Super Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Gerrard is an interesting one. I think for his likely intended career trajectory (Rangers -> *Prem Team* -> Liverpool) it makes sense, but to be seen as having done a "good job" there, I wonder whether he'll have expectations on him of making Villa into a Leicester/West Ham. It's an interesting challenge in that respect, but Rodgers and Moyes are vastly more experienced and are probably both in their managerial prime. I'll watch how he gets on with interest, I think this is a bit of a risk though. It's certainly a risk for him if he wants the Liverpool job after Klopp. If it goes pear shaped at Villa there won't be a chance he'll get it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS3_RED Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Stevie G confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Exactly that. Villa a stepping stone to the Liverpool job. Fair play to Lansdown for at least approaching Gerrard's representatives last summer, what an appointment that would've been. I think he'll do a good job at Villa. Would've been really exciting, and he'd have had no choice but to back him financially which would've been interesting. Was it a flat no from Gerrard's team then? I assume so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59238635 Aston Villa have appointed Steven Gerrard as manager on a three-and-a-half year deal, ending his three-year reign at Rangers. The former Liverpool captain, 41, leaves the Scottish champions having guided them to a first league title in 10 years last season. Gerrard replaces Dean Smith, who was sacked on Sunday after a run of five successive defeats. Villa are 16th in the Premier League, two points above the relegation zone. "Aston Villa is a club with a rich history and tradition in English football and I am immensely proud to become its new head coach," said Gerrard. "In my conversations with Nassef [Sawiris], Wes [Edens] and the rest of the board, it was apparent how ambitious their plans are for the club and I am looking forward to helping them achieve their aims." Gerrard took his first steps in senior management with Scottish Premiership side Rangers in 2018, and leaves with them four points clear of rivals Celtic at the top of the table. He played 710 times for Liverpool, winning nine trophies, and spent a season at MLS side LA Galaxy in 2015 before retiring as a player the following year. He coached at Liverpool's youth academy before managing the under-18 team during the 2017-18 season. Gerrard is England's fourth-most capped player with 114 international appearances, in which he scored 21 goals. Much bigger challenge to keep them up than what he did with Glasgow Rangers Edited November 11, 2021 by CyderInACan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: I think he'll do a good job at Villa. Or not as the very expensive case may be. It’s one thing to achieve success in a two horse race in Scotland yet another to be up against the many top coaches in the Prem with a squad of players who are not world class. The thought of having SG here instead of NP, whilst giving us a high profile appointment , seemed too risky to me. ( not like appointing a safe pair of experienced hands who we could count on. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Half of Glasgow will want to lynch him the other half will ensure he never has to buy a pint in the city ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: The thought of having SG here instead of NP, whilst giving us a high profile appointment , seemed too risky to me. ( not like appointing a safe pair of experienced hands who we could count on. ) Every managerial appointment is a gamble regardless of the guys CV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) Think it's a good calculated risk by Gerrard, Rangers were fantastic last season but don't look like equalling their points tally this season or how far they got in Europe. Villa are underachieving in the prem too despite losing Grealish. Premier league is the deep end compared to the SPL but I believe he has picked a good club and will be hard seeing him get a better offer come along anytime soon, especially if his Rangers record looks more average in future. Shame that Celtic and Rangers have become stepping stones for mid table prem clubs because they are both massive clubs but money talks. I wonder if Gerrard has enough experience to look any better than the likes of Ole, Lampard, Arteta etc (the good players, average managers club). If a clubs doesn't want to compete with their rivals financially for a couple of seasons then I see these type of appointments being made, will be interesting to see if Villa spend to take them to the next level or not. Edited November 11, 2021 by Baba Yaga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, BS3_RED said: Stevie G confirmed. Despite late interest from Bristol City Steven Gerard has opted to join Aston Villa. " I'm flattered by the interest shown by City, a tough decision but the lure of the PL just tipped it in Villa's favour" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Obviously done well with Rangers and seems to be on a decent career path with that move. Totally different test for him now though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstart Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Job for Lampard now then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Good for him. Done a fantastic job at Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted November 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 I wonder why he’s considered an upgrade on Dean Smith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Definitely a risk but a risk worth taking otherwise he is stuck in the Scottish Premiership waiting for the Liverpool job to become vacant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Damn, he might keep them up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Robbored said: Every managerial appointment is a gamble regardless of the guys CV. Not trying to be rude, but what's the point of that contribution? Is it just to get your post count up because it doesn't really add any value 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 48 minutes ago, Baba Yaga said: Think it's a good calculated risk by Gerrard, Rangers were fantastic last season but don't look like equalling their points tally this season or how far they got in Europe. Villa are underachieving in the prem too despite losing Grealish. Premier league is the deep end compared to the SPL but I believe he has picked a good club and will be hard seeing him get a better offer come along anytime soon, especially if his Rangers record looks more average in future. Shame that Celtic and Rangers have become stepping stones for mid table prem clubs because they are both massive clubs but money talks. I wonder if Gerrard has enough experience to look any better than the likes of Ole, Lampard, Arteta etc (the good players, average managers club). If a clubs doesn't want to compete with their rivals financially for a couple of seasons then I see these type of appointments being made, will be interesting to see if Villa spend to take them to the next level or not. Steven Gerrard has already achieved more as a manager than any of those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, 054123 said: I wonder why he’s considered an upgrade on Dean Smith? He isn’t in my view. Being built up as a future Liverpool Manager but based on what? At the moment, it would be a huge step down to go from Klopp to Gerrard Edited November 11, 2021 by Redpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 34 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Damn, he might keep them up It is interesting and he is obviously up for a challenge. Not playing Ross County et al every other week is a massive jump in competition. We will certainly see in short order how good a coach he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Henry said: Steven Gerrard has already achieved more as a manager than any of those 3. In a "Pub" league to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 47 minutes ago, Redstart said: Job for Lampard now then Oddly, Dean Smith would be a decent choice you would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, VT05763 said: In a "Pub" league to be fair. Lots of people were saying that about Brendan Rodgers' time at Celtic, and he is doing a very good job at Leicester. IMHO Gerrard has the whiff of a very good manager. Focused, demanding of his team and will get respect. I reckon he will do a good job 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: Lots of people were saying that about Brendan Rodgers' time at Celtic, and he is doing a very good job at Leicester. IMHO Gerrard has the whiff of a very good manager. Focused, demanding of his team and will get respect. I reckon he will do a good job Brendan Rodgers was already a proven Manager when he went there. You may well be right and it will certainly be interesting to see how he adapts to the difference in competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Redpool said: He isn’t in my view. Being built up as a future Liverpool Manager but based on what? At the moment, it would be a huge step down to go from Klopp to Gerrard Based on being a club legend and Klopp looking to step down in a couple of seasons. Provided he does well at Villa, the stars seem to be aligning there timeline wise. Liverpool are a very nostalgic club, often to their detriment, so it's exactly the sort of move they'd make provided he's not an absolute disaster at Villa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Lots of people were saying that about Brendan Rodgers' time at Celtic, and he is doing a very good job at Leicester. IMHO Gerrard has the whiff of a very good manager. Focused, demanding of his team and will get respect. I reckon he will do a good job I think Gerrard could do well but it is a gamble to replace Smith with him and see it as an upgrade. Rodgers was already an ex-Liverpool manager when he went to Celtic so Leicester were taking less of a gamble. Ultimately this will be the making or breaking of Gerrard. If he does well, he might well be destined to get the Liverpool job and his crack at the top. If results don't work out, he might well end up in a similar place to Lampard, getting linked to but not getting middling Premier League jobs... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Redpool said: He isn’t in my view. Being built up as a future Liverpool Manager but based on what? At the moment, it would be a huge step down to go from Klopp to Gerrard A step down, for sure. But that's because there isn't a step up! If you've got just about the best manager you can hope to get, where do you go from there? (Steve Lansdown told himself as he watched Lee Johnson lose 9 games in a row) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 Cue, Ryan Kent to Villa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Cue, Ryan Kent to Villa. Or that Morelos chap. Like the look of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Red Army 75 said: Good for him. Done a fantastic job at Rangers Gerrard will find it a 100 times more difficult in the PL - every game is a real tough encounter, unlike the SPL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 11, 2021 Report Share Posted November 11, 2021 26 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said: Cue, Ryan Kent to Villa. Was going to say, it will be interesting to see if he goes in for him, or anybody else in January. Personally I think he would be stupid to not go for the higher calibre players, but then does it depend on if he can sign others, or whether he wants to get tried and trusted players playing in his system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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