Champfan45 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) I really think were it not for the injury he would be sold already. Bournemouth bid for £10 million in spite of the fact he's not even starting. To me he has the profile of a modern centre forward -- high pressing, can drop deep and receive to feet, good dribbler, finishing with both feet. If he continues to bulk up it's going to be very difficult to get the ball of him. Its not uncommon for younger players to have an inconsistent first touch, and if he can refine that and work on his aerial ability the sky is the limit. I think he would fit well on team like Southampton or Leeds that like to press high and employ vertical, direct attacks with minimal time from winning the ball to shots on goal. Those teams while they are direct tend to play shorter passes and mostly on the ground. I'm not sure whether he would have success in a more defensive side that plays a lot of long balls. Another area he may struggle is against teams that play a low block. I'm curious as to how well people think his skill set would transfer to the premiership; for me he seems a better chance than someone like Brereton-Diaz or Piroe. Edited September 20, 2022 by Champfan45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Palace eyeing him and TC allegedly: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sources-crystal-palace-eyeing-double-transfer-raid-on-bristol-city/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Palace eyeing him and TC allegedly: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/sources-crystal-palace-eyeing-double-transfer-raid-on-bristol-city/ I've long thought Palace is the most obvious "fit" for Semenyo in terms of Premier League teams and their style of football. But I also think Football League World only gets things right very occasionally and, when they do, it's by accident rather than design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I've long thought Palace is the most obvious "fit" for Semenyo in terms of Premier League teams and their style of football. But I also think Football League World only gets things right very occasionally and, when they do, it's by accident rather than design. Think they pinched this from our Bristol Post guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Think they pinched this from our Bristol Post guys? If you read through the story on the BL site, they quote Football League World as their source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, chucky said: If you read through the story on the BL site, they quote Football League World as their source. Ta, oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 I'm going to say something outlandish... If we get a reasonable offer for Semenyo, we should sell him in January... Unless he commits to a new contract. Beyond this window his value decreases significantly and it only takes poor form or an injury to leave back where we were with Diedhiou and now Massengo. I'm going to speculate that a few million in the bank is better for the club than 18 more months of his service. There, I said it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliOTIB Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, mozo said: I'm going to say something outlandish... If we get a reasonable offer for Semenyo, we should sell him in January... Unless he commits to a new contract. Beyond this window his value decreases significantly and it only takes poor form or an injury to leave back where we were with Diedhiou and now Massengo. I'm going to speculate that a few million in the bank is better for the club than 18 more months of his service. There, I said it. I never was but now I am with you. Considering the losses we cant afford to let another player leave for free or a reduced fee. Especially one we can get X amount of million for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, mozo said: I'm going to say something outlandish... If we get a reasonable offer for Semenyo, we should sell him in January... Unless he commits to a new contract. Beyond this window his value decreases significantly and it only takes poor form or an injury to leave back where we were with Diedhiou and now Massengo. I'm going to speculate that a few million in the bank is better for the club than 18 more months of his service. There, I said it. ….or PL interest is quelled by his recent form, and he signs a new extended contract here instead??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, Davefevs said: ….or PL interest is quelled by his recent form, and he signs a new extended contract here instead??? Then he needs to play at 100% and not worry about missing the World Cup. Against Swansea he was poor, despite the assist and goal-scoring chance (which sounds contradictory I'll admit) - no chasing or pressurising of note. It could only be because of his choice not to do so. He clearly got a rocket from NP , got dropped, and when he came on, showed a lot more effort and should have scored. He has been shown so much patience here, to find his feet and become the player he is. He can be so much more - but it is a terrible, terrible attitude to display when you are in a relegation battle and won't do the team thing. He needs to decide what kind of playing career he wants - one with wasted potential - that STILL gets him to be a World Cup player, and probably a Premiership player. Or one that 100% gets him a premiership gig at a top 10 side leading on to a bigger club, with a huge pay-rise, and winning multiple honours. It starts with not picking and choosing when to put in a shift. 2p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: ….or PL interest is quelled by his recent form, and he signs a new extended contract here instead??? Then his form comes back... that would be amazing! I fear neither transfer or contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Is he rubbish again now or just out of form, I know which I think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Port Said Red said: Is he rubbish again now or just out of form, I know which I think it is. He's never going to be rubbish, it's totally confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: Against Swansea he was poor, despite the assist and goal-scoring chance (which sounds contradictory I'll admit) - no chasing or pressurising of note. It could only be because of his choice not to do so. That wasn’t his role on Saturday….he was the lane blocker, not the presser, playing behind Conway / Wells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 Seems to have gone back to Semenyo from 20/21. Lacking a bit of composure which he had last season. I'm sure when he next gets a goal a few more might start going in again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carey 6 said: Seems to have gone back to Semenyo from 20/21. Lacking a bit of composure which he had last season. I'm sure when he next gets a goal a few more might start going in again. Agreed, just needs that first goal (or two) to spark him. Let's also not forget that he hasn't long come back from injury, so essentially he's still probably not quite as sharp as he was/can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, Taz said: Agreed, just needs that first goal (or two) to spark him. Let's also not forget that he hasn't long come back from injury, so essentially he's still probably not quite as sharp as he was/can be. His 2nd medium term injury in successive years, cumulatively that could take a toll. He was out for a few months in 2021-22 iirc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Taz said: Agreed, just needs that first goal (or two) to spark him. Let's also not forget that he hasn't long come back from injury, so essentially he's still probably not quite as sharp as he was/can be. He looked quite sharp as soon as he came in. I think some people underestimate the role Chris Martin had in Semenyo’s good form last season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, David Brent said: He looked quite sharp as soon as he came in. I think some people underestimate the role Chris Martin had in Semenyo’s good form last season. Get on theme here Mr Brent , Chris Martin is a has been that doesn’t merit his place in the team don’t you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, David Brent said: He looked quite sharp as soon as he came in. I think some people underestimate the role Chris Martin had in Semenyo’s good form last season. I said on the CM thread that I’d prefer him to start than be a sub…but that if he did start it would be with Semenyo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I said on the CM thread that I’d prefer him to start than be a sub…but that if he did start it would be with Semenyo. To a certain degree he was the perfect partner for Weimann and Semenyo. I'd argue Conway could be well suited also. He dropped in to create space in behind which allowed Weimann and Semenyo to attack at pace. His current role off of the bench doesn't allow this to happen. Teams protecting a lead will be set up in a low block, which doesn't suit Martin at all. My arguement when creating the "Martin conundrum" thread is that his game isn't suited to coming on when chasing a lead. It requires a complete shift in our playing style. If he were to start, it would at least allow us to set-up in a different style from the start, and most importantly, from a drawing position. I think Semenyo is at a bit of a crossroads due to the emergence of Conway, and Wells re-discovery of form. They possess similar attributes to him (ball to feet types), whereas previously this is what set him apart from the other attackers. Having Semenyo, Conway and Wells all on the pitch together can often lead to a variation of runs occuring, which can end up blocking space, or not offering an option to receive the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan45 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 What kind of offer would you accept for him...is 10 million enough now? I don't see who else we could sell, I wouldn't take less than 20 for Scott and I don't think anyone will offer that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Can only see us getting somewhere between 6-10 mill max with a sell on included. But that’s still a decent sum to reinvest considering he cost us nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan45 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 Realistically if you were recruiting players for a club like Crystal Palace, how many centre forwards are there in the division that you would take over Antoine? I don't think any of the clubs who are likely to be in the mix for top 6 are going to be happy to part with their main striker, which could help. That would likely rule out BBD, Ndiaye, Sargent, Sarr, and probably a couple others I forgot about. Maybe this is a homer take but I don't think more popular names like Gyokeres, Piroe, or Akpom are any better than Antoine is. And when you consider he's likely to be a bit more affordable I could see a decent offer or 2 come in for him. I think his eventual ceiling is as a solid starter for a top half Premier League side if his development continues to ascend. In the meantime he could be a valuable impact sub as he's able to contribute whether you're chasing a goal or trying to see out a result. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Rangers now been linked with a move, no chance of them splashing out the required fee for him IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted November 26, 2022 Report Share Posted November 26, 2022 I reckon we’ll get 8 million for him and a sell on fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 As per Nixon, a player named Etienne Camara is linked with two or three PL clubs. Don't know anything much about him except that he is 19 and plays for Huddersfield. In that context, what is Semenyo worth in the current market? I know that a) It isn't so simple and b) Is just paper talk but if £10m is the going rate for Camara what might Semenyo be worth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted November 27, 2022 Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 At the end of the day if we have a desire to sell, or he has a desire to leave, his worth is what someone is willing to pay, no more or no less. As his destination is most likely to be a low, or at best middling Premier club they're not interested in buying potential but need someone who can slot straight into the 1st team to help them stay in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted December 6, 2022 Report Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 01/11/2022 at 22:02, mozo said: I'm going to say something outlandish... If we get a reasonable offer for Semenyo, we should sell him in January... Unless he commits to a new contract. Beyond this window his value decreases significantly and it only takes poor form or an injury to leave back where we were with Diedhiou and now Massengo. I'm going to speculate that a few million in the bank is better for the club than 18 more months of his service. There, I said it. I don't think it's outlandish. I was very much in the minority with being disappointed we didn't sell in the summer. With just 12+8 months left his value has dropped since the summer. I don't think we've got a return for that value we've lost. He has absolutely zero interest in signing a new contract. He must be on pretty modest wages so the fact he hasn't signed to boost his income says it all really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted December 9, 2022 Report Share Posted December 9, 2022 More speculation here….https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/fenerbahce-antoine-semenyo-bristol-city-rangers-crystal-palace-3948063 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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