Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Controversial start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I usually want all the home nations to win but it’s hard not to want Ukraine given the country’s circumstances 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Who's the co-commentator on ITV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, SecretSam said: Who's the co-commentator on ITV? Dave Edwards Ex Wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Commentator said at the beginning of the game that there is VAR but no goal line technology. Because they didn’t want to spend the money on it. Seems really strange to me with what is at stake. Come on Ukraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I usually want all the home nations to win but it’s hard not to want Ukraine given the country’s circumstances Yeah, normally I would be 100% for Wales (Welsh Grandad) but given the circumstances...I'm torn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Commentator said at the beginning of the game that there is VAR but no goal line technology. Because they didn’t want to spend the money on it. Seems really strange to me with what is at stake. Does seem bizarre - especially when you consider a goal line technology system is used during the Championship season for Cardiff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Malago said: Controversial start. In terms of yellows? I never agree with the “can’t give a yellow early in the game”…if the foul deserves it, give it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: In terms of yellows? I never agree with the “can’t give a yellow early in the game”…if the foul deserves it, give it. I meant the quickly taken free kick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Get in there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 That’s strikers trying to defend summed up. Jammy fucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Was a guaranteed goal before he even took it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Own goal …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 The worst hair cut in football does it again. He may not be responsible fir the final touch but he really is a talisman for the boys over the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Ah balls, Yarmolenko needs to leave that. How come they aren't playing such a big game at the Millennium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 How very fortunate was that.........from what i have seen so far Ukraine would be a great addition to the World Cup Finals.........Wales would not IMHO.......Just hope Ukraine can turn it around? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 James needs to stop falling over, trying to get a f/k. Allen too. I don’t think it was a pen btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Bin VAR now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bredwood Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Surely a penalty to Ukraine? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Var very consistent. Consistently shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: James needs to stop falling over, trying to get a f/k. Allen too. I don’t think it was a pen btw. Cancel that, just seen it again……eke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 That’s about as stonewall as they get. Jesus wept 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Dave Edwards Ex Wolves Annoying whoever he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: James needs to stop falling over, trying to get a f/k. Rich man's Junior Bent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Ah balls, Yarmolenko needs to leave that. How come they aren't playing such a big game at the Millennium? It’s owned by the WRU (England football, has never been played at Twickenham) and the lease was 21 years that is now run out. But I think it was Speed that wanted this Together Stronger spirit, to create atmosphere which they didn’t get at The Millennium stadium. There was also an argument that money went towards WRU and not towards FAW. Edited June 5, 2022 by RedorDead BCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said: It’s owned by the WRU and the lease was 21 years that is now run out. But I think it was Speed that wanted this Together Stronger spirit, to create atmosphere which they didn’t get at The Millennium stadium. There was also an argument that money went towards WRU and not towards FAW. Thanks. Knew it would involve money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Thanks. Knew it would involve money... No worries, I have edited my reply with I don’t think England football has ever been played at Twickenham. May be wrong but I can’t ever recall football played there. However for some strange reason, the FA cup, play offs etc was chosen to be played at Millennium not Twickenham. So may be something to with RFU not wanting any football played. Also could be in return for Wales rugby using Wembley when Millennium was being built. Edited June 5, 2022 by RedorDead BCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Hennessey being Wales best player 1st half says it all. Allen and Ramsey have been very poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Hennessey being Wales best player 1st half says it all. Allen and Ramsey have been very poor. They’re used to having Morrell or Ampadu just sitting in, in a 4231. But as a two they are getting dragged about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said: No worries, I have edited my reply with I don’t think England football has ever been played at Twickenham. However for some strange reason, the FA cup, play offs etc was chosen to be played at Millennium not Twickenham. Yeah, but there are plenty of big English grounds. Always thought the choice of the Millennium was odd. Nice ground, tho' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Cancel that, just seen it again……eke! Soft but a pen for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Odd. Two legs would make sense, although tricky for Ukraine just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Russian VAR. Clear penalty that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 They could well rue that miss.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: They could well rue that miss.... Let’s hope so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. That doesn’t make it fair though especially when every other year it’s over two legs. Obviously Ukraine would’ve had to hold theirs at a neutral stadium Edited June 5, 2022 by East Londoner Autocorrect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rob k said: Soft but a pen for me It always seems harsh to me when Player A is going to play the ball, then gets penalised when Player B (maybe deliberately) puts his foot between A’s foot and the ball at the last second. Who is creating the contact? I think B is and it shouldn’t be a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. That's just daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, East Londoner said: That doesn’t make it fair though especially when every other year it’s over two legs. Obviously Ukraine would’ve had to hold theirs at a neutral stadium Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: I usually want all the home nations to win but it’s hard not to want Ukraine given the country’s circumstances PS not Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, SecretSam said: That's just daft. Is it? Some people want to the EFL play offs to be 6th v 5th, that winner v 4th and that winner v 3rd. This is similar. Can’t see that rewarding the teams with a better campaign in a play off scenario is daft 1 minute ago, SecretSam said: PS not Scotland I want Scotland to win when they play in qualifiers. The more home nations at a major tournament the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Not an extra game, Wales beat Austria in March. The Ukraine/Scotland game was due to be played then too but postponed due to the war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I want Scotland to win when they play in qualifiers. The more home nations at a major tournament the better. I never want Scotland to win. Ireland, Wales, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Author Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Wales beat Austria to get to this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, SecretSam said: I never want Scotland to win. Ireland, Wales, sure. Any logical reason or just blind hatred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, Leveller said: Any logical reason or just blind hatred? Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bredwood Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Leveller said: It always seems harsh to me when Player A is going to play the ball, then gets penalised when Player B (maybe deliberately) puts his foot between A’s foot and the ball at the last second. Who is creating the contact? I think B is and it shouldn’t be a foul. Have to say I agree with this. However, this season there were quite a few penalties given for similar tackles in the EPL. Though that probably shows a difference in interpretation between refs in England and the rest of Europe where they probably take intent into account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Both look rubbish so good news for England! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Wales seem to be a very lucky team and I'm still yet to see any difference between Dan James and Ivan Sproule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. Lots of Welsh blood in Bristol due to the war. My cousins in their 30’s didn’t know our Nan was Welsh as she died when they were young. The look on their faces was priceless when I told them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. 8 minutes ago, !james said: Not an extra game, Wales beat Austria in March. The Ukraine/Scotland game was due to be played then too but postponed due to the war. And thanks. Point still stands though about rewarding better campaigns with home advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. I have German family and yet people think I’m weird for wanting Germany to win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Wales seem to be a very lucky team and I'm still yet to see any difference between Dan James and Ivan Sproule Fewer red cards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. And thanks. Point still stands though about rewarding better campaigns with home advantage How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. So why would you NEVER want Scotland to win? Against anyone? Logically suggests you dislike them more than Russia, Argentina, North Korea… ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, cidercity1987 said: How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, cidercity1987 said: How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams All done by rankings and points won I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, bredwood said: Have to say I agree with this. However, this season there were quite a few penalties given for similar tackles in the EPL. Though that probably shows a difference in interpretation between refs in England and the rest of Europe where they probably take intent into account. Can understand that view if there were no advantage gained by the defending team. In this instance, I would say the Ukraine player was in a position to make positive play, he was upright, had his balance and able to take control of the ball. It was a direct advantage to Wales that he was fouled, all be it unintentionally. Anywhere else on the pitch, that would have been given as a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) Ukraine haven't played well but are only one goal down with 20 minutes to go... Let's buy some Kleenex and have a wanky Byzantine party.... Edited June 5, 2022 by B1ackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Leveller said: So why would you NEVER want Scotland to win? Against anyone? Logically suggests you dislike them more than Russia, Argentina, North Korea… ? Russia isn't likely, nor N Korea. And what's the deal with Argentina? Think it's your prejudice that's showing, not mine. Edited June 5, 2022 by SecretSam Grammar 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RedRock said: Can understand that view if there were no advantage gained by the defending team. In this instance, I would say the Ukraine player was in a position to make positive play, he was upright, had his balance and able to take control of the ball. It was a direct advantage to Wales that he was fouled, all be it unintentionally. Anywhere else on the pitch, that would have been given as a foul. Suppose, being unable to control the ball, he sticks his foot where he knows he’ll be kicked, “buying” a foul? This happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Wales are going to take an absolute battering at the WC based on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Russia isn't likely, nor N Korea. And what's the deal with Argentina? Think it's your prejudice that's showing, not mine. Well yes .. I’m prejudiced in favour of the UK teams against the rest. That’s my point. Why aren’t Scotland likely to play Russia anyway? And why wouldn’t you support them if they did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Russia isn't likely, nor N Korea. And what's the deal with Argentina? Think it's your prejudice showing. Nothing wrong with being prejudice against two communist countries and Argentina after the ‘hand of god’ cheating episode. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, petehinton said: Wales are going to take an absolute battering at the WC based on this Particularly if Bale isn't fit. Wonder where he's off to... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, petehinton said: Wales are going to take an absolute battering at the WC based on this Their prize is just reaching the WC - same as Scotlands was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Leveller said: Well yes .. I’m prejudiced in favour of the UK teams against the rest. That’s my point. Why aren’t Scotland likely to play Russia anyway? And why wouldn’t you support them if they did? No-one's playing Russia just now...you know, the war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, SecretSam said: Particularly if Bale isn't fit. Wonder where he's off to... Talk that he wants to play for his hometown club - Cardiff City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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