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Assuming Baker and Williams are out but hopefully James is back 

 

                                                       Bentley

                                          Vyner     Kalas     Atkinson

                           Scott                                                    COD

                                               James        HNM

                                                     Weimann

                                      Semenyo                  Conway

 

Hope we stick with 3-5-2 (3-4-1-2) as previous formation and tactics were dreadful.

Now please commence the shredding of my selection ?

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nickolas

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4132 for me 

                 Bentley

           Kalas Atkinson Pring

                James

semenyo scott cod

         Weimann 
 

only problem with mine is i have no rb or 2nd striker! ?

so i guess i have to shoehorn vyner to rb and stick conway up front, although clearly it would probably end up at Wells. 

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Odds on that Semenyo will start.

How far off is Tanner ? James should be ok ?

COD has done ok so far and gives an outlet to get further up the pitch. But Scott as a LWB isn't working imo. Not his fault, but he isn't comfortable there, play him as a wide forward or central. Same for Benarous.

If Tanner is fit (doubtful), then he plays, Vyner if not.

Massengo not in form, but rather him than Bakinson imo.

4-4-2 or 4-1-3-2 and could go 3-5-2 with Pring moving central and COD into RWB

.......................Bentley

Tanner Kalas Atkinson Pring

.....................Massengo

..........Scott James O'Dowda

............Weimann Semenyo

Needs to be freshened up and I think Tanner, James, Pring, and Semenyo will be unaffected by any negative stuff thats gone on before. TBF, COD is in reasonable form and Scott doesn't seem to be affected.

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Davefevs

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1 hour ago, And Its Smith said:

Would be surprised if he changes the formation after one defeat. Can’t judge change formation every time we lose 

Agree….much as I’d have preferred him not to swap to a back 3 at all….need to stick with it at the mo’.  Although if he went “f++k it, all this back three b0ll0x, I need to go back to what I know is best”, I’d be happier ?

57 minutes ago, weepywall said:

0-0 draw it is then.

Would take that now….and v Hull (a) the week after.

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This will be a real tough challenge if we are firing on all cylinders....we arent firing at all atm is the problem. NP has a lot to do by Saturday,  Derby have put on some good shows recently and have a good squad, despite there position.

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Davefevs

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39 minutes ago, gl2 said:

This will be a real tough challenge if we are firing on all cylinders....we arent firing at all atm is the problem. NP has a lot to do by Saturday,  Derby have put on some good shows recently and have a good squad, despite there position.

Could do with them getting stuffed, pick up some injuries and a red card or two tonight.  C’mon QPR.

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2 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:

.......... O Leary

Kalas.... Atkinson.... DaSilva

...........   Vyner

Scott Massengo O Dowda Pring

.......... Semenyo

......... Weimann... 

 

Because why not?? 

Seriously though reasoning 

Give Bents a rest to freshen up 

Kalas, Scott, Pring and Dasilva to 'burst' after soaking up pressure 

Massengo and O Dowda to be the engine room as will run all day providing outlets for over laps 

Weimann to hold up for mids or Semenyo to run through past with midfield or defenders overlapping providing width and maintaining cover should be countered. 

3-3-2-1-1 in Defence 

3-1-4-1-1 in Attack

May well get crucified but worth a shot. 

No tea lady then ?

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Rather have Martin than Semenyo - can’t believe people see him as salvation - bang average league one future beckons.

Same people who keep putting Wiemann in the team in the hopes Saturday is his one good game in 10. Must be due I guess? ?

 

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Better Red

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                        Bently

Vyner     Kalas     Atkinson.    Pring   
 

           Scott   HNM  Beneraus     Wieman.                                          COD 

                        Wellls 

 

Having watched tonight would go 5 in midfield with pace out wide and upfront.

Only Seyemyo could come into it.

Other than that not much to choose from.

No James,Williams, Baker and Tanner.

really does show  we are weak in midfield.

Taken Bakinson out as he was a disgrace at Sheffield U.

Bench will look very week for Derby. Seymenyo and Martyn and not much else to come on.

Maybe put HNM on Lawrence to nullify him. 

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18 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

Would be surprised if he changes the formation after one defeat. Can’t judge change formation every time we lose 

I would hope it may be more a case picking the formation that best suits the players available.   I am pretty agnostic about formations but I want to see the line up include players that will play on the front foot further up the field.   

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                             Bentley

Simpson           Kalas        Atkinson      Pring

                               James (If fit, Vyner if not)

                        HNM            Scott

Semenyo                                                   Cod

                                  Martin

I would go something like the above, have Semenyo and COD playing very narrow and getting close/in behind Martin. I like Weimann but not playing well, good impact sub to have if we need energy. Feel like Benarous could do with a break, moreso Mental than physical as can't be easy coming  into the team from nowhere. Gone Vyner in midfield if James can't play, desperately missing that shield in front of the defence and don't think any of our other midfielders (other than Williams) can do it.

In the unlikely event Williams is fit I would have him instead of Semenyo and push HNM out wide. Feel like that extra bit of awareness is missing from HNM when he plays in the middle, would want him in the team but right now maybe suited slightly wider!

Bench is everybody else who isn't injured or not on the bus so may not be a full one...

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If we give the likes of Lawrence time and space we will get stuffed. Actually thought Derby looked decent enough going forward but defensively they weren't great. I would play Semenyo and leave out one of Martin and Weimann.

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17 minutes ago, Super said:

If we give the likes of Lawrence time and space we will get stuffed. Actually thought Derby looked decent enough going forward but defensively they weren't great. I would play Semenyo and leave out one of Martin and Weimann.

Agreed, but if we need energy, you wouldn't leave out Andi Weimann.  However, Chris Martin has not been at all effective this season - I'm not saying that he's not trying, but he can't lead the line and when it comes to pace, well he doesn't have any - which is one of the main reasons that we are failing so badly.

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On 30/11/2021 at 14:41, Finley_Smith10 said:

Bentley

Vyner Kalas Atkinson Pring

Scott HNM James O‘Dowda

Weimann Wells

That team should be beating Derby 

We’re in desperate need of a winger and striker 

Not Wells.  He’s finished here.  Play one of our young forwards who has right temperament

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15 hours ago, Ivorguy said:

Not Wells.  He’s finished here.  Play one of our young forwards who has right temperament

I think Tommy Conway is fit to play.

I'd like to see him get some time on the pitch, he's got a lot to offer imo, looks a very bright prospect and appears to be an intelligent footballer. Works his socks off for the team as well.

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38 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I think Tommy Conway is fit to play.

I'd like to see him get some time on the pitch, he's got a lot to offer imo, looks a very bright prospect and appears to be an intelligent footballer. Works his socks off for the team as well.

I rate Tommy on limited viewing.  Looks like he has a mature game about him.  Just needs to keep progressing.

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On 29/11/2021 at 23:01, Better Red said:

                        Bently

Vyner     Kalas     Atkinson.    Pring   
 

           Scott   HNM  Beneraus     Wieman.                                          COD 

                        Wellls 

Is O'Dowda playing in one of the stands?

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Things we know ....

Tanner, King, James, Baker, Williams and Palmer won't play.
Bentley will play.
Martin will play
Kalas will play
Weimann will play
COD will play

NHM will probably play
Bakinson will probably play
Scott will probably play

So you have to ask, do we stick with 3 CBs ? It would mean playing all our fit CBs. Or do we go with a 4? 
Not a clue.

My guess. Vyner drops out and Atkinson comes in. Pring could come in at LB, switching to a 451/442/433 and as Simpson has been on the bench, he will be the RB

             Bentley
Simpson - Kalas - Atkinson - Pring
    Scott - Bakinson - HNM - COD
           Weimann - Martin

Probably not what I'd go with, but what I think Nige will do.
Now, what I would do ....

                  Bentley
Simpson - Kalsa- Atkinson - Pring
                    Vyner
       HNM     -     COD
                Scott
         Wells - Weimann

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3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Things we know ....

Tanner, King, James, Baker, Williams and Palmer won't play.
Bentley will play.
Martin will play
Kalas will play
Weimann will play
COD will play

NHM will probably play
Bakinson will probably play
Scott will probably play

So you have to ask, do we stick with 3 CBs ? It would mean playing all our fit CBs. Or do we go with a 4? 
Not a clue.

My guess. Vyner drops out and Atkinson comes in. Pring could come in at LB, switching to a 451/442/433 and as Simpson has been on the bench, he will be the RB

             Bentley
Simpson - Kalas - Atkinson - Pring
    Scott - Bakinson - HNM - COD
           Weimann - Martin

Probably not what I'd go with, but what I think Nige will do.
Now, what I would do ....

                  Bentley
Simpson - Kalsa- Atkinson - Pring
                    Vyner
       HNM     -     COD
                Scott
         Wells - Weimann

                                                Bentley

                                 Kalas     Atkinson     Pring

                     Scott                                               COD

                                                  Vyner

                                        HNM        Bakinson

                           Weimann                            Semenyo

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29 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Things we know ....

Tanner, King, James, Baker, Williams and Palmer won't play.
Bentley will play.
Martin will play
Kalas will play
Weimann will play
COD will play

NHM will probably play
Bakinson will probably play
Scott will probably play

So you have to ask, do we stick with 3 CBs ? It would mean playing all our fit CBs. Or do we go with a 4? 
Not a clue.

My guess. Vyner drops out and Atkinson comes in. Pring could come in at LB, switching to a 451/442/433 and as Simpson has been on the bench, he will be the RB

             Bentley
Simpson - Kalas - Atkinson - Pring
    Scott - Bakinson - HNM - COD
           Weimann - Martin

Probably not what I'd go with, but what I think Nige will do.
Now, what I would do ....

                  Bentley
Simpson - Kalsa- Atkinson - Pring
                    Vyner
       HNM     -     COD
                Scott
         Wells - Weimann

I think Semenyo starts on Saturday, whichever system we play.  Hopefully he avenges Derby (h) when he got red carded.

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28 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

Things we know ....

Tanner, King, James, Baker, Williams and Palmer won't play.
Bentley will play.
Martin will play
Kalas will play
Weimann will play
COD will play

NHM will probably play
Bakinson will probably play
Scott will probably play

So you have to ask, do we stick with 3 CBs ? It would mean playing all our fit CBs. Or do we go with a 4? 
Not a clue.

My guess. Vyner drops out and Atkinson comes in. Pring could come in at LB, switching to a 451/442/433 and as Simpson has been on the bench, he will be the RB

             Bentley
Simpson - Kalas - Atkinson - Pring
    Scott - Bakinson - HNM - COD
           Weimann - Martin

Probably not what I'd go with, but what I think Nige will do.
Now, what I would do ....

                  Bentley
Simpson - Kalsa- Atkinson - Pring
                    Vyner
       HNM     -     COD
                Scott
         Wells - Weimann

Could Nige not be tempted to play Vyner at right back and Pring at least back in a 4?

If Simpson were a legitimate contender we'd have seen more of him by now.

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7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think Semenyo starts on Saturday, whichever system we play.  Hopefully he avenges Derby (h) when he got red carded.

I can't see past Pearson starting Martin. I could see Semenyo in for Weimann, but doubt it. I still think it will be 30 minutes to go with Martin flagging.
I'd like to be wrong though.

9 minutes ago, mozo said:

Could Nige not be tempted to play Vyner at right back and Pring at least back in a 4?

If Simpson were a legitimate contender we'd have seen more of him by now.

After how that worked out earlier in the season I doubt it.

If Simpson wasn't viable why have him on the bench?

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Think we can deduce from NP’s press conference that neither James or King are likely to be available, plus Baker & Williams (the latter until January) aren’t, either.

If we are persisting with 3/5 at the back then Atkinson in for Baker & Semenyo for Benarous with Weimann dropping into midfield alongside HNM & Bakinson seem the most likely changes.

So;

Bentley

Scott Vyner Kalas Atkinson O’Dowda 

HNM Weimann Bakinson 

Semenyo Martin 

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6 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Think we can deduce from NP’s press conference that neither James or King are likely to be available, plus Baker & Williams (the latter until January) aren’t, either.

If we are persisting with 3/5 at the back then Atkinson in for Baker & Semenyo for Benarous with Weimann dropping into midfield alongside HNM & Bakinson seem the most likely changes.

So;

Bentley

Scott Vyner Kalas Atkinson O’Dowda 

HNM Weimann Bakinson 

Semenyo Martin 

Yep, I think you will be right.

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We are weak up front, weak in midfield. 
 

Can’t understand why Big Nige persisted with initially three, then two forwards when we can’t get any control of the play in midfield.

Hopefully, he is learning…although I would have thought a manager of his experience would have already known how best to solve the problem.

One up front..ideally, fast and mobile - so probably Wells, though could give Andi or, a higher risk admittedly, Semenyo  a go. Hopefully, we’ve been practising this approach in training so it doesn’t look totally like a new concept introduced to a bunch of strangers on match day. 

Five across the middle. Just perm any five players from what’s available. They’re all pretty much of a muchness. 

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37 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

James and King back in full training this morning, albeit no ready to be available for selection.  Suggests not far away.  King was back “on the grass” last week, whilst James did warm-up yesterday.

Only had a quick look, I was kind of hoping one might be ready for an hour Saturday. Not worth risking if they've only just started training though.

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On 02/12/2021 at 13:48, GrahamC said:

Think we can deduce from NP’s press conference that neither James or King are likely to be available, plus Baker & Williams (the latter until January) aren’t, either.

If we are persisting with 3/5 at the back then Atkinson in for Baker & Semenyo for Benarous with Weimann dropping into midfield alongside HNM & Bakinson seem the most likely changes.

So;

Bentley

Scott Vyner Kalas Atkinson O’Dowda 

HNM Weimann Bakinson 

Semenyo Martin 

Yep, this one..

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