Kid in the Riot Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, City Rocker said: I'm told that after "someone at the football club spoke to someone at the council" they were given the impression that because the proposed new structure is not as tall as the plans approved in 2008, the application process should be quick and straightforward. It seems they've now been assured that's not the case at all. The local councillor has requested that the application be referred to Development Committee rather than be determined by the officers. The club have belatedly engaged a planning consultant to gather the necessary additional documents for the application, but these are yet to be submitted. So it's all looking quite promising then. That's exactly right. They are honestly so shambolic. They'll get planning but this episode once again proves what a tinpot outfit they are. And some of their fans think the club will deliver an actual new stadium at the fruit market 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: That's exactly right. They are honestly so shambolic. They'll get planning but this episode once again proves what a tinpot outfit they are. And some of their fans think the club will deliver an actual new stadium at the fruit market One of their senior directors bought a basket of fruit at Sainsbury’s once (pre-boycott) and therefore assumed the process will be similar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrowe Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 It's a calamitous situation. Anyone involved in planning/construction/real estate (or anyone with basic common sense) is aware of the risks associated with the planning system in England, especially in a city like Bristol, where there is an informed and active community. At the end of the day, it's just a small stand. If they had followed professional advice, conducted a thorough public consultation, and submitted a well-prepared application in a timely manner, they would likely have obtained planning permission without any issues. However, their decision to start work without permission, along with their subpar application and insufficient time given to the Council to review it, has led to a self-inflicted mess. They've essentially caused this problem themselves. Undoubtedly they’ll start blaming the Council and everyone but themselves. However the fact of the matter is it all could’ve been avoided if they had done the job properly. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrowe Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 BBC is now reporting on the circus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-66342084 They’ve got themselves in real mess and it’s all for a little tiddler of a stand! 2 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I’m working on a site in south mead and got talking to someone working on the new stand at travis Perkins he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 20:31, red from the blue side said: Tinpot time again. A new lottery scheme to fund their academy. The "Pirates Pot" https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2023/july/pirates-pot/ Apparently less than 50 turned up to the launch of this, they were expecting nearer 150. Pretty obvious why if you scroll back half a dozen pages on this thread & no doubt in a few years they’ll be saying 300 turned up & more were locked out. Tinpot *****. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 The way things are going with there stand I can see Bristol with an underground system before that stand gets built and we all know that underground system ain’t gonna happen ( nothing happens in Bristol that needs the council backing and funds ) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pedrowe said: BBC is now reporting on the circus https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-66342084 They’ve got themselves in real mess and it’s all for a little tiddler of a stand! "The council has advised the club that no work should take place before permission is granted." And that's why it currently looks like landfill. Tinpot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 They’re just like you’re embarrassing little sibling. Good grief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, sticks 1969 said: I’m working on a site in south mead and got talking to someone working on the new stand at travis Perkins he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues Never got the chance to ask about the planning issues as you were doubled over with laughter about the groundwork’s bullshit , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 It may be an example of how not to develop a football ground but on a selfish note I am sure we are very grateful for the entertainment value it has given us through the summer. Like a film you don't want to end. from me. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Did they honestly think they could knock down a stand ( sorry take down a tent ) and just build a stand with no planning permission , safety certificate and all the other things that go with building a structure ffs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City Rocker Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gazred said: "The council has advised the club that no work should take place before permission is granted." And that's why it currently looks like landfill. Tinpot. And yet they are still going full speed ahead with the build, the pile holes have all been drilled. No regard for due process or for the local community, sadly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 Hhahaahahahahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert tann Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Open End Numb Legs said: On 2nd look at the steps, they appear to have struck coal during the foundations work. Could be the only rich seam of form they will find this year. You are quite correct. The plateau on which the Memorial Ground pitch sits was formed through infilling the existing land with waste material from the South Wales coal pits. Whether this provides a suitable base to carry the weight of a steel grandstand with 3500 people perched inside must be open to question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 So am I right in thinking, they won’t be allowed to accommodate or sell tickets for away fans? Is that even allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedontplayinblue Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, petehinton said: So am I right in thinking, they won’t be allowed to accommodate or sell tickets for away fans? Is that even allowed? They will be given the standing terrace on the side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 24 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said: he blamed the ground works for a lot of the problems and the big hold up. Never got the chance to ask about planning issues No, the big hold up is because not one of the dopey ***** that works at that club thought "I wonder if a stand with a capacity of over 3,000 people needs planning permission?" If you live in Bradley Stoke then the chances are you need planning permission for a conservatory. Yet not one ******** that works at a supposedly professional football club, thought an entire new stand might need permission. Tinpot. 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, bert tann said: You are quite correct. The plateau on which the Memorial Ground pitch sits was formed through infilling the existing land with waste material from the South Wales coal pits. Whether this provides a suitable base to carry the weight of a steel grandstand with 3500 people perched inside must be open to question. Thanks for the info, makes you wonder what that does for the groundwater. Must have taken a while for it all to compact. I have never been there but as soon as the old stand was removed it was clear it was on a perch over the nearby houses which made any height increase a factor in planning. I have said in this thread for a while they should develop the Mem but your inside info suggests there could be some expensive foundations required. The infill you mention makes the piling make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, chinapig said: I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all. Cue the coda to Layla ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, chinapig said: I'm sure that if Joey and his scouse posse pay a friendly visit to the planning office they would be able to "persuade" them to give permission. We wouldn't want anybody to have a nasty accident after all. BCC planing officer will be getting a visit from da management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterRedthanBlue Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 I see that one of the councillors has raised an issue with the contractors and work being carried out regardless despite no planning permission. It's the perfect thing to do antagonise the people you are trying to convince to grant you planning permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/files/67F19133207DD9BBEEABD28C4EA0205E/pdf/23_01441_F-COUNCILLOR_EMMA_EDWARDS-3503332.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, Wedontplayinblue said: They will be given the standing terrace on the side They have to offer a certain amount of seating to away fans. I believe they’ve yet to send Barnsley any info regarding tickets with the game just 2 weeks away. That club is the definition of tinpot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 From the BBC article: “Bristol Rovers is replacing its South Stand at the Memorial Stadium in North Bristol with new under cover seats.” So not really a stand then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 If any young Gasheads are asking for a BMX track for Xmas, they are quids in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 25 minutes ago, BetterRedthanBlue said: I see that one of the councillors has raised an issue with the contractors and work being carried out regardless despite no planning permission. It's the perfect thing to do antagonise the people you are trying to convince to grant you planning permission. 20 minutes ago, petehinton said: https://pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/files/67F19133207DD9BBEEABD28C4EA0205E/pdf/23_01441_F-COUNCILLOR_EMMA_EDWARDS-3503332.pdf Was that the document Pete? If so, it's been removed apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 28, 2023 Report Share Posted July 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Was that the document Pete? If so, it's been redacted apparently. Fixed that (seems to be the modern word for this sort of shenanigans ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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