was not playing (as you admit he shouldn’t be), then the judgement of him is irrelevant. The fact that he has not netted for 10+ games compounds this and hard to argue for an OOC non-committed, non-scoring striker my friend. I'm not your friend. This doesn't even make any sort of sense. If he is not playing, you can't judge him. He was playing. And your judgement is tainted in my opinion. And if you are judging him on goals alone, then your judgement is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Superjack said: I'm not your friend. This doesn't even make any sort of sense. If he is not playing, you can't judge him. He was playing. And your judgement is tainted in my opinion. And if you are judging him on goals alone, then your judgement is irrelevant. Ok (not my friend). I am judging him as a centre-forward. His hold up play is not good enough. His ability in the air is not good enough. He has not scored since Feb 23rd. He was not one of our best players tonight. That’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedred31 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, TomThumb84 said: Ok (not my friend). I am judging him as a centre-forward. His hold up play is not good enough. His ability in the air is not good enough. He has not scored since Feb 23rd. He was not one of our best players tonight. That’s it. You can be my friend, if that’s any consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Bedred31 said: You can be my friend, if that’s any consolation. All friends here I thought. Thanks mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: Ok (not my friend). I am judging him as a centre-forward. His hold up play is not good enough. His ability in the air is not good enough. He has not scored since Feb 23rd. He was not one of our best players tonight. That’s it. Well that's bollocks for a start. His ability in the air is clearly better than our entire defence and goalkeeper. Especially in our own box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Superjack said: Well that's bollocks for a start. His ability in the air is clearly better than our entire defence and goalkeeper. Especially in our own box. Odd agenda you have here. Not sure what you are trying to achieve or prove, the guy has practically left our club. He plays (shouldn’t as we both agree) as a CENTRE-FORWARD. This odd rhetoric that he is brilliant because he can defend corners is bizarre. And he is not better in the air than Dan Bentley who admittedly has the advantage of being able to use his hands. Enough of this now. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, TomThumb84 said: Odd agenda you have here. Not sure what you are trying to achieve or prove, the guy has practically left our club. He plays (shouldn’t as we both agree) as a CENTRE-FORWARD. This odd rhetoric that he is brilliant because he can defend corners is bizarre. And he is not better in the air than Dan Bentley who admittedly has the advantage of being able to use his hands. Enough of this now. All the best. Dan Bentley is ****ing awful in the air and basically sh*ts himself every time a high cross comes in. But yes, enough of this. I would rather debate with people that have some semblance of a clue. Have a good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Totally agree, but we are tied in to their contracts, we would have to pay them off. We can scarcely afford to pay a transfer fee, much less spend millions paying off some of the shite we are stuck with. Good old Lee signing these belters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, harvey54 said: How can you motivate players who know that they won't be here in 6 weeks? They've got nothing to play for. They're empty husks of players Because they are supposed to be professionals and they are very well paid. There is no excuse in or out of contract. The fact many seem to have downed tools tells you all you need to know about the useless recruiting that has gone on under Mark Ashton's watch. Thank the lord he is off. I expected very little from the rump end of the season other than to keep us in this division and then have the major clear out in the summer. NP's primary concern now is to learn every scrap he can about every player. For that he needs to play them. It's facile for people to criticise him based upon the circumstances he finds the club. I don't have huge confidence in SL appointing him on a long term contract but 100% he should and he should have done it weeks ago frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Good old Lee signing these belters Alright mate.. Poor old Sunderland will have to endure a few of these belters when they fu** up the play offs and sign for them in the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Good old Lee signing these belters Yep, and when the club gets someone they can sell, they are sold as soon as they can to free up the money to sign that useless shower. Selling brownhill for 9 million and buying wells with the proceeds was a genius move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: Alright mate.. Poor old Sunderland will have to endure a few of these belters when they fu** up the play offs and sign for them in the summer... ipswich might take a few as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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