BobbyC Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Administration would now bring double pain.An automatic 12 point deduction followed by 15 points the following season. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/footballleague/article4461057.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Did you script that paragraph purposely as a paradox?Someone once told me to never ask a question to which you don't already know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Edited June 8, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Administration would now bring double pain.An automatic 12 point deduction followed by 15 points the following season.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/footballleague/article4461057.ece Or in reality - complete dissolution the following year, if the points deduction meant another drop to non-league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 So, what we're all reading & saying is that they are [using a rugby term] rucked well and truly, either way, no coming back, no pitching up at a local speedway track and poncing off the owners ever again goodnight. Still at least they can use the Watney cup as an urn to put the ashes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 So, what we're all reading & saying is that they are [using a rugby term] rucked well and truly, either way, no coming back, no pitching up at a local speedway track and poncing off the owners ever again goodnight. Still at least they can use the Watney cup as an urn to put the ashes in. I wouldn't say so. Win and who knows what the future may look like, lose and I think they would survive but an existence like Pompey whereby for the forseeable stability is all you could hope for. Trouble is football is too much like snakes and ladders. Easy to fall, difficult to climb. It's hard to really guess what may happen. But, if they lose their case and the stadium is the catalyst we all hope it would be, it's not difficult to imagine the rivalry descending in to a Stoke v Vale or Bradford v BPA rivalry. I don't fear for their future, but I do fear (for their sake) what the future may be. They aren't too big to prevent a 'Stockport'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) Edited June 8, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 And another day rolls on, Weds at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 And another day rolls on, Weds at the earliest. What's your gut feeling..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 What's your gut feeling..? There are rumblings that Nicholas may sell the Mem in order to pay back outstanding loans and bonds and that this will result in a sudden bowel movement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) What's your gut feeling..? I assume it's quite tightly balanced because judgment was reserved, but if we then get a strong judgment critical of the other party and making it all seem so simple it wouldn't be the first time. To be honest my guess is as good as anyone's. Stopping short of predicting the outcome, from the reports that fed through to both forums I did think it sounded like Sainsbury's had prepared a strong case, had plenty of ammo and as the judge admitted it was complex I would expect an appeal if they don't win at this stage. If I absolutely had to guess one way or another, I would predict Sainsbury's will be successful but there's absolutely nothing informed to that guess and I wouldn't argue with anyone who'd guess otherwise. Edited June 8, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 I assume it's quite tightly balanced because judgment was reserved, but if we then get a strong judgment critical of the other party and making it all seem so simple it wouldn't be the first time. To be honest my guess is as good as anyone's. Stopping short of predicting the outcome, from the reports that fed through to both forums I did think it sounded like Sainsbury's had prepared a strong case, had plenty of ammo and as the judge admitted it was complex I would expect an appeal if they don't win at this stage. If I absolutely had to guess one way or another, I would predict Sainsbury's will be successful but there's absolutely nothing informed to that guess and I wouldn't argue with anyone who'd guess otherwise. Assuming parties can afford to appeal. What would happen for example, if Rovers were to win and Sainsbury's wanted to appeal, would Rovers have to embark on another round of legal fees or would the appeal be against the judgement only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 There are rumblings that Nicholas may sell the Mem in order to pay back outstanding loans and bonds and that this will result in a sudden bowel movement. What if no one buys now? Prospective buyers might wait in the belief that in six months, or a year's time, that ground will be available at a fraction of it's current value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Assuming parties can afford to appeal. What would happen for example, if Rovers were to win and Sainsbury's wanted to appeal, would Rovers have to embark on another round of legal fees or would the appeal be against the judgement only? In reality it would drag them in for more. The appeal would be an appeal against the judgment on a point of law (or the interpretation of it) so if granted Rovers would want to show there was no error in interpretation. Predicting the next question and what if they can't afford it I imagine that's when a deal gets thrashed out. I suppose one thing I didn't mention is, in my opinion, you do not really want to be the appellant at the Court of Appeal. It isn't friendly and not a court Barristers typically enjoy appearing in front of. If your not on your A game you usually get handed your proverbial on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 In reality it would drag them in for more. The appeal would be an appeal against the judgment on a point of law (or the interpretation of it) so if granted Rovers would want to show there was no error in interpretation. Predicting the next question and what if they can't afford it I imagine that's when a deal gets thrashed out. I suppose one thing I didn't mention is, in my opinion, you do not really want to be the appellant at the Court of Appeal. It isn't friendly and not a court Barristers typically enjoy appearing in front of. If your not on your A game you usually get handed your proverbial on the way out. If an appeal is made on what a judge might consider frivolous grounds could an award of costs be made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 If an appeal is made on what a judge might consider frivolous grounds could an award of costs be made? Either side will need permission to launch an appeal and if that's withheld you can then appeal to the appellate court to petition them to hear the appeal (ie appeal for permission to appeal to the Court of Appeal). What this boils down to is protection against frivolous claims so there will need to be a point of law. Also you won't get leave to appeal unless you have a reasonable chance of success (albeit no guarantee of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 With all this under discussion, it seems to have escaped my notice about their season ticket sales situation and whether they are still not selling them, if not, one has to question why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Not that I'm intending to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprocket Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Not that I'm intending to. You know that feeling deep down inside.WELL DONT GIVE IN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonR Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Basement bump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Still nothing on the court decision, not listed for tomorrow either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the mole Posted June 10, 2015 Report Share Posted June 10, 2015 Basement bump...we ain't doing that again are we!!! I swear half the posts on the nlbr thread were bumps!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The longer this takes the more likely sainsburys is going to win If the contract was watertight they would of won by now Good and bad faith has nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 The longer this takes the more likely sainsburys is going to win If the contract was watertight they would of won by now Good and bad faith has nothing to do with it I have to say Monk that your conclusion is, like RagAss soon will be, completely groundless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Nice to see the sags promotion push is in full swing signing a player from Woking.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Nice to see the sags promotion push is in full swing signing a player from Woking.. But is known from Dopey Daryl from his Salisbury days, real coup that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirColinOfMansfield Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 But is known from Dopey Daryl from his Salisbury days, real coup that He realises what a massive club he is joining ... "There were other offers on the table from both league clubs as well as conference sides but the opportunity to join Rovers was too big to turn down." http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/article/defender-clarke-signs-for-rovers-2489633.aspx They are in the football league ... don't you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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