Foul Throw? - One for the Refs on Here

[Port Said Red]

Since Kalas has been taking his long throws I have been saying that nearly everyone has been a foul throw. This is because he often has one foot over the line as he throws, I noticed tonight that Stoke fans seemed to be complaining about it too.

But it is so often done right under the noses of the Assistant Referees, I am beginning to wonder if I misunderstand the rules.

Does anyone have any insight?

[Yellow&Blue&Red]

I'm pretty sure the Stoke fans were right the time they complained the most. His foot was well over.

[Lew-T]

The 2nd long throw over in the Dolman A block, Kalas had his foot virtually in the 18 yard box!

[And Its Smith]

8 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Since Kalas has been taking his long throws I have been saying that nearly everyone has been a foul throw. This is because he often has one foot over the line as he throws, I noticed tonight that Stoke fans seemed to be complaining about it too.

But it is so often done right under the noses of the Assistant Referees, I am beginning to wonder if I misunderstand the rules.

Does anyone have any insight?

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline

[Erithacus]

The Foul Throw - the most unpunished transgression in the game.

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, And Its Smith said:

At the moment of delivering the ball, the thrower must have part of each foot on the touchline or on the ground outside the touchline

He often has one foot at least 2 or 3 inches over the line before he lets go.

[AppyDAZE]

5 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

The 2nd long throw over in the Dolman A block, Kalas had his foot virtually in the 18 yard box!

I've told you a billion times, don't exaggerate.

[BcFcOneLove]

Or when players are grappling at corners, or at times could be described as wrestling. It's generally 50/50 but the defender or goal keeper always get the free kick if given. It's a very subjective grey area.

[BigAl&Toby]

35 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Since Kalas has been taking his long throws I have been saying that nearly everyone has been a foul throw. This is because he often has one foot over the line as he throws, I noticed tonight that Stoke fans seemed to be complaining about it too.

But it is so often done right under the noses of the Assistant Referees, I am beginning to wonder if I misunderstand the rules.

Does anyone have any insight?

Always used to be at least part of the foot on the line. Heel would be fine so if he’s got big feet he could have his toes in the penalty area! 

Best foul throw was that buffoon on Saturday. Christ alive. He seemed to just drop it off the top of his head…..

[elhombrecito]

Part of his foot is clearly on the line, so no problem at all.

[Port Said Red]

5 hours ago, elhombrecito said:

Part of his foot is clearly on the line, so no problem at all.

It's not every throw, but certainly more than half.

[redysteadygo]

Isn't it the linesman, I'm an old un so please excuse me, that monitors foot position of the thrower and the ref checks the ball is thrown from behind the head?

[Portland Bill]

I think it’s now a case of Lino’s and referees concentrating more on the on field players than the thrower when a throw in is taken.

Ive noticed a lot of players now lifting their back foot at throw ins, yes it’s a foul throw when this happens, but it seems in the greater scheme of things this is being seen as a trivial offence, when more important things are happening on the pitch.

 

[Mad Cyril]

This is where VAR can save the beautiful game. I pay a lot of money to see feet behind the line at throw ins. It's a massive advantage to have a throw with  a foot an inch or two over a line and it ruins the game for me when players get away with this.

As for the sleepless nights I get when the ball doesn't bi sect the quarter circle at corners....

Once, there was a kick off with an opposition player in the circle. STOP THE GAME.

[redsince1994]

1 minute ago, Mad Cyril said:

This is where VAR can save the beautiful game. I pay a lot of money to see feet behind the line at throw ins. It's a massive advantage to have a throw with  a foot an inch or two over a line and it ruins the game for me when players get away with this.

As for the sleepless nights I get when the ball doesn't bi sect the quarter circle at corners....

Once, there was a kick off with an opposition player in the circle. STOP THE GAME.

Don't even get me started on free kicks being taken in the right place.

I think VAR should take a good 5 minutes per free kick to work out the position to the nearest millimetre, especially when it is in our own half. 

[Super]

I know it helps us but the towel drying really gets on my nerves. Should be stopped.

[Roadrunner]

I thought the same at the time. But also when goalkeepers kick the ball from their hands sometimes their feet are outside the box, its never picked up. Then of course corner kicks, seen so many with the ball placed outside the D, hardy ever picked up. I must read the latest rule book so many things seem to have changed.

[archie andrews]

Dont tell em pike..... 

[Norn Iron]

26 minutes ago, Super said:

I know it helps us but the towel drying really gets on my nerves. Should be stopped.

Then there was the incident last night when Kalas went to the ballboy and had to wait whilst the towel was taken out of the plastic carrier bag! 

[Mad Cyril]

1 minute ago, Norn Iron said:

Then there was the incident last night when Kalas went to the ballboy and had to wait whilst the towel was taken out of the plastic carrier bag! 

" no, the red one please...."

[Super]

9 minutes ago, Norn Iron said:

Then there was the incident last night when Kalas went to the ballboy and had to wait whilst the towel was taken out of the plastic carrier bag! 

Just bizarre. The ref should be adding on at least 30 seconds every throw by the time it take Kalas to get over there then dry the ball.

[BS13 Robin]

1 hour ago, Super said:

Just bizarre. The ref should be adding on at least 30 seconds every throw by the time it take Kalas to get over there then dry the ball.

I thought the ref had a word with Kalas at one stage about how long it was taking

[Port Said Red]

2 hours ago, Mad Cyril said:

This is where VAR can save the beautiful game. I pay a lot of money to see feet behind the line at throw ins. It's a massive advantage to have a throw with  a foot an inch or two over a line and it ruins the game for me when players get away with this.

As for the sleepless nights I get when the ball doesn't bi sect the quarter circle at corners....

Once, there was a kick off with an opposition player in the circle. STOP THE GAME.

Yes, yes, very funny. I am worried about the idea that we might score one like last night only for it to be chalked off for for the infringement. Maybe I have seen too much cricket lately where no balls only seem to be called when a wicket is taken these days?

[Oizys]

1 hour ago, Roadrunner said:

I thought the same at the time. But also when goalkeepers kick the ball from their hands sometimes their feet are outside the box, its never picked up. Then of course corner kicks, seen so many with the ball placed outside the D, hardy ever picked up. I must read the latest rule book so many things seem to have changed.

So long as the keeper has released the ball in the area it doesn't matter where his feet are.  Corner kicks just need to have a fraction of overhang on the semi-circle and it's perfectly fine.  Whole of the ball over the whole of the line is the rule, whether it be throw ins, goals, corners, goal kicks etc.

[Loco Rojo]

12 hours ago, Erithacus said:

The Foul Throw - the most unpunished transgression in the game.

I'll raise you there. I think players diving, rolling around on the floor and feigning injury to influence the ref is a greater transgression that goes unpunished! 

[shelts]

As long as part of his boot is in contact with touch line he’s good to go !!

[Harry]

2 hours ago, Super said:

Just bizarre. The ref should be adding on at least 30 seconds every throw by the time it take Kalas to get over there then dry the ball.

I’m very sad. I counted. 
Kalas’ throw-ins last night were timed at :

30 seconds, 32 seconds, 40 seconds, 36 seconds, 29 seconds, 34 seconds. 
 

It’s a real pet-hate of mine. Not just ours, but football in general. The towel drying basically averages out a throw in to over 30 seconds. 
If you took that long to restart play without a towel, you’d be booked for time wasting. 
 

BAN THE TOWEL 

[marmite]

1 minute ago, Harry said:

I’m very sad. I counted. 
Kalas’ throw-ins last night were timed at :

30 seconds, 32 seconds, 40 seconds, 36 seconds, 29 seconds, 34 seconds. 
 

It’s a real pet-hate of mine. Not just ours, but football in general. The towel drying basically averages out a throw in to over 30 seconds. 
If you took that long to restart play without a towel, you’d be booked for time wasting. 
 

BAN THE TOWEL 

Maybe that explains the added 9 mins 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

I’m very sad. I counted. 
Kalas’ throw-ins last night were timed at :

30 seconds, 32 seconds, 40 seconds, 36 seconds, 29 seconds, 34 seconds. 
 

It’s a real pet-hate of mine. Not just ours, but football in general. The towel drying basically averages out a throw in to over 30 seconds. 
If you took that long to restart play without a towel, you’d be booked for time wasting. 
 

BAN THE TOWEL 

You’d be great on The Cube, even better on Steven Mulhern’s In For A Penny

[TBW]

Who cares as long as they aren't running on the pitch with it and overlapping the jobs of the rugby boys.

[Harry]

39 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

You’d be great on The Cube, even better on Steven Mulhern’s In For A Penny

Oh god Dave, don’t mention that Mulhern freak. I despise the maggot! 

Edited November 25, 2021 by Harry

[Erithacus]

10 hours ago, Loco Rojo said:

I'll raise you there. I think players diving, rolling around on the floor and feigning injury to influence the ref is a greater transgression that goes unpunished! 

Whilst it's always been part of the game, the modern professional era has evolved it as a whole sport in itself. I reckon there must be a Hogwart's School for Football Dark Arts.

10 hours ago, Loco Rojo said:

I'll raise you there. I think players diving, rolling around on the floor and feigning injury to influence the ref is a greater transgression that goes unpunished! 

Whilst it's always been part of the game, the modern professional era has evolved it as a whole sport in itself. I reckon there must be a Hogwart's School for Football Dark Arts.

Edited November 25, 2021 by Erithacus
Doubled up!

[BCFC_95]

12 hours ago, Super said:

Just bizarre. The ref should be adding on at least 30 seconds every throw by the time it take Kalas to get over there then dry the ball.

If we’re winning 1-0 and the time the throws are taking are going unnoticed then I’m happy, no issue in my opinion, the longer the better.

If I was an opposition player/fan losing 1-0 and the throws were taking that long however……….

[NcnsBcfc]

13 hours ago, Super said:

I know it helps us but the towel drying really gets on my nerves. Should be stopped.

To be honest, isn't that just a ploy to slow down the play/disrupt the game. He doesn't need to towel off the ball every throw. There was one time yesterday that Kalas towelled the ball, threw it in; and it got knocked straight out. Cue the 2 minute towel run all over again.

We have so little possession in games now that we are getting masters of the "dark arts".

Some real time wasting from the start of the second half yesterday onwards. I don't care though, it's all part of game management; and been done to us for years.