CTIDhc Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 New Semenyo bid (maybe just about enough?) and some positive Scott news! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but how can they agree personal terms before a bid has been accepted? Surely they're not allowed to talk to the player before being given permission and a bid accepted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Roger Red Hat said: With whom? Amazing isn't it? We have spent years trying to find and develop a player with his pace and power, and now some posters seem to think they are 10 a penny. Perhaps we could pop up the Downs on Sunday morning like the old days and pick a couple of strikers up there? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Bournemouth bought Lloyd Kelly for 13 million. Do we value Semenyo more or less than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, cheese said: Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but how can they agree personal terms before a bid has been accepted? Surely they're not allowed to talk to the player before being given permission and a bid accepted? Always seems to happen these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I would like to see him turn them down stay here and carry on scoring goals then come the summer he'll be looking at a bigger and better move. Probably pure fantasy i know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) I guess £12m + £3m add-ons would be tempting for the club and not bad all things considered (except having to find a reliable substitute this month) Adding virtually £20m+ for Scott next season would be good business...even if as a supporter I'd really like to see them at City for a longer period. Edited January 19, 2023 by Dan Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Cigar Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, cheese said: Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but how can they agree personal terms before a bid has been accepted? Surely they're not allowed to talk to the player before being given permission and a bid accepted? Good point. And seems rather presumptuous. Kind of thing pushed by an agent, you'd imagine. But, also indicates that Semenyo is obviously pushing to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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!james Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, cheese said: Sorry if this has been answered elsewhere, but how can they agree personal terms before a bid has been accepted? Surely they're not allowed to talk to the player before being given permission and a bid accepted? Yes usually happens these days, clubs should give consent for the player/agent to discuss terms with club and then they can agree a few if the player actually wants to move there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfitInMyPocket Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Definitely going to need a replacement who can play up top or either side. I hope Nige, Tinns and the recruitment team have done their work early to try get a replacement in who we can help progress, it might be too early for Bell to play consistently, if and when Martin goes we will need a striker with power and pace but there's far too few of them nowadays. There's been a real lack of good forwards coming through in the last couple years in the Football League hence why they are going for a premium. It's even happening at the top of the football pyramid, you can see that with the older strikers being much more prominent and not many young forwards breaking through. If Conway and Weimann weren't injured I think we'd be more likely to get the deal done quicker but now we can play hardball a bit more with the circumstances. Wouldn't blame him for making the move if we accept, big chance in the Premier League with a possibility of staying up, a massive increase in his wages and increasing his own stock in the process, hope we get the money we want for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Super said: I would like to see him turn them down stay here and carry on scoring goals then come the summer he'll be looking at a bigger and better move. Probably pure fantasy i know. I understand this view, however put yourself in Semenyo shoes, guaranteed 6 months in the premier league, 10x pay rise, history of medium term injuries etc. I’d be pushing for it if I was him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 **** me it’s like a game show 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just one of many targets for these wealthy yet desperate PL sides. Sounds like £10m their upper limit or will they be back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Big C said: Bournemouth bought Lloyd Kelly for 13 million. Do we value Semenyo more or less than that? Depends how we take into account the impact of Covid on championship players values in the context of the exposure championship clubs suffered in the same period, while considering strikers tend to be worth more. If I was in City's position, I'd look at spread fees which would be more of a help longer term with FFP. So something akin to £8m up front plus £5m across the next 32 months, with further £1m if Bournemouth avoid relegation from EPL otherwise appearance based clauses, and a standard 10-20% sell-on-profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: **** me it’s like a game show 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Fuber said: Depends how we take into account the impact of Covid on championship players values in the context of the exposure championship clubs suffered in the same period, while considering strikers tend to be worth more. If I was in City's position, I'd look at spread fees which would be more of a help longer term with FFP. So something akin to £8m up front plus £5m across the next 32 months, with further £1m if Bournemouth avoid relegation from EPL otherwise appearance based clauses, and a standard 10-20% sell-on-profit. Isn't that a difference between amortisation and cash flow though? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Just one of many targets for these wealthy yet desperate PL sides. Sounds like £10m their upper limit or will they be back? I reckon he will be gone unfortunately. City holding out for what they want though is brilliant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: I reckon he will be gone unfortunately. City holding out for what they want though is brilliant This January to Bournemouth or someone else? It is- although I do still look at Birmingham v EFL in 2019 with a slight bit of worry and wonder if anything is applicable here. (They got charged with misconduct when rejecting Che Adams bids in Jan 2019). I reckon we have been much more cooperative but who knows what was requested/haggled behind closed doors. Edited January 19, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: This January to Bournemouth or someone else? It is- although I do still look at Birmingham v EFL in 2019 with a slight bit of worry and wonder if anything is applicable here. (They got charged with misconduct when rejecting Che Adams bids in Jan 2019). I don't think we've acted like them but.. Bournemouth this January. Seem very keen. Just my opinion though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Red Hat Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Big C said: Bournemouth bought Lloyd Kelly for 13 million. Do we value Semenyo more or less than that? Exactly. And if I remember correctly didn't we sell Bobby Reid for 9 million? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Rocky said: 'The club has moved on to other targets' Classic negotiating line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Rocky said: Surprised we didn’t take that… especially considering West Ham have got Ings for 12m today. I know if I was a Bournemouth fan who I’d rather they spend that money on out of the 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, TomF said: Trouble here is if we don't sell him now, how will the player react.. In a professional way hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 4-0 loss to Forest on the weekend, they'll be back. And the price is now 15m 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Negan said: Surprised we didn’t take that… especially considering West Ham have got Ings for 12m today. I know if I was a Bournemouth fan who I’d rather they spend that money on out of the 2. I would imagine that Ings is on 60k plus a week where Semenyo would be offered half of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: 'The club has moved on to other targets' Classic negotiating line Maybe...although PL clubs seem very keen to look abroad right now and Bournemouth are linked with a Lorient wide attacking player for £20m so maybe true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 I have a feeling this gets done quickly. They want him signed before 12pm tomorrow in order to be able to play this weekend. If Semenyo has agreed terms, negotiations could continue today/tomorrow morning. Wouldn’t surprise me if Semenyo is on his way to Bournemouth (medical) in case clubs agree fee. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted January 19, 2023 Report Share Posted January 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Maybe...although PL clubs seem very keen to look abroad right now and Bournemouth are linked with a Lorient wide attacking player for £20m so maybe true. That’s cracking money for Leyton orient 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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