cidered abroad Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 How many of the members of this forum can remember the debut of a seventeen year old, still skinny and very raw in football terms? I can't remember his name but he did have one or two tidy games for two City's. Well you could be seeing the beginnings of another one! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 He looked miles off it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Look, he could well be the next big thing by 2024 but with O’Dowda, Scott or even Simpson sat watching it was incredible he came on & despite some saying he wasn’t any worse than others that is simply ridiculous, he looked a mile away on that evidence. If you look at my post history I tend to be pretty supportive & have seen the likes of Scott, Conway & Sam Pearson come in as youngsters & do ok. Not to highlight that he struggled hugely would be dishonest. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Nige just made that comment on BBCRB Ha, I promise I hadn't heard it. Will feel smug when listen to the post 5pm part later tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I am not a COD fan but while Barnsley were pushed up to the halfway line we needed someone to run through with the ball. He seemed the obvious choice to me this time, just to stop them camping in our half. Even their keeper was almost in our half, it was nuts that they felt able to do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Was such a weird sub. I am usually for young players given a go, and he will be some player one day I'm sure. But why not Scott who is stronger, got experience, defended well in Cardiff and Peterborough games when coming on to play left midfield. What has Scott done wrong, he had a decent game against Forest. And I know people don't rate him but O'Dowda did well defending corners last season. Bringing on Benarous another tiny player and having brought on Dasilva too and bringing off Pring (injured) and Bakinson who are both competent in the air. No wonder we looked so vulnerable from set pieces with the players we had on the pitch. But more importantly O'Dowda would be better at getting us up the pitch, which we could not seem to do for much of the 2nd half. Pearson subs often make little sense to me. Palmer on against Forest when winning another. What like he did when he came on against Forest? O’Dowda for me is not the player you write about. One game maybe a season he’s good then it’s back to normal. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, The turtle said: Maybe just for a change, just wanted someone with energy on the pitch who hasn't been mentally scarred. Someone for the fans to get behind,someone for the senior players to rally around. A distraction from the nervous energy. Concede and its insanity Win and it worked; was it down to the sub? Prob not, but it's not like the standard option has worked for the last 18 thousand years A wise observation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Look, he could well be the next big thing by 2024 but with O’Dowda, Scott or even Simpson sat watching it was incredible he came on & despite some saying he wasn’t any worse than others that is simply ridiculous, he looked a mile away on that evidence. If you look at my post history I tend to be pretty supportive & have seen the likes of Scott, Conway & Sam Pearson come in as youngsters & do ok. Not to highlight that he struggled hugely would be dishonest. Pearson plays these players on merit. Fans are entitled to assess their performance on the same basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Speaks more volume about what he thinks about Bakinson’s performance and what he thinks about CO’D. Hell of a risk, and didn’t really pay off. Win is all that counts I suppose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dicks Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: How many of the members of this forum can remember the debut of a seventeen year old, still skinny and very raw in football terms? I can't remember his name but he did have one or two tidy games for two City's. Well you could be seeing the beginnings of another one! Tom Ritchie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: I am not a COD fan but while Barnsley were pushed up to the halfway line we needed someone to run through with the ball. He seemed the obvious choice to me this time, just to stop them camping in our half. Even their keeper was almost in our half, it was nuts that they felt able to do that. O’Dowda’s had chances to help us close out games and failed pretty miserably. No probs with NP trying something different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Several of our senior pros have shown themselves to be chancers stealing a wage for many games this year so I’m not going to give a lad on his debut too hard a time tbh. I’m 100% for giving kids a chance just now as I simply don’t want to see plenty of the well paid professionals who are performing like donkeys anywhere near the pitch. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 A very bold decision to bring him on…..would have gone for COD or Scott but now we’ve won, will have been a good experience for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Benarous has got a lot of talent and I didn’t see the harm in giving him a run-out from the bench today as it showed how far away he is from the first XI. Alternatively, he might be ready but was just overwhelmed by it all today. Either way, that’s another academy graduate making their first XI debut (that’s a positive) and I think he’s got a good chance of making it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 The irony is that if he'd stayed on the bench and we'd not won, someone was bound to have started a thread asking why he wasn't brought on. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, tin said: Benarous has got a lot of talent and I didn’t see the harm in giving him a run-out from the bench today as it showed how far away he is from the first XI. Alternatively, he might be ready but was just overwhelmed by it all today. Either way, that’s another academy graduate making their first XI debut (that’s a positive) and I think he’s got a good chance of making it. His comments to Nige was how quick it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 At least he was able to take the ball into the corner near the end, something some of his more experienced colleagues could have done against Forest but chose not to. If your looking for someone who gave the ball away cheaply what about Martin, twice in his own box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, Simon bristol said: Would rather see benarous or scott than palmer or odowda Honestly now - still think that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said: Tom Ritchie? No, Sir Gerry. In his first full season, plenty of City fans voiced very negative opinions about him. Tons of humble pie eaten I'm not saying Benarous will be as good. But experienced managers like Pearson do not throw 17 year old kids to the wolves. They know it will be tough but have confidence that the young one will not let anyone down easily. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullmoan Tone Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, Henry said: Pearson plays these players on merit. Fans are entitled to assess their performance on the same basis. Or he is trying to make a point (rather like Cottrill did, but slightly differently) about only having these available because he doesn't trust the more senior pro's? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 48 minutes ago, Prime said: You don't want to knock the kid, but you did anyway. Incredibly harsh. He hardly received the ball and the times he did he was tackled by his teammates (Martin in a counter attacking situation and Wells in the box). I wouldn't say he played any better or worse than anyone else. The one time he was in a position to take someone on, he was outmuscled, but arguably it was a foul. I also thought he was committed and helped out in defence. I really thought this would be a thread about how great it is to see another academy product make his debut. I really hope he doesn't read your post. I agree with you, glimpses of talent there and certainly has some pace, hope he gets more minutes very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I thought he did ok for a debut in difficult circumstances, put himself about and did one pass into the box that nearly came off, think people on here being a bit harsh. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I thought Martin should’ve come off too…needed Bell’s legs to chase stuff down. Lucky he was still on to clear off the line. I thought he had his best game for weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 I agree he struggled today. A surprising substitution and a massive gamble to bring him in in such a high pressure game. I would have thought that if NP doesn’t trust the likes of players like COD, then Scott would have been a more obvious choice seeing as he has impressed so far and we badly needed someone to hold onto the ball. Postives - it was good to see Benarous run at them with the ball (we don’t do that enough) and he took it into the corner to buy time when some of our other players seemed intent on giving them the ball. FWIW I think we missed Bakinson when he went off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, Dullmoan Tone said: Honestly now - still think that? Yes, palmer and cod coming on when we are trying to hold on to a lead is like playing with one less player. the only shame is that benarous and scott are similar style of very young player, potentially competing for 1 spot. If one of them was a centre back, or left back, they might get more of a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caseleyhas2chins Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, The Gasbuster said: Didn’t he run into a team mate of his, on a couple of occasions ? No Martin ran in to him when he would be in a good position to pass or shot 30 yards from goal when counter attacking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Bizarre substitution and you give him a debut when coasting a game not when under the cosh. He’s a play maker/dribbler but we never had any of the ball and all we can judge him on is his defensive ability which admittedly wasn’t great. He’s a massive talent & don’t let’s judge him on today as Pearson got his debut completely wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 O Dowda isn't a championship standard footballer, not surprised Pearson has overlooked him here. The kid was a fish out of water though, no where near ready imo. But that says a lot about our bench and squad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Without knowing too much about him admittedly, is wide right his natural position? If not seems strange playing out out of position, in front of an also relatively experienced Tanner. I don’t think today was the right game for him to come in to. However to throw a big positive out there I was delighted to see him do what several senior pros have failed to do this season from a winning position and manage the game. Booted the ball away a couple of times, and twice looked to run the ball into the corner (I maintain we would have won a couple of games already if we were better at this). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 other teams know scott,o dowda etc and how to mark them,bring on benarous and they have to be careful until they suss him out. good to see him come on,now knows he wont rot in the u23s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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