pl00peh91 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Sorry this is a bit of a rant, but how on Earth are we expected to make any level of progress when our forwards are routinely expected to score three goals for us to win the game? We have Kalas and Klose, two CBs who have both secured promotion out of the Championship before playing in a defence which is more porous than a house on a flood plane during Storm Eunice. We signed Danny Simpson for absolutely no reason whatsoever despite our financial difficulties and have chosen instead to rely on youth to fill the RB / RWB spot instead. We are five points worse off after 35 games than last season and in my view the only reason the defence is getting relatively easy ride from the fans in terms of criticism is because the bottom 3 are probably the worst we have seen in the Championship in living memory, and two out of the bottom four have suffered points deductions. This time last year Rotherham were 22nd with 32 points, for example. You are welcome to tell me I am being overly negative and I appreciate our young players have improved a lot, and that our future looks brighter than it did 12 months ago. But is it too much to ask to watch our team keep a clean sheet for once in a while, especially given the level of experience within the CB position? Kalas cost £8m and Dasilva cost a packet too I think - it really shouldn’t be as bad as it is. Anyway, rant over and enjoy your evening! 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Having Baker injured, Atkinson injured, Tanner injured, Dasilva not playing on his preferred side and a midfield without experienced players (both King and James out) partly justifies our defensive frailty. Tactics are also an element to consider, because a more attacking set-up can bring also more defensive exposure. That being said, some errors could have been avoided here and there, and I agree about Simpson. However, based on recent performances, I also think that we collected less points than we deserved (and refereeings didn't help). Edited February 26, 2022 by Dan Robin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Sorry this is a bit of a rant, but how on Earth are we expected to make any level of progress when our forwards are routinely expected to score three goals for us to win the game? We have Kalas and Klose, two CBs who have both secured promotion out of the Championship before playing in a defence which is more porous than a house on a flood plane during Storm Eunice. We signed Danny Simpson for absolutely no reason whatsoever despite our financial difficulties and have chosen instead to rely on youth to fill the RB / RWB spot instead. We are five points worse off after 35 games than last season and in my view the only reason the defence is getting relatively easy ride from the fans in terms of criticism is because the bottom 3 are probably the worst we have seen in the Championship in living memory, and two out of the bottom four have suffered points deductions. This time last year Rotherham were 22nd with 32 points, for example. You are welcome to tell me I am being overly negative and I appreciate our young players have improved a lot, and that our future looks brighter than it did 12 months ago. But is it too much to ask to watch our team keep a clean sheet for once in a while, especially given the level of experience within the CB position? Kalas cost £8m and Dasilva cost a packet too I think - it really shouldn’t be as bad as it is. Anyway, rant over and enjoy your evening! You’re right, theres a lot of positives atm, for example the better performances and youth coming through. However the goals conceded is a joke tbh, somethings got to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 32 minutes ago, pl00peh91 said: Sorry this is a bit of a rant, but how on Earth are we expected to make any level of progress when our forwards are routinely expected to score three goals for us to win the game? We have Kalas and Klose, two CBs who have both secured promotion out of the Championship before playing in a defence which is more porous than a house on a flood plane during Storm Eunice. We signed Danny Simpson for absolutely no reason whatsoever despite our financial difficulties and have chosen instead to rely on youth to fill the RB / RWB spot instead. We are five points worse off after 35 games than last season and in my view the only reason the defence is getting relatively easy ride from the fans in terms of criticism is because the bottom 3 are probably the worst we have seen in the Championship in living memory, and two out of the bottom four have suffered points deductions. This time last year Rotherham were 22nd with 32 points, for example. You are welcome to tell me I am being overly negative and I appreciate our young players have improved a lot, and that our future looks brighter than it did 12 months ago. But is it too much to ask to watch our team keep a clean sheet for once in a while, especially given the level of experience within the CB position? Kalas cost £8m and Dasilva cost a packet too I think - it really shouldn’t be as bad as it is. Anyway, rant over and enjoy your evening! Another cheerful post! Thank you for being a friend. Over to you Andrew... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted February 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Curr Avon said: Another cheerful post! Thank you for being a friend. Over to you Andrew.. Football is an emotive sport and sometimes you just need to vent mate. At least my post wasn’t ladened with sarcasm. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) First you have to figure out the problem. Crosses we aren't great Stopping crosses aren't great Our way of marking corners isn't great. We run out of steam at the end of game ............... The ones above are pretty basic. The ones below need to be solved throughout rest of season and summer. ............... Does our defence get enough protection from midfield? How are we in transition, do players actually know their jobs, are they the right jobs? Where do we press, how and when? How do we stop so much time in our own half? ................ Some of it is individual errors. But some of it comes down to management decisions. Either way right now it's not great, Step one for me.... Players going all out to stop those crosses + players being so much better in owning our own box Edited February 26, 2022 by The turtle 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, pl00peh91 said: Football is an emotive sport and sometimes you just need to vent mate. At least my post wasn’t ladened with sarcasm. No worries, I've vented aplenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Difference with this and last season is the 2nd half of last we were a joke whereas (today apart) we have shown signs we are improving. I agree the defence needs work but in all honesty this season is dead and it’s about blooding youngsters and trying to think about next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I remain supportive of Nigel but the one thing I expected from him this season was an improvement in our defensive record. So far little or no sign of that so it's fair to ask questions of him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 When our front line are off song , which they have been for the last two games ,the defence isn’t resilient enough to compensate. It is incredible how easy it is for the opponents to score against us. Would we believe better sacrificing one of our forwards to put an extra defender in away from home at least? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, chinapig said: I remain supportive of Nigel but the one thing I expected from him this season was an improvement in our defensive record. So far little or no sign of that so it's fair to ask questions of him. I thought we would get tough to beat and perhaps be a bit ‘ workmanlike’ as we developed our base. The goals and entertainment would be the final part of the jigsaw but I have never known us so easy to score against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Probably worth considering not playing a back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, TBW said: Probably worth considering not playing a back three. I dont think it matters how many we play back there, there is no appetite to actually defend and be hard to beat. We have 2 experienced international centre backs now, a decent championship keeper behind them, and it still makes no difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin-op Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 I know Kalas is seen as a god by some on here but I will be very glad to see the back of him! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, TBW said: Probably worth considering not playing a back three. Started with a back four today from what I could see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, And Its Smith said: Started with a back four today from what I could see Yep, 4-diamond-2….as most of us thought pre-game was both the right eleven and set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniro Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) It does seem that the Simpson signing has not got the scrutiny it deserves. At the time it made a lot of sense. We are so weak in that position. Is he injured? Edited February 26, 2022 by Daniro Sp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Daniro said: It does seem that the Simpson signing has not got the scrutiny it deserves. At the time it made a lot of sense. We are so weak in that position. Is he injured? It's a question that should be asked but I doubt anybody will have the nerve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, pl00peh91 said: Football is an emotive sport and sometimes you just need to vent mate. At least my post wasn’t ladened with sarcasm. Don't upset the sycophantic fanboys whatever you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, chinapig said: It's a question that should be asked but I doubt anybody will have the nerve. There is absolutely no accountability. A total free hand. It may work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, 4-diamond-2….as most of us thought pre-game was both the right eleven and set-up. We do not have the personnel available for a back four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, VT05763 said: We do not have the personnel available for a back four. Depends who you select, where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: Depends who you select, where. We don't have a right back - very basic issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, VT05763 said: We don't have a right back - very basic issue. We have Simpson. What was the point of bringing him here? Another pointless signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Super said: We have Simpson. What was the point of bringing him here? Another pointless signing. He is a £7000 a week "mascot". Only here as a favour by the looks of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, VT05763 said: We don't have a right back - very basic issue. We do, but each of them is out of form or out of favour, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: We do, but each of them is out of form or out of favour, etc. Correct , so don't set up with a back four. Astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Correct , so don't set up with a back four. Astonishing. We don’t have a wingback, so what do you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, VT05763 said: We don't have a right back - very basic issue. We have Kalas who was a right back in a promotion team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Correct , so don't set up with a back four. Astonishing. Yep, we played Sam Bell there last week v Boro….that was ok. We played Dasilva there on Tuesday…that was ok. You can’t have your cake and eat it? So was it astonishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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