Kid in the Riot Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Wow. Afraid to say it puts the HPC, which is of course shared by our first team and u-23s, into perspective. This is what Premier League money gives you, if you invest well. Palace have a catchment area that has produced a lot of incredible talent of late, so this will serve them very well in the future. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Can't watch it all as I'm at work and the mobile signal isn't great, and the video keeps buffering. From what I can see though, you're right it really does put our HPC to shame. This is the perfect example of why we need to get to the Premiership, even if we end up yo-yo-ing for a while. Don't get me wrong, we are heading in the right direction, and for a club our size we have brilliant facilities. Premier League money can give you so much more though if used correctly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Yep, on this… It does frustrates me that we keep pushing our HPC as some out-of-this-world training complex that premier league clubs would envy. Yes, it is bloody brilliant and a massive step forward for us as a club and I expect there are some premier league training grounds that might be a bit dated now. But you only have to look at this video and Brighton’s new training ground etc to realise that there are much bigger and much better training grounds at most clubs bigger than us. When the media team ask new players or staff what they think of the the HPC and how it compares with other training complexes, it does make me laugh. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said: Yep, on this… It does frustrates me that we keep pushing our HPC as some out-of-this-world training complex that premier league clubs would envy. Yes, it is bloody brilliant and a massive step forward for us as a club and I expect there are some premier league training grounds that might be a bit dated now. But you only have to look at this video and Brighton’s new training ground etc to realise that there are much bigger and much better training grounds at most clubs bigger than us. When the media team ask new players or staff what they think of the the HPC and how it compares with other training complexes, it does make me laugh. Yep, I feel the same. HPC is a huge step up for us but compared to what some other clubs have its basic. https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/training-grounds.872664/page-56#post-175801932 I am not complaining just being pragmatic. Edited October 29, 2021 by BS3_RED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 That first rooms reminds me of a London bar! Very smart though. You look at Leicester’s training complex, unbelievable facilities! Granted they’ve done exceptionally well in the past 10 years, but they were a League One side not so long ago. Anything can happen, we just have to get it right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said: Yep, on this… It does frustrates me that we keep pushing our HPC as some out-of-this-world training complex that premier league clubs would envy. Yes, it is bloody brilliant and a massive step forward for us as a club and I expect there are some premier league training grounds that might be a bit dated now. But you only have to look at this video and Brighton’s new training ground etc to realise that there are much bigger and much better training grounds at most clubs bigger than us. When the media team ask new players or staff what they think of the the HPC and how it compares with other training complexes, it does make me laugh. Agree - gets to the point where it’s slightly cringey. Fantastic that we have the facility and a massive improvement on what we had, but it’s nothing more than average when you see some of the others around. Just shows how difficult it is to keep up with the more moneyed clubs, got to run just to stand still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 And then you have ‘The Quarters’ which looks like a local rugby teams club house, and is much further away from our own HPC than our HPC is from the Prem facilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said: Yep, on this… It does frustrates me that we keep pushing our HPC as some out-of-this-world training complex that premier league clubs would envy. Yes, it is bloody brilliant and a massive step forward for us as a club and I expect there are some premier league training grounds that might be a bit dated now. But you only have to look at this video and Brighton’s new training ground etc to realise that there are much bigger and much better training grounds at most clubs bigger than us. When the media team ask new players or staff what they think of the the HPC and how it compares with other training complexes, it does make me laugh. It’s better than anything we’ve had though. Why can’t the club be proud of it. Not sure if any of our new signings are coming from Palace, Brighton or other premier league clubs with impressive training facilities. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 No point comparing our facilities with those of a Premier League club. Might as well compare wage bills. They are in an entirely different financial position to the rest of football and whilst it might be great for their academy kids to have these outstanding facilities, they will still need to go to the Mem on a Tuesday night to try and win a Pizza. Which I don't imagine this new botanical garden that has 9G under soil heating with a 4 speed infinity pool and crazy golf is going to help them with*. *Might not have paid full attention to the facilities on offer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy27 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Taz said: This is the perfect example of why we need to get to the Premiership To do that, we would have to transfer to the Scottish League system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, David Brent said: It’s better than anything we’ve had though. Why can’t the club be proud of it. Not sure if any of our new signings are coming from Palace, Brighton or other premier league clubs with impressive training facilities. essentially this. Atkinson signed from Oxford, his prior clubs (including loans) bar Fulham all likely to have worse training facilities than ours. Tanner joined from Carlisle. Admittedly before that he was at Manchester Utd, but whether their youth facilities and training ones are together I dont know. There's also an element of it saying to the players "we've just spent x million upgrading this, we want the money to have been put to good use and for it to help the club advance". I'm sure we won't be saying it to players in 5 years time Edited October 29, 2021 by JamesBCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 A bit of perspective, this is stunning! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, David Brent said: It’s better than anything we’ve had though. Why can’t the club be proud of it. Not sure if any of our new signings are coming from Palace, Brighton or other premier league clubs with impressive training facilities. No reason not to be proud but the constant reference to both stadium and training ground upgrades, to the point of overkill, comes off as small time to some. 6 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: Atkinson signed from Oxford, his prior clubs (including loans) bar Fulham all likely to have worse training facilities than ours. Tanner joined from Carlisle. Admittedly before that he was at Manchester Utd, but whether their youth facilities and training ones are together I dont know. Or alternatively, over half our team have played in the Premier League and at bigger clubs than us. Not that you'd know it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Aside from the dome which is a fantastic facility, and the 3g pitches, I don't see a great deal of difference in actual facilities to the HPC. The buildings look a bit meh as well. The Leicester facility is the aspiration imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Ours is better.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 59 minutes ago, Coxy27 said: This is the perfect example of why we need to get to the Premiership. To do that, we would have to transfer to the Scottish League system. @BS4 on Tour... would be very proud of you . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Im just glad we are seeing the results of the high performance centre with the high performance standards on the pitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 20 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: @BS4 on Tour... would be very proud of you . You have learned well young grasshopper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 It is a very nice facility. They have incorporated a lot of offices there and classrooms. Selhurst park is a very old stadium and I expect the office facilities there are tired. We have all of that at the refurbished Ashton Gate . It is a impressive centre though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostrich Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Pretty impressive as a site just for their academy, although strange that it will presumably be better than the first team training ground now and I think there’s advantages to being all on one site but just to get them ext to each other in London is decent enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: You have learned well young grasshopper. I’ve used that in work, and the young’uns haven’t got a clue what I’m on about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: It is a very nice facility. They have incorporated a lot of offices there and classrooms. Selhurst park is a very old stadium and I expect the office facilities there are tired. We have all of that at the refurbished Ashton Gate . It is a impressive centre though Correct, Selhurst Park is a creaking dump with less capacity than Ashton Gate. Swings and roundabouts, as they say. Much better "atmosphere" though ... even in the lower leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’ve used that in work, and the young’uns haven’t got a clue what I’m on about. I didn't get where I am today by knowing about young people and grasshoppers ... Cap doffed to C.J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 If we ever get access to Premier League money, I hope a significant portion of it is invested into infrastructure. Would be great to upgrade the academy to Category One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atyeo's Love Child Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 The HPC is fantastic (NP not keen on the name though), had the tour last night at the NP Q&A. Really cannot see what else we would need, apart from the indoor pitch & we can use the Bears one up the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 1 minute ago, The Original OTIB said: Correct, Selhurst Park is a creaking dump with less capacity than Ashton Gate. Swings and roundabouts, as they say. Much better "atmosphere" though ... even in the lower leagues. It's 2008, it's the Play-off semi-final. Two diverging paths lie ahead. One is signposted "You'll lose this game, your ground will remain a dump but soon you'll be in the Premier league for 9 consecutive seasons and get to the FA Cup final". The other "You'll win this game, your ground will get an amazing upgrade but soon you'll be back in the third Division and, er, that's about it". So "swings and roundabouts" is an almighty understatement - having a shiny new Ashton Gate is frankly no compensation when you look at what Crystal Palace have achieved in recent years where it really counts - on the field of play. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: It's 2008, it's the Play-off semi-final. Two diverging paths lie ahead. One is signposted "You'll lose this game, your ground will remain a dump but soon you'll be in the Premier league for 9 consecutive seasons and get to the FA Cup final". The other "You'll win this game, your ground will get an amazing upgrade but soon you'll be back in the third Division and, er, that's about it". So "swings and roundabouts" is an almighty understatement - having a shiny new Ashton Gate is frankly no compensation when you look at what Crystal Palace have achieved in recent years where it really counts - on the field of play. I was not commenting on anything other than one has an amazing Academey training facility the other a more funcitonal one. One has a nice (mostly) new ground, the other an older, dated and decaying one. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: It's 2008, it's the Play-off semi-final. Two diverging paths lie ahead. One is signposted "You'll lose this game, your ground will remain a dump but soon you'll be in the Premier league for 9 consecutive seasons and get to the FA Cup final". The other "You'll win this game, your ground will get an amazing upgrade but soon you'll be back in the third Division and, er, that's about it". So "swings and roundabouts" is an almighty understatement - having a shiny new Ashton Gate is frankly no compensation when you look at what Crystal Palace have achieved in recent years where it really counts - on the field of play. Scenario one - you develop the ground with all the money you make in the PL. think SL might’ve questioned whether h did it the wrong way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRed Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 The first minute of that Palace fly-through is just rooms with seating in them. Getting the young 'uns ready for a life on the bench? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 Better comparing our set up to our peers in the championship. Its still a very high end facility. You aren't getting those kind of facilities at Luton, Millwall, QPR etc You can have all the kit in the world but if the coaches aren't up to snuff then it's pointless. It's like me playing golf with amazing clubs, I still hit it into the pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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