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4 minutes ago, collier said:

Get off Massengo's back here, he under hit a pass 70 yards from goals. We had enough to cover man for man and he ran all the way back tracking the man. Those passes happen 10 times a game and nothing comes of it except when we do it.

I'll quite happily stand my ground here, I'd be interested to see the stats if someone can find them on how many passes he's given away this season that have resulted in breakway chances. Like I said, kids got tons of talent and I'm in no way saying he isn't good enough but he's really got some work to be done when it comes to some of his decision making when passing. The lad can hit passes some of us wouldn't see as possible which is what frustrates me so much when he makes silly mistakes that shouldn't be happening.

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Just now, Andrew_V1 said:

Can we just end the season now?

We really need to get some more mentally stronger players in the summer and we’ll be decent.

for all our promise it is no coincidence we keep making stupid errors so we need to cut those who can’t keep their heads over 90+mins

In fairness to HNM he otherwise had a good game, esp. 2nd half when Scott sat.

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6 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

We don’t deserve that yet it’s something that happens far to often. We just don’t have the quality to see out games at this level . I appreciate it was a slip, but it’s simply a lack of concentration once again 

It’s like Groundhog Day with this lot 

 

Spot on, unfortunately.

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Just now, old_eastender said:

Shame, Semenyo had a poor night consistently failing to control the ball.

Draw would have been a fair result, but undone by HNMs individual error. 

Scott excellent again, Williams looked class after he came on too - need to get him fully fit.

Hnm gave the ball away constantly was short on his passing throughout thought he was awful.

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2 minutes ago, Andrew_V1 said:

Can we just end the season now?

We really need to get some more mentally stronger players in the summer and we’ll be decent.

for all our promise it is no coincidence we keep making stupid errors so we need to cut those who can’t keep their heads over 90+mins

I don't think it's mentality. We are set up so crazy it's always going to leave space 

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Well I really enjoyed watching that. Pity about the result and the hideous inevitability of conceding late but what a great crop of players we have coming through. Very promising.

I console myself with the thought that we have stolen a few wins at Coventry in the past.

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10 minutes ago, Spike said:

Massengo drives me around the bend, he's honestly so talented but it's also not uncommon for him to do what he just did there and mis-direct a pass that leaves us vulnerable.  That said, another end of the game goal conceded after being the better team for arguably the whole game.

One of the most self distracting players I've come across, can be different gravy for 90 minutes and throw it all away in one reckless moment. Infuriating.

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1 minute ago, JonDolman said:

It was 3 on 2 after that. Massengo was at fault. Not that I'd have a go at him for it.

But I do worry more when Massengo has the ball in that position than I do Williams or Scott who are more composed.

I do think Williams shouldve just cleaned their player out and/or hnm shouldve tugged a shirt... 

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4 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

Some of these players are not up to it I'm afraid too many individual errors. We just roll over belly up it's pathetic, there are some very gifted players but it's costing us week in week out.

who then? I couldn't see many out there today. Perhaps with the exception of Martin (who still scored in fairness) there isn't a lad who played in that game I'd like to see leave the club.

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2 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

When will we get a decent ref?

If the chairman, Gould and co. will remain silent about all the damage done to the team, maybe never: doing nothing means happily accepting the nasty behaviour that most referees are showing in our matches.

 

That being said, defensive errors will be an aspect to consider during the next transfer window.

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6 minutes ago, Spike said:

I'll quite happily stand my ground here, I'd be interested to see the stats if someone can find them on how many passes he's given away this season that have resulted in breakway chances. Like I said, kids got tons of talent and I'm in no way saying he isn't good enough but he's really got some work to be done when it comes to some of his decision making when passing. The lad can hit passes some of us wouldn't see as possible which is what frustrates me so much when he makes silly mistakes that shouldn't be happening.

Sadly and IMO the evidence supports your observation Spike.

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What annoys me is the referees who are pedantic about somethings like where the spray goes and is oblivious to the kicking the ball away or throwing it around to prevent us taking quick free kicks.He's marking the spot for the free kick and the offender is almost on top of him!

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3 minutes ago, JonDolman said:

It was 3 on 2 after that. Massengo was at fault. Not that I'd have a go at him for it.

But I do worry more when Massengo has the ball in that position than I do Williams or Scott who are more composed.

Should have defended better after the mistake. All followed the ball, happens far too often. 

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1 hour ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Wow that was not good viewing! 

A lot of poor performances tonight. 

Massengo's passing has been way off, Bell looks to be struggling up against Maatsen, and Martin is running into positions he shouldn't be. 

A stern teamtalk from Nige incoming.

This game is crying out for Joe Williams. 

Yep you called it. Massengo caused a hernia issue for DaSilva with a crap pass in the seconds before he gave the ball to them with our team upfield. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, The Journalist said:

Another good performance from a team half made up of young’uns. Don’t mind it at all, don’t really care about the result.

Next few months remains a bit of a free hit in terms of fine tuning and getting experience into players.

While we’re still losing plenty, I think we’ve served up more entertainment in the past two/three months than the past two/three years put together.

Excellent post and sums up how i feel. We didn't deserve to lose tonight but half our team was made up of kids who look to have real talent.

I've been very 50/50 about our progress under Nige but i do see some positive signs and with a few decent signings in the summer i would hope we can improve next season.

Scott and Semenyo look proper players and i just hope we can hang on to them!

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6 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

Some of these players are not up to it I'm afraid too many individual errors. We just roll over belly up it's pathetic, there are some very gifted players but it's costing us week in week out.

Calm down and take a deep breath

Yes , always gutting to concede a late goal (Again) but have a look at the big Ure picture

If someone had told you 12-18 months we’d be pretty surviving without some breathing space in a side containing Scott, HNM , Benarous, Bell , we’re becoming regulars or semi regular 

That we’d need to find sufficient goals from Martin / Weimann and Antoine

Whilst missing expected key first team starters in James , Baker, Williams .... 

 

The performance is what should be painting the picture

Nigel Pearson is building something very decent here 

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7 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Who would of thought after the late Blackpool goal first game of the season it would happen so many more times. Certainly set the precedent 

Home to Blackpool - 2 points

Away to Forest Green Rovers - meaning a penalty shoot out which we lost 6-5

Home to Luton - 2 points

Away to QPR + 2 points

Home to Fulham + 1 point

Away at Peterborough + 2 points

Home to Forest - 3 points

Away to Coventry - 1 point

Home to Blackburn - 2 points

Away to Hull - 0 points (both teams scored beyond 75 minutes)

Home to QPR - 1 point

Home to Millwall +2 points

Away to Swansea - 2 points

Home to Coventry - 2 points
 

Coventry beat us away in the 93rd minute and tonight they won it in the 89th minute 

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1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said:

Calm down and take a deep breath

Yes , always gutting to concede a late goal (Again) but have a look at the big Ure picture

If someone had told you 12-18 months we’d be pretty surviving without some breathing space in a side containing Scott, HNM , Benarous, Bell , we’re becoming regulars or semi regular 

That we’d need to find sufficient goals from Martin / Weimann and Antoine

Whilst missing expected key first team starters in James , Baker, Williams .... 

 

The performance is what should be painting the picture

Nigel Pearson is building something very decent here 

Totally get what you are saying its just poor.

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We are infinitely more watchable and entertaining than at any time in the previous 2 years and if the young players that we have continue their trajectory then we are shaping something exciting and worth getting behind.

We need a couple of grizzly, street-smart types in with this lot.

Keep patience when they make mistakes, tolerate them when they try to do something different, and enjoy them cause there was a group of guys out there that clearly want to do their best for this football club, and that has not been the case for a while.

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2 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

I'm just pissed off with individual errors all the ******* time.

Young players will make the odd mistake and, hopefully, learn from them Banj, let's hope Han Noah learns tonight.

While we can see the emerging young side, we can live with it but I do understand your frustration.

1 minute ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Can we solve the late gol issue? If we can then we have a top 10 side here potentially to go into next season. If not then it’ll be a similar season to this! But this has been much better than last!

Didn't we just make a mistake while going for the win Alex? That's how I saw it.

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Just now, Alex_BCFC said:

Can we solve the late gol issue? If we can then we have a top 10 side here potentially to go into next season. If not then it’ll be a similar season to this! But this has been much better than last!

I don’t think we defended the winner at all well, surely they should have drifted across to pick up the only one who was free, but that to one side we were pushing very heavily for a late winner against a side good on the break. Easy in hindsight, but ‘take a draw’? Pays your money and takes your choice I guess.

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2 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

Totally get what you are saying its just poor.

It’s frustrating , very frustrating, especially when we’ve played well

But we were never threatening the top 8 this season , were far more likely to threaten the bottom three, we’ve had crap injuries again , reduced the wage bill significantly , got rid of some of the wasters and have 3 or 4 youngsters establishing themselves and looking the part at this level at a very young age 

We’ve got a few decent senior pros helping the squad and the side and performing , and we are playing some good football

 

Post game is not the easiest time to do it , but if we take a deep breath , personally I think we have the makings of a very decent side 

Get rid of the mistakes , and any bad luck this season , learn from the mistakes and the future is bright

 

COYR

 

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26 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

When will we get a decent ref?

I’m usually very quick to comment about some of the abject demonstrations on the art of refereeing that we’ve witnessed, but tonight’s ref was good. Got the key decisions correct, no blowing up for silly stuff and generally managed the game well. No complaints

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2 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Same old story. We lack leadership all over the pitch and just cannot organise ourselves at the back.

Totally disagree, just got caught on the counter pushing for the goal. Unfortunate but one of those things. Generally a tidy performance with all the team contributing.

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26 minutes ago, Spike said:

I'll quite happily stand my ground here, I'd be interested to see the stats if someone can find them on how many passes he's given away this season that have resulted in breakway chances. Like I said, kids got tons of talent and I'm in no way saying he isn't good enough but he's really got some work to be done when it comes to some of his decision making when passing. The lad can hit passes some of us wouldn't see as possible which is what frustrates me so much when he makes silly mistakes that shouldn't be happening.

88th minute of a match where he covered miles of the pitch. Pass was a million miles from goal in a central area with plenty of cover. He slightly under hit a pass to his team mate, he didn't put their player clean through on goal ffs. They all have work to be done in some regard. Semenyo couldn't trap a bag of cement tonight but his mistakes were made near their goal where it's easy forgive because it doesn't lead to a chance for them. I would be interested in the stats of all our players that have given away chances. We wouldn't be where we are as a team without collective mistakes so let's not try to highlight individual ones. 

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13 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

Can we solve the late gol issue? If we can then we have a top 10 side here potentially to go into next season. If not then it’ll be a similar season to this! But this has been much better than last!

What gets me is how little  Coventry had to do to get their goals. Not relentless  attack or pressure. Just a good pass and wait for the keystone cop error and it was that easy. And of course the fact you knew it would happen and roughly when.

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Concentrating for 90m+ in a league like the Championship is incredibly taxing. We've got so many kids out there it's not surprising they sometimes make mistakes, and that their concentration isn't always spot on.

It'll come, it's getting better. We're on a path now I don't feel we have been for at least 3 years.

I really enjoyed the game tonight overall.

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5 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Totally disagree, just got caught on the counter pushing for the goal. Unfortunate but one of those things. Generally a tidy performance with all the team contributing.

In the first half especially we were carved open from passes in between the centre backs and full backs? Coventry got in behind too easily and too often.

Much improved in the second half, but we were pretty lethargic for the first half, and lost momentum again towards the end. 

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