And Its Smith Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 First half moved ball well. Too soft at the back Responded well to unlucky first goal Not enough resilience, big frustration. Some players need to man up Third goal not easy to watch. No response from fresh legged players Concerned at lack of clean sheets and lack of shots Won’t comment on individuals when asked about Vyner On Saturday he will pick players who are fit and up for the game Lost control of game when Matty James went off As much about application as talent. Who is most reliable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Wouldn't disagree with much of that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_BCFC Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Same old dross from the horses mouth then, good analysis as usual but see no change. Edited November 2, 2021 by Ryan_BCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dREDful Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Let's hope he's finally seen enough of Vyner. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Pretty fair. On clean sheets. We've had 4 in the league during his tenure. 3 of them were last season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He sounded totally broken to me. Seems totally bereft. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ryan_BCFC said: Same old dross from the horses mouth then, good analysis as usual but see no change. Yes can't argue with what he says, but lets see some changes to back up those words, starting with picking no more than 2 from Wells, Martin & Weimann and giving someone like Benarous a start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 players he can trust... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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And Its Smith Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: He sounded totally broken to me. Seems totally bereft. Sounds like he doesn’t know what to do to improve it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, petehinton said: He sounded totally broken to me. Seems totally bereft. We don't know what he's saying day in day out. If he's feeling like he's been trying the same thing, the things that have worked for him in the past, for 9 months and people aren't getting it...and then get 4 brutal losses and one poor win in a short period, well yeh that's gonna break you. I'm not surprised if he's feeling pretty crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tin Posted November 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2021 The players who remain from LJ/MA’s watch outnumber Nige’s players and simply aren’t good enough. End of. 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ryan_BCFC said: Same old dross from the horses mouth then, good analysis as usual but see no change. Why do you never post when we win? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 He knows the squad he is working with is poor that's plain to see. He is forced to use what he has which as we can see is awful if I was him I would get out of dodge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, petehinton said: He sounded totally broken to me. Seems totally bereft. Bit ott. He sounds pissed right off & has every right to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, !james said: Talks a good game but rarely implements one. Bluster, no substance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, !james said: Nige thought the first half was ok. I would humbly suggest it was not. I think he must have been influenced by how bad the second half was. If he thinks the first half was ok, be very afraid folks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Bit ott. He sounds pissed right off & has every right to be. Agreed - will be interesting to see the starting 11 on Saturday - think we will see a number of changes! Personally, I’d like to see us back to a back four with Martin dropped and then Wiemann and Wells up front with Scott or dare I say, Palmer playing behind them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, !james said: 14 minutes ago, !james said: Bereft of ideas. I like Pearson but what an impossible job he has at the moment Edited November 2, 2021 by bris red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, dREDful said: Let's hope he's finally seen enough of Vyner. I thought i had. Just because hes academy doesnt mean he should get any favours. He played pub league in scotland a didnt tear it up so how on earth will he here. Typical of the nice, soft BCFC way to bring him back in like that. Will never be good enough ( like a few others too ). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keflav Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Stop sitting in the ******* stands and get on the touch line and instruct your players and get them playing... hiding in the stand like its not your fault is piss poor... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 We are in a poor run of form and slowly sliding down the table. It seems to me that there are a few players that Nige trusts and a few he doesn't. There will be plenty more of results and performances like this in this season. As I've said before anything approaching mid table will be a success after last season's debacle. We have to go back to a solid 4 4 2 and stick to it. Our problem with a small squad is that with injuries to key players like Baker, Williams, King and now James is going to hurt. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, tin said: The players who remain from LJ/MA’s watch outnumber Nige’s players and simply aren’t good enough. End of. Not as many as you think. Of the players he really relies on about half he made a decision on. James, King, Tanner, Atkinson, Baker and Weimann he gave contracts to. They have all featured heavily. Then you have Massengo, Kalas and Bentley who are stand outs to add to the 5-6 he relies on. So he has at least 8-9 players he can call on that he trusts. You can add Martin to that. So basically he chosen XI are players he has chosen or are easily selected. Then there are some younger squad players who won’t be holding him back financially like Bakinson, Pring and Scott. What I mean is they can contribute and not kill the wage bill. He has a bit of dross that is hard to get rod of. That said, he isn’t getting great performances from a large portion of players he has brought in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: Agreed - will be interesting to see the starting 11 on Saturday - think we will see a number of changes! Personally, I’d like to see us back to a back four with Martin dropped and then Wiemann and Wells up front with Scott or dare I say, Palmer playing behind them. No you won't, says this after every single game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, VT05763 said: No you won't, says this after every single game. Let’s see - expect 3 or 4 changes based on tonight……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said: Let’s see - expect 3 or 4 changes based on tonight……. Injuries don't count O.K. ? I reckon Baker for Vyner and Massengo for the injured James and a 0-4 drubbing that will be LJs fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S_C Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Sounds like he doesn’t know what to do to improve it Disagree, I think he sounds like someone who knows he cant {currently} improve it, if that's more or less worrying is probably open to interpretation. If he's in charge this time next year it will be fascinating to see how many of the current crop are still involved. For what it's worth, and I know plenty disagree, I actually think there's decent ability in the squad. The problem is, for me, that we've bred a real culture of complacency, we've accepted mediocrity and a malaise has set in. He's been employed to change that. Whether or not he'll be afforded the time by a fan base who, seemingly in significant amounts, say they understand this but don't is the defining question. Edited November 2, 2021 by S_C 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, keflav said: Stop sitting in the ******* stands and get on the touch line and instruct your players and get them playing... hiding in the stand like its not your fault is piss poor... I posted similar, weeks ago and got blasted on here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Can't be long before the senior players take him aside - IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keflav Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 minute ago, The Horse With No Name said: I posted similar, weeks ago and got blasted on here. Agree cant think of many if any other managers who do it (not at least in the championship) I just don't get it, we need a manager to lead at this time not to hid away... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Injuries don't count O.K. ? I reckon Baker for Vyner and Massengo for the injured James and a 0-4 drubbing that will be LJs fault The Johnson blame is starting to remind me of that scene from Fawlty Towers where Basil wakes up in hospital after knocking himself out by firing a fire extinguisher into his face and hitting his head on Manuel's frying pan and he goes on a big rant culminating in blaming everything on "Bloody [Harold] Wilson!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Just read NP said we are "Inconsistent" WTF !! The one thing we are, is consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Can't be long before the senior players take him aside - IMO. They're the ones who in the large aren't performing. If they try taking Nige aside I hope he ****ing outs the boot into them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fuber said: They're the ones who in the large aren't performing. If they try taking Nige aside I hope he ****ing outs the boot into them. In your opinion, which I respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Well if Nige knows he has lost James he knows we are in trouble . No king either . Just look at our squad . Our midfield choices are weak. Our squad is poor .This is why we have to give Nige time . Next summer we will see another 7/8 leave . this season could have been better with our few quality players fit at the same time . January we will have to add to the squad even if a loan to buy . we should not talk ourselves into a relegation battle either . Our team needs full support right now . Hope Holden doesn't read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Northern Red said: Why do you never post when we win? Because he would get bored waiting especially at home, look I know some people are moaners but don't you think he has a point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, dREDful said: Let's hope he's finally seen enough of Vyner. Why? I thought he played ok tonight. He came in and did a reasonable job in a different position (most, me included thought he’d play RCB3, but he played in the middle). He got done by Deeney for their second, admittedly. He tried to pass the ball out at the back, not always successfully, but it was a bit better than we’ve seen of late…for the first hour. Fine if you have a different view. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Why? I thought he played ok tonight. He came in and did a reasonable job in a different position (most, me included thought he’d play RCB3, but he played in the middle). He got done by Deeney for their second, admittedly. He tried to pass the ball out at the back, not always successfully, but it was a bit better than we’ve seen of late…for the first hour. Fine if you have a different view. Not just a criticism I have of him alone but from what I have observed he just doesn't seem up for a battle - I can't remember him ever putting in a memorable tackle, whenever I have seen him on the right he always seem to give way too much space to a crosser and his distribution is only slightly better than rest of our defence which still a long way off the required standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Pezo said: Not just a criticism I have of him alone but from what I have observed he just doesn't seem up for a battle - I can't remember him ever putting in a memorable tackle, whenever I have seen him on the right he always seem to give way too much space to a crosser and his distribution is only slightly better than rest of our defence which still a long way off the required standard. I remember one tackle in particular last night where he won the ball in our area and cleared it long. Once again, many supporters pick on one guy who has just got back into the first team, who is probably too anxious to make a good impression and slot into the side. I despair at times. The SUPPORTERS were great on Saturday and sang their hearts out last night. They deserve better results and will get them , eventually if everyone sticks together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Until he is allowed to bring in his own players we will struggle. Half of our first team squad are not good enough for championship football and we cannot expect to compete using players from our academy all the time, perhaps we need to bring in a quality head of recruitment who can beg borrow and steal players to join us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, VT05763 said: Can't be long before the senior players take him aside - IMO. Who are these “senior” players then? I can’t see anyone senior showing much in the way of leadership. If one does take Nige aside I hope he sparks the *** clean out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyredredrobin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) I thought NP was going to make a difference to this poorly performing team and he certainly has. No tactics, no motivation or commitment, no fight, no spirit and no clue as to what to do next. His substitutions have been leaving me scratching my head too. Not sure that a lot of the players want to play for him or are fully behind his tactics TBH. What is going on in training, because I can't see any sign that there has been any for the last 8 months. Looks like a man happy to have nabbed himself a 3 year contract and either trying to get himself sacked without committing gross misconduct or looking to rebuild from League One. I hate to imagine how much we are paying him to produce this dog shite week after week. I was happy to give him some time, but it looks like 8.5 months into the job he just hasn't got a clue. Edited November 3, 2021 by wendyredredrobin 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, wendyredredrobin said: I thought NP was going to make a difference to this poorly performing team and he certainly has. No tactics, no motivation or commitment, no fight, no spirit and no clue as to what to do next. His substitutions have been leaving me scratching my head too. Not sure that a lot of the players want to play for him or are fully behind his tactics TBH. What is going on in training, because I can't see any sign that there has been any for the last 8 months. Looks like a man happy to have nabbed himself a 3 year contract and either trying to get himself sacked without committing gross misconduct or looking to rebuild from League One. I hate to imagine how much we are paying him to produce this dog shite week after week. I was happy to give him some time, but it looks like 8.5 months into the job he just hasn't got a clue. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, westonred said: Until he is allowed to bring in his own players we will struggle. Half of our first team squad are not good enough for championship football and we cannot expect to compete using players from our academy all the time, perhaps we need to bring in a quality head of recruitment who can beg borrow and steal players to join us. We are limited based on time and money. But also does he deserve it? We actually played some good football the start of this season, prime example was Swansea at home. I left the Gate seeing clear improvements on last season, I don’t mind losing those games knowing other times we’d win them. I feel we’ve gone backwards since, performances are getting worse and I can’t personally see what NP is doing now. Basics like solidifying, making us hard to beat, building from defence out. Why are we not doing this? It feels more like panic tactics with 3 strikers on the pitch. Especially as we lack creative players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: Who are these “senior” players then? I can’t see anyone senior showing much in the way of leadership. If one does take Nige aside I hope he sparks the *** clean out. Who are they anyway? Martin and Wells who are starting every game? Weimann who he resigned over the summer? King, James, or Simpson? Hah. It's just a meaningless phrase people like to say a bit like "he's clearly lost the dressing room" or "X player obviously doesn't want to be here" imo. Imo the bigger issue is with the "middle" of the squad. 23 - 28 or so... Aka the core players we should have been developing for the last 4 or 5 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, IAmNick said: Who are they anyway? Martin and Wells who are starting every game? Weimann who he resigned over the summer? King, James, or Simpson? Hah. It's just a meaningless phrase people like to say a bit like "he's clearly lost the dressing room" or "X player obviously doesn't want to be here" imo. Imo the bigger issue is with the "middle" of the squad. 23 - 28 or so... Aka the core players we should have been developing for the last 4 or 5 years. Loosing the trust and respect of the players is not meaningless - IMO A meaningless phrase might include the words "bus" and "seats" for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, westonred said: Until he is allowed to bring in his own players we will struggle. Half of our first team squad are not good enough for championship football and we cannot expect to compete using players from our academy all the time, perhaps we need to bring in a quality head of recruitment who can beg borrow and steal players to join us. He could have signed a striker in the summer, but he chose not to. This is his squad. He inherited some players, he signed others. His squad. I’m so fed up with the ‘emperor’s new clothes’ refusal to acknowledge what is right in front of our noses. He is not delivering as our manager, and the way we are performing under him is unacceptable. Nothing to do with Ashton, Johnson, Holden or anyone else. This is about Pearson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: He could have signed a striker in the summer, but he chose not to. This is his squad. He inherited some players, he signed others. His squad. I’m so fed up with the ‘emperor’s new clothes’ refusal to acknowledge what is right in front of our noses. He is not delivering as our manager, and the way we are performing under him is unacceptable. Nothing to do with Ashton, Johnson, Holden or anyone else. This is about Pearson. Well it isn't his squad is it ! How many players was he responsible for bringing in ? 5 isn't it, so you cannot really blame NP until they are all his players and i would give him at leat another 2 transfer windows to get rid of the players who are letting us down and bring in new blood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 hours ago, petehinton said: He sounded totally broken to me. Seems totally bereft. Yep,,,thought the same. He's been through a lot,covid twice - realisation of the scale of mess he's stepped in left by Lansdown & Ashton's profligacy. I feel for the bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: He could have signed a striker in the summer, but he chose not to. This is his squad. He inherited some players, he signed others. His squad. I’m so fed up with the ‘emperor’s new clothes’ refusal to acknowledge what is right in front of our noses. He is not delivering as our manager, and the way we are performing under him is unacceptable. Nothing to do with Ashton, Johnson, Holden or anyone else. This is about Pearson. Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dREDful Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Davefevs said: Why? I thought he played ok tonight. He came in and did a reasonable job in a different position (most, me included thought he’d play RCB3, but he played in the middle). He got done by Deeney for their second, admittedly. He tried to pass the ball out at the back, not always successfully, but it was a bit better than we’ve seen of late…for the first hour. Fine if you have a different view. I thought he put up no fight for the first, allowing Deeney to easily play the ball out to the eventual goalscorer. The third he was nowhere near the goalscorer, he was beaten on a number of crosses, two of which should have been put away. If he wasn't an academy player he'd be regarded the same as Taylor Moore. If we continue to play imo at best L1 players we'll find ourselves there. He costs you goals at this level, and it's often in the build up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, westonred said: Well it isn't his squad is it ! How many players was he responsible for bringing in ? 5 isn't it, so you cannot really blame NP until they are all his players and i would give him at leat another 2 transfer windows to get rid of the players who are letting us down and bring in new blood Sorry mate, but every manager inherits players, no one immediately sacks the entire squad and gets a new one. He’s had one transfer window and he signed James, King, Simpson, Tanner, Baker and Weimann, and at the same time he got rid of eleven players. That’s a fairly significant reshaping, and in any case you can only work with the squad you’ve got. I was worried by what I saw last season but didn’t blame Pearson because he really was working with a squad that he didn’t choose, but that was then and this season was meant to be all about progress. Well I’m not seeing anyway. The point is that he’s not using his squad well; he’s not motivating them; and he’s not getting the best out of them. His win percentage is less than 25%, lower than O’Driscoll, and similar to Lennartsson, Hodgson and Houghton, all of whom saw us relegated. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Sorry mate, but every manager inherits players, no one immediately sacks the entire squad and gets a new one. He’s had one transfer window and he signed James, King, Simpson, Tanner, Baker and Weimann, and at the same time he got rid of eleven players. That’s a fairly significant reshaping, and in any case you can only work with the squad you’ve got. I was worried by what I saw last season but didn’t blame Pearson because he really was working with a squad that he didn’t choose, but that was then and this season was meant to be all about progress. Well I’m not seeing anyway. The point is that he’s not using his squad well; he’s not motivating them; and he’s not getting the best out of them. His win percentage is less than 25%, lower than O’Driscoll, and similar to Lennartsson, Hodgson and Houghton, all of whom saw us relegated. I think you're mixing two things here. Is he getting enough from the squad? Currently no, I completely agree. We look rudderless and severely lacking in confidence. While our position in the table is about what I expected our performances and recent trajectory aren't. It's been very poor lately and I've been disappointed by Pearson. Is it his squad? Also no for me. I don't think he'd have chosen to ditch those players, he basically had no choice. Half of our regular first team for the last few years left in one window. The signings were his of course. But it's still two kids who have barely featured above L2 before, and some old heads he knew. I'd be interested how you think we could have got a reasonable striker in? We need to give him time I think. I said Christmas and I'd judge him when the season started and that's still where I am. Edited November 3, 2021 by IAmNick 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 This seasons target is to simply stay up. Pearson needs Jan22, Summer 22 and Jan23 transfer windows. Then we can judge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ostrich Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) Remember plenty of similar Nige interviews to begin with second time. I think one of the issues with him is that he doesn’t seem to be very good at getting something out of players that don’t match up closely with his ideals. If he isn’t having you then he isn’t having you and it doesn’t work, whereas some manager can be a bit more pragmatic and still get a tune out of players they want out on their arse in an ideal world. The whole thing relies on culture and if it’s not right it’s a struggle for him. He was fortunate at Leicester in that first time around relegation gave him chance to create a squad in that image and second time around he had money Edited November 3, 2021 by Ostrich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 hours ago, And Its Smith said: First half moved ball well. Too soft at the back Responded well to unlucky first goal Not enough resilience, big frustration. Some players need to man up Third goal not easy to watch. No response from fresh legged players Concerned at lack of clean sheets and lack of shots Won’t comment on individuals when asked about Vyner On Saturday he will pick players who are fit and up for the game Lost control of game when Matty James went off As much about application as talent. Who is most reliable Shame he didn't take a little of the blame for failing to motivate the squad. Feels distinctly like me and them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutton Caveman Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, westonred said: Well it isn't his squad is it ! How many players was he responsible for bringing in ? 5 isn't it, so you cannot really blame NP until they are all his players and i would give him at leat another 2 transfer windows to get rid of the players who are letting us down and bring in new blood Based on what he brought in during the last window, I wouldn't be backing his judgement with £££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcredandwhite Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well he can TALK a good game that’s for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Loosing the trust and respect of the players is not meaningless - IMO A meaningless phrase might include the words "bus" and "seats" for example. So which of the senior players you mentioned do you think he's lost the trust and respect of? And why? Edited November 3, 2021 by IAmNick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, IAmNick said: So which of the senior players you mentioned do you think he's lost the trust and respect of? And why? Good luck with getting an answer to that. Still waiting for them to elaborate on what Kalas's opinion of him is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: He could have signed a striker in the summer, but he chose not to. This is his squad. He inherited some players, he signed others. His squad. I’m so fed up with the ‘emperor’s new clothes’ refusal to acknowledge what is right in front of our noses. He is not delivering as our manager, and the way we are performing under him is unacceptable. Nothing to do with Ashton, Johnson, Holden or anyone else. This is about Pearson. 1 hour ago, VT05763 said: Precisely. It is his squad. But it’s not a squad he’d have chosen given the constraints imposed is it? That’s a Big difference. In an ideal world he might’ve kept one or two that were OOC, he’d have moved on two or three that are in contract to either retain those he let go….or generate funds for other players. The recent trend of performances isn’t great, but you have to see if that trend reverts to better performances like earlier this season. For 55-60 minutes we played fine with a bit of a lack of quality when it truly mattered. But we did create good situations last night in that hour. I’d say we were the better team, not by much, but were. What is indisputable is the financial mess we are in. And that is stifling squad building. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, IAmNick said: So which of the senior players you mentioned do you think he's lost the trust and respect of? And why? It’s the usual stuff that comes out. We had this last week, when VT said players has been thrown under the bus, then had to re-state, not everyone gets on with Nige. Massive difference. And pretty usual in the workplace, and even more so in football squads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: Why? I thought he played ok tonight. He came in and did a reasonable job in a different position (most, me included thought he’d play RCB3, but he played in the middle). He got done by Deeney for their second, admittedly. He tried to pass the ball out at the back, not always successfully, but it was a bit better than we’ve seen of late…for the first hour. Fine if you have a different view. My view too but I’d bet my house he’ll be left out at Coventry based on his comments afterwards. Expect him & Wells to be dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Based on what he brought in during the last window, I wouldn't be backing his judgement with £££ I’d back his spending of £££s (Tanner and Atkinson), is the freebies that people might question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s the usual stuff that comes out. We had this last week, when VT said players has been thrown under the bus, then had to re-state, not everyone gets on with Nige. Massive difference. And pretty usual in the workplace, and even more so in football squads. Will be interesting to see how this pans out in the next couple of weeks. I thought I said he "throws players under the bus" meaning plural ? Did it again last night with the "soft" comment, implying not his problem, nothing he can do. Of course he never names anyone, and yep not everyone in a workplace gets on. Edited November 3, 2021 by VT05763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It is his squad. But it’s not a squad he’d have chosen given the constraints imposed is it? That’s a Big difference. In an ideal world he might’ve kept one or two that were OOC, he’d have moved on two or three that are in contract to either retain those he let go….or generate funds for other players. The recent trend of performances isn’t great, but you have to see if that trend reverts to better performances like earlier this season. For 55-60 minutes we played fine with a bit of a lack of quality when it truly mattered. But we did create good situations last night in that hour. I’d say we were the better team, not by much, but were. What is indisputable is the financial mess we are in. And that is stifling squad building. This squad of players is far better that the mess we are currently seeing. Put all the other problems aside for a moment, the managers job is to get the best out of his team (goes for a regular workplace also) it is blindingly obvious that the current manager/coaching set up is failing in this basic requirement. Many, many managers have gone into similar situations and succeeded or at the very least not made it worse. Too much of a blame culture going on - IMO. But of course I could be totally wrong and it is all the players fault. Interesting times ahead for sure. Edited November 3, 2021 by VT05763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lucan said: That's the same in almost every managerial appointment though. It's rare you get to go in and clean the decks. Part of the job is working with what you have. Absolutely. But it’s also indicative of the players he inherited either not being anywhere near good enough ability-wise, or being past their best. The fact that a RB who was playing L2 football less than three months ago and a CB who was in L1 last season are two of our better, more consistent players shows the shite left behind. By the shite left behind I mean Vyner, Bakinson, COD, Palmer, Semenyo and increasingly Dasilva. Martin, Weimann, Wells, Bentley and Kalas could all be contributing much more than they are. Baker’s done OK but is injured again, leaving Massengo as the only exception of those signed under the previous regime — and let’s not forget Holden wanted to bomb him out in exchange for Birmingham’s Pedersen last January. King and Simpson on one-year deals I have no issue with; both are PL winners who should be able to pass on valuable experience. But their best days are behind them. James is a good signing, look at the way we crumbled last night after he went off for evidence of that. What’s left is largely academy graduates who are learning on the job at this level and with no money to spend, I struggle to see what anyone could do with this squad. All my opinion, both now and last summer. Edited November 3, 2021 by tin How could I forget COD! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 It is the Headline on the main BCFC website that gets me. "Pearson frustrated by inconsistency" We have been nothing, if not consistently awful for most of the season. Please try to Find a New mantra Nige?........As Inconsistent we most decidedly ARE NOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 21 minutes ago, VT05763 said: This squad of players is far better that the mess we are currently seeing. Put all the other problems aside for a moment, the managers job is to get the best out of his team (goes for a regular workplace also) it is blindingly obvious that the current manager/coaching set up is failing in this basic requirement. Many, many managers have gone into similar situations and succeeded or at the very least not made it worse. Too much of a blame culture going on - IMO. But of course I could be totally wrong and it is all the players fault. Interesting times ahead for sure. I’d love to hear Nige’s comments on system and use of certain players, e.g. Martin. I see problems, or at least things that I perceive to be problems and wonder what “they” see. I don’t think anyone is saying it’s all the players fault, or Nige isn’t culpable btw. He needs to find solutions, whatever they may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’d love to hear Nige’s comments on system and use of certain players, e.g. Martin. I see problems, or at least things that I perceive to be problems and wonder what “they” see. I don’t think anyone is saying it’s all the players fault, or Nige isn’t culpable btw. He needs to find solutions, whatever they may be. Yes it is strange and bordering on self inflicted stubbornness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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