ExiledAjax Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Jerseybean said: Thank you everyone for your excellent contributions and suggestions. Let us know what you go for, and what you think of it! Quote
cider hoss rules Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Another vote for Left Foot Forward, Gary Nelson. As much the story of his journey on the way down as well as up, and a fair City connection as it details him being stretchered off at AG after a …. ahem….. ‘coming together’ I also enjoyed Full Time: The Tony Cascarino story. 1 Quote
Slacker Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 I really enjoyed The Way It Was by Stanley Matthews. Talk about a different world. Quote
Slacker Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Taz said: Anybody read the Christian Roberts book, and is it worth a read? Have been tempted for a while but price fluctuates quite a bit. I read it.Found it quite interesting to be honest. He doesn't really pull any punches about himself. 1 Quote
Mad Cyril Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 7 hours ago, In the Net said: Steaming In - Colin Ward - one of the early books about following football in the 1970's and 1980's. It isn't one of those typical hooligan type books - "we ran everybody off our manor", blah, blah, blah. An authentic account from somebody who was there at the time, not a main protaganist. It's been years since I read it, but I felt that it painted a true picture of what it was like to be on the terraces. Including THAT snippet: Trapped in the pub, I turned to Smudger. "Only chuck the glasses, keep the bottles for the close in work.." 1 Quote
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 A Season With Verona by Tim Parks has already been mentioned and check out Stamping Grounds by Charlie Connelly where he follows Liechtenstein home and away through a complete World Cup qualifying campaign. La Roja - A Journey Through Spanish Football by Jimmy Burns is also very good - the history of Spanish football and how it was intertwined with politics, the civil war etc. Quote
sticks 1969 Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 7 hours ago, In the Net said: Steaming In - Colin Ward - one of the early books about following football in the 1970's and 1980's. It isn't one of those typical hooligan type books - "we ran everybody off our manor", blah, blah, blah. An authentic account from somebody who was there at the time, not a main protaganist. It's been years since I read it, but I felt that it painted a true picture of what it was like to be on the terraces. Very good book and like you said not your typical bullshit Quote
sticks 1969 Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Anything from the brimson brothers utter crap 1 Quote
Loco Rojo Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Slacker said: I read it.Found it quite interesting to be honest. He doesn't really pull any punches about himself. I've tried to order it twice on ebay. Quite interested in reading it. First time it was cancelled, 2nd time it got dispatched (sounded promising) but the wrong book arrived. What I got was a different book called 'Knee Deep in Claret: Celebration of Wine and Scotland'. Just not ment to be. I am tempted to try again though if it's any good. Quote
maxjak Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Bristol Rovers..........."The Glory Years" But, Unfortunately it's just a blank sheet of A4 . 1 Quote
Port Said Red Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 7 hours ago, maxjak said: Bristol Rovers..........."The Glory Years" But, Unfortunately it's just a blank sheet of A4 . No, I found it....... It's in the fiction section. 1 1 Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Red card roy. Says gerry francis, was the worst manager, he ever played under. Clueless, long ball tactics, something like that he says. Thats gerry alright. Also gives holloway a slap, after a game at twerton. You warming to roy yet? Also alan dicks tried to sign him n the 70s. Quote
The Saturday Boy Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Another recommendation for Futebol - the Brazilian way of life by Alex Bellios Futebol: The Brazilian Way of Life - Updated Edition https://amzn.eu/d/0sykh0B Quote
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Taz said: Anybody read the Christian Roberts book, and is it worth a read? Have been tempted for a while but price fluctuates quite a bit. Pretty harrowing at times. Anyone who thinks Danny Wilson was a good manager should read it… 1 Quote
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 17 hours ago, Davefevs said: I liked his ‘the bottom corner’, following non-league teams around. Got a feeling he might live in Bishop Sutton. Yes, I thought Nigel Tassell’s ‘The Bottom Corner’ was a good read, especially about grassroots football. Since reading it I keep meaning to go and watch a match at Bishop Sutton FC, but haven’t yet managed it. Quote
Taz Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: Pretty harrowing at times. Anyone who thinks Danny Wilson was a good manager should read it… Thanks, may give it a read if I can find it cheap enough. Wilson didn't really do a lot in hindsight, especially for the drinking culture around the club at the time. Think the only reason Peacock was left out of the team that time after sleeping in a ditch was because he was physically unable to play!! Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Without a doubt, one of the most out of touch quotes ive ever heard. Times are tough at swindon, i may have to sell my porsche., lee peacock. Quote
SecretSam Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Usual shouts for "A Season with Verona", "Left Foot Forward" (we don't come out of it well!), "Brilliant Orange", I would add "tor!" by Ulrich Hesse-Lichtenberger, a history of German football, "Why England Lose" by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski...and "Steak...Diana Ross" by David McVey, a wonderful story about playing football back in the '70s (and really cheap on Kindle (Bookie McBook)) Would love to read the Roberts book. Quote
Eddie Hitler Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 The Damned United is excellent as noted above. My Favourite Year is a decent read; it's a compilation of several fans relating their favourite seasons for their clubs (80s / 90s) and very well written inclduing by Nick Hornby and Roddy Doyle. One piece is on City and titled "Thighs of an Elephant" referring to super Bob. I no longer have the book or would credit the writer of that piece. It's not just big clubs, Cowdenbeath was in there. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4263.My_Favorite_Year# There's "Among the Thugs" by Bill Buford if you want something a bit different. A reporter dives into football hooliganism to try to understand it. Unlike the hooliganism books written by the participants there's no attempt to glorify any of it. Quote
Dr_Castro Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 I'd like to push anything by David Goldblatt, if you like analysis and insight into football and society. 'The Ball is round' is a wonderful doorstopper history of world football, as is his later 'The age of football'. For understanding how the Premier League became the cess pit of greed and corruption, 'The game of our lives' is great and there is also a good 'un about Brazilian football 'Futebol Nation'. He's a local too, although a bit of a gashead. Quote
tandy Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) The Nowhere Men: The Unknown Story of Football's True Talent Spotters Great book about talent scouts, and some really interesting stories, including some Bristol City ones The Nowhere Men: The Unknown Story of Football's True Talent Spotters: Amazon.co.uk: Calvin, Michael: 9780099580263: Books Edited July 19, 2022 by tandy 3 Quote
richwwtk Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Eddie Hitler said: One piece is on City and titled "Thighs of an Elephant" referring to super Bob. I no longer have the book or would credit the writer of that piece. Matt Nation - A big City fan and used to be quite a prolific writer for When Saturday Comes. No idea what he is doing now though. edit - maybe not such a big City fan any more https://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/30-Clubs/4739-city-break Edited July 19, 2022 by richwwtk 1 Quote
Bristol Oil Services Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, richwwtk said: Matt Nation - A big City fan and used to be quite a prolific writer for When Saturday Comes. No idea what he is doing now though. edit - maybe not such a big City fan any more https://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/30-Clubs/4739-city-break I got as far as when he wrote he "couldn’t be arsed" and .... kept reading. This lad is truly one of us. He couldn't be arsed watching us anymore. Good lad! Only thing that puzzled me was him seeing replica shirts everywhere as I have always thought that compared to other clubs' more enthusiastic fans when it comes to sporting our colours, we, generally, er, can't be arsed. 1 Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Matt, was really harsh on steve torpey, i recall. Said his jumping, style, was like he was attached, to fly paper. Could do with some of that. 1 Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 There was another city fan who wrote for wsc. Posted some good pictures from, city bolton at wembley. May have been him who said that, about steve. Quote
Sleepy1968 Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 6 hours ago, richwwtk said: Matt Nation - A big City fan and used to be quite a prolific writer for When Saturday Comes. No idea what he is doing now though. edit - maybe not such a big City fan any more https://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/30-Clubs/4739-city-break I used to work with a big Gashead, Steve Nation, in the 1990's. I've got a nagging feeling this Matt Nation is his brother. Quote
TedsHeadIs Red Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 11 hours ago, tandy said: The Nowhere Men: The Unknown Story of Football's True Talent Spotters Great book about talent scouts, and some really interesting stories, including some Bristol City ones The Nowhere Men: The Unknown Story of Football's True Talent Spotters: Amazon.co.uk: Calvin, Michael: 9780099580263: Books I’m sure I once saw a book with the same title - The Nowhere Men: The Well Known Story of the Bristol Rovers Defence Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 Strangest thing ive read lately, is that steve perryman is a soothsayer. Anybody else read about this? He told one ex player, he would end up running a pub called the waggon and horses. This came true! This has convinced me its true. Hes told quite a few players, their fortune, Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 In Hoddles book, joe jordan, broke the spurs goalies jaw. Glenn, decided to go n goal, next corner gordon mcqueen said hey joe, il do this one. You did the last one, my turn! Quote
Isawjonshaw Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 13:10, In the Net said: Steaming In - Colin Ward - one of the early books about following football in the 1970's and 1980's. It isn't one of those typical hooligan type books - "we ran everybody off our manor", blah, blah, blah. An authentic account from somebody who was there at the time, not a main protaganist. It's been years since I read it, but I felt that it painted a true picture of what it was like to be on the terraces. Classic. Scally was my favourite of that genre. 1 Quote
Jerseybean Posted July 29, 2022 Author Posted July 29, 2022 Three others. Suzy Wrack's best-selling A Woman's Game, The hilarious tale of a Sunday League man in the middle Reffing Hell, Underground, Overgroundthe story of the fan ownership movement and the challenge it poses to what football has become. Quote
ExiledAjax Posted July 29, 2022 Posted July 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Three others. Suzy Wrack's best-selling A Woman's Game, The hilarious tale of a Sunday League man in the middle Reffing Hell, Underground, Overgroundthe story of the fan ownership movement and the challenge it poses to what football has become. Have you read Underground, Overground? Decent? Quote
Jerseybean Posted July 29, 2022 Author Posted July 29, 2022 57 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Have you read Underground, Overground? Decent? Not read it yet EA but it’s been recommended. 1 Quote
ExiledAjax Posted July 29, 2022 Posted July 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: Not read it yet EA but it’s been recommended. Let me know if you read it. Same area of interest I'm waiting for Who's Game is it Anyway to come out in paperback. Looks like a similar topic. Quote
Jerseybean Posted January 6 Author Posted January 6 Just started reading ‘Football is better with fans’ - devotion and emotion. Cheers and beers. By Tony Rickson. Based on the opening chapter it’s going to be an excellent read. Quote
chinapig Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I'd recommend Who Owns Football? ,- the Changing Face of Club Ownership by Nick Miller of The Athletic. 1 Quote
BS15_RED Posted January 6 Posted January 6 For anyone who’s in two minds due to the Gas content, give Geoff Twentman’s book a go, it really is excellent, even the Gas stuff. Quote
Lrob Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Not about football but I read ‘Stray’ which about Bristol DJ Milo Johnson. He went to city in the 70s and ended up serving 3 years after a rovers fan got stabbed and we apparently falsely charged with it. Absolutely brilliant book. Well written and mainly centres around Bristol music, fashion and a bit of football Quote
The turtle Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Provided you don't kiss me was a first class read. https://www.amazon.co.uk/PROVIDED-YOU-DONT-KISS-ME/dp/0007247117 1 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 6 Posted January 6 17 minutes ago, BS15_RED said: For anyone who’s in two minds due to the Gas content, give Geoff Twentman’s book a go, it really is excellent, even the Gas stuff. Yep, it’s good, read it before Xmas, got it signed by the Top Man himself. It’s written a bit different to a lot of autobiographies, and I think it made for an excellent read. 1 Quote
Davefevs Posted January 6 Posted January 6 On 18/07/2022 at 12:33, And Its Smith said: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Miracle-Castel-Sangro-Joe-McGinniss/dp/075152753X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3O8O1OY5K4Q1Z&keywords=castel+di+sangro+football&qid=1658143959&sprefix=castel+di+sangrio+football%2Caps%2C53&sr=8-1 Superb book I still haven’t finished it…might have to start again. Quote
1960maaan Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Here are a few I enjoyed , all very different. Really enjoyed this one , but feels as though it ends too quickly or needs a sequel . The next is probably one of the best biographies I've read , and revealing about how players injuries can be treated. The next is a different biography , not your usual story of a footballer and very worth a read. The last is one of the best City player biographies , he did have a story to tell. Quote
BS15_RED Posted January 7 Posted January 7 16 hours ago, Davefevs said: Yep, it’s good, read it before Xmas, got it signed by the Top Man himself. It’s written a bit different to a lot of autobiographies, and I think it made for an excellent read. Me too, I was fortunate to win it in a competition on @3 Peaps In A PodCast, Geoff signed it for me before the QPR game. 1 1 Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 I'm going start start Ally McCoist autobiography soon I've that Alfie Conn and Marvin Andrews to read and one about Cruff and Clough should all be good Quote
Oh Louie louie Posted January 7 Posted January 7 John sitton a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. That is a great read. 1 Quote
Chairman Mao Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) Mentioned earlier but Jonathan Wilson's book on Eastern Europe is a fun read. Angels with Dirty Faces is a bit of a slog at times. I actually have a soft spot for Roy Keane's first autobiography. Mainly for the bit about his transfer saga when he moved from Nottingham Forest to Man Utd. Kenny Dalglish steals the show. The IFA get thrown under the bus repeatedly. A very rare example of a pretty honest book published during a players career. Edited January 7 by Chairman Mao Quote
pj76 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) Loved The Glory Game by Hunter Davies. Would recommend to anyone. Brilliantly written and handled. Also recommend, as others have, season in Verona, football against the enemy. Crazy book. Not sure if it's in the thread but... All Played Out is totally brilliant book about Italia 90 by Pete Davies. Va Va Voom, recent book on french football is terrific. Currently reading Munichs, latest David Peace, and it's great. The Blinder by Barry Hines (wrote Kes) is hard to find but well worth it. Edited January 7 by pj76 Quote
Natchfever Posted January 7 Posted January 7 On 18/07/2022 at 12:33, And Its Smith said: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Miracle-Castel-Sangro-Joe-McGinniss/dp/075152753X/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=3O8O1OY5K4Q1Z&keywords=castel+di+sangro+football&qid=1658143959&sprefix=castel+di+sangrio+football%2Caps%2C53&sr=8-1 Superb book Belated thanks just bought this ! 1 Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 hours ago, Cider man said: I'm going start start Ally McCoist autobiography soon I've that Alfie Conn and Marvin Andrews to read and one about Cruff and Clough should all be good Are you William Wallace? The number of absurd, Scotch recommendations of all kinds you've been moved to mention in the last couple of weeks is hilarious. Alfie Conn? Sh!t haircut and couldn't cut it even in a sh!t Spurs team. One that was so good, it ended up in Div 2. But best of all, if you're such a football nut, why can't you even spell the name of one of the best, imo in the top 3, footballers that ever played the game. For pity's sake man, his name's Johann MacfriedmarsbarandtenpintsoftennantsCruYff. 1 Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Are you William Wallace? The number of absurd, Scotch recommendations of all kinds you've been moved to mention in the last couple of weeks is hilarious. Alfie Conn? Sh!t haircut and couldn't cut it even in a sh!t Spurs team. One that was so good, it ended up in Div 2. But best of all, if you're such a football nut, why can't you even spell the name of one of the best, imo in the top 3, footballers that ever played the game. For pity's sake man, his name's Johann MacfriedmarsbarandtenpintsoftennantsCruYff. I'm dyslexic that is why I've been editing posts but thanks you seem such a kind thoughtful considerate person Clough was Scottish pretty sure he was from Middlesbrough and pretty sure it hasn't just been Scots I've suggested as signings It didn't let me back too edit...maybe next time eh Or is that how this group goes?Enough off you scream and shout and protest and I get banned? Also Conn being one off the first guys in modern era too play for the both half's off the auld firm is why I'd bought it and why it would be interesting And Marvin Andrews has a interesting life away from football too he is a Church pastor but he also played at world cup got over 100 caps for Trinidad and Tabago Also Pat Nevin books also weren't just about football it was also what he did after football that made it interesting and would recommend it too any young football player as a good read Guy didn't even really want to become a professional footballer in the first place Edited January 7 by Cider man Quote
1960maaan Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Forgot to mention this one , The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw: The Robin Friday Story. Enjoyable if a little short. 1 Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Cider man said: pretty sure it hasn't just been Scots I've suggested as signings Have you read your posts in the Transfer forum? As for spelling. I believe you like football enough to have read the word Cruyff many times. And even if that still presents problems for you, there are simple ways in which a person with a diagnosed condition can nevertheless, in this case, write simple sentences correctly using simple, straightforward coping strategies. Diagnosis does not equal disability, per se. Believe me, I know. And btw, "per se" are the important words there. Kenny Dogleash. What a player he was, eh? The City could do with someone like him up front this season, that's for sure. Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Have you read your posts in the Transfer forum? As for spelling. I believe you like football enough to have read the word Cruyff many times. And even if that still presents problems for you, there are simple ways in which a person with a diagnosed condition can nevertheless, in this case, write simple sentences correctly using simple, straightforward coping strategies. Diagnosis does not equal disability, per se. Believe me, I know. And btw, "per se" are the important words there. Kenny Dogleash. What a player he was, eh? The City could do with someone like him up front this season, that's for sure. Your pulling me up knowing who I was meaning so it's pretty ridiculous behaviour isn't it? Spelled a few foreign names wrong and put them up on YouTube so what who really cares? What do you want me too do apologise about it or feel guilty?Someone blocked me already here today for the first time so suggest that you do the same if you don't like my heritage Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Cider man said: Your pulling me up knowing who I was meaning so it's pretty ridiculous behaviour isn't it? Spelled a few foreign names wrong and put them up on YouTube so what who really cares? What do you want me too do apologise about it or feel guilty?Someone blocked me already here today for the first time so suggest that you do the same if you don't like my heritage What makes you think I don't like your heritage? I'm just a fan of spelling. And realistic suggestions in the transfer forum. Edited January 7 by Merrick's Marvels Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: What makes you think I don't like your heritage. I'm just a fan of spelling. And realistic suggestions in the transfer forum. What makes my suggestions unrealistic one off the scouts even conceaded the Romanian winger could actually get a work permit I'll concead the Bulgarian the rest are all high enough to get WP especially the Czech Republic guys but there was Dutch and Belgium and Portugal league suggestions to and a USA player with a Irish passport also put the Australia keeper up too that has a Scottish passport Aren't sure about the Norwegian guy but said as much although there league has got better and is on the up again like it used to be Edited January 7 by Cider man Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Cider man said: What makes my suggestions unrealistic one off the scouts even conceaded the Romanian winger could actually get a work permit I'll concead the Bulgarian the rest are all high enough to get WP especially the Czech Republic guys but there was Dutch and Belgium suggestions to and a USA player with a Irish passport Not worried about their WP eligibility at all. Just not convinced any of your suggestions from Scotch fitba are any good or - specifically - are good enough to improve what we have. Frankly, the last Scotch player we should have signed because he would have improved us - but inexplicably we didn't sign (well done Lansdown's lovechild LJ) - is John McGinn. Other than that, the Scotch players within our reach are either pish or are not a sufficient improvement on what we already have. And for the record, I grew up watching Gerry Gow, Tom Ritchie and Gerry Sweeney. The latter two I've had the pleasure of getting to know. John Shaw is my style guru. And no man can exceed my admiration and awe for the one and only Joe Jordan. So my antipathy for much of the Picts north of the Antoninus wall doesn't come into it (the Borders being basically English - they play rugby union, for God's sake) Edited January 7 by Merrick's Marvels Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Not worried about their WP eligibility at all. Just not convinced any of your suggestions from Scotch fitba are any good or - specifically - are good enough to improve what we have. Frankly, the last Scotch player we should have signed because he would have improved us - but inexplicably we didn't sign (well done Lansdown's lovechild LJ) - is John McGinn. Other than that, the Scotch players within our reach are either pish or are not a sufficient improvement on what we already have. And for the record, I grew up watching Gerry Gow, Tom Ritchie and Gerry Sweeney. The latter two I've had the pleasure of getting to know. John Shaw is my style guru. And no man can exceed my admiration and awe for the one and only Joe Jordan. So my antipathy for much of Hibernia doesn't come into it. In that case I've got you wrong and appoligse But as I've asked before if Scottish players won't improve the team then why have so many went too play in much more superior leagues to date including Seria A Bundesleiga La Leiga many going too Seria A directly from Scotland and not just Scottish players quite a few foreign guys too at Aberdeen? Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, Cider man said: In that case I've got you wrong and appoligse But as I've asked before if Scottish players won't improve the team then why have so many went too play in much more superior leagues to date including Seria A Bundesleiga La Leiga many going too Seria A directly from Scotland and not just Scottish players quite a few foreign guys too at Aberdeen? The lad playing for Bologna is a good player. Captain as well? There will always be ones who escape to play elsewhere, that might have been realistic targets for us at one time or another. But everyone seems knows about them too I very much doubt there's a player in Scotland who would - both - improve us and no-one else knows about. And that's where we are right now - with precious little money to spend and so desperate to uncover a hidden gem - a player no-one else rates, wants to join us, and will cost nothing.... but is still an improvement on what we've got. Even McCrorie - a player I like - wasn't a significant improvement on Tanner. What he's good at, the other isn't it - but vice versa also. That's why we've been looking in France, Switzerland, Croatia and so on. Unsuccessfully.... so far. Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: The lad playing for Bologna is a good player. Captain as well? There will always be ones who escape to play elsewhere, that might have been realistic targets for us at one time or another. But everyone seems knows about them too I very much doubt there's a player in Scotland who would - both - improve us and no-one else knows about. And that's where we are right now - with precious little money to spend and so desperate to uncover a hidden gem - a player no-one else rates, wants to join us, and will cost nothing.... but is still an improvement on what we've got. Even McCrorie - a player I like - wasn't a significant improvement on Tanner. What he's good at, the other isn't it - but vice versa also. That's why we've been looking in France, Switzerland, Croatia and so on. Unsuccessfully.... so far. Stephen Welsh the Celtic 4th choice centre back just joined Mechalen on loan for 6 months there are plenty off players that we have took a chance on from Scotland also I've mentioned before boys like Ralston and Johnston are far better footballers than McCrorie we could easily picked up Johnston from Motherwell know playing in.the champions league for Strum Gratz in Austria Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, Cider man said: Stephen Welsh the Celtic 4th choice centre back just joined Mechalen on loan for 6 months there are plenty off players that we have took a chance on from Scotland also I've mentioned before boys like Ralston and Johnston are far better footballers than McCrorie we could easily picked up Johnston from Motherwell know playing in.the champions league for Strum Gratz in Austria Yes I agree, Ralston is better than McCrorie. But you seem to have forgotten the fact that Rylstone wouldn't join us in a month of Sundays whereas an average Aberdeen player would jump at the chance - in hindsight, we should obviously have been in for that Dons CB who joined Forest a while ago. Likewise, Johnston joined a team playing in the Champions League. Not the Championship! Who are the Scotch players who will 1) improve what we already have, and 2) see moving to the Championship as a step up and career progression, and 3) because we've got no money, are currently undervalued, cheap, "hidden gems"? All these boxes need to be ticked. Answers on a postcard - but those players are, sadly, unlikely to be found in pictish pub leagues these days Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Yes I agree, Ralston is better than McCrorie. But you seem to have forgotten the fact that Rylstone wouldn't join us in a month of Sundays whereas an average Aberdeen player would jump at the chance - in hindsight, we should obviously have been in for that Dons CB who joined Forest a while ago. Likewise, Johnston joined a team playing in the Champions League. Not the Championship! Who are the Scotch players who will 1) improve what we already have, and 2) see moving to the Championship as a step up and career progression, and 3) because we've got no money, are currently undervalued, cheap, "hidden gems"? All these boxes need to be ticked. Answers on a postcard - but those players are, sadly, unlikely to be found in pictish pub leagues these days Lyall Cameron is far better than Bearnous and would probably play for his £3.500 if he leaves played well over 100 games for a 22 year old getting him for £300 000 too is a no brainer Put up too the teams chasing the Falkirk right back Keelan Adams including Leeds Utd so aren't sure about what your saying though but I get it it's ingrained Would even have Josh Mulligan in a Scotland team before Robbie McCrorie another 22 year old that I free from the same team both will go far watch the window Possible that Mechalen might be on know they've been watched by them in games there a team always looking too do business here in Scotland Edited January 7 by Cider man Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Yes I agree, Ralston is better than McCrorie. But you seem to have forgotten the fact that Rylstone wouldn't join us in a month of Sundays whereas an average Aberdeen player would jump at the chance - in hindsight, we should obviously have been in for that Dons CB who joined Forest a while ago. Likewise, Johnston joined a team playing in the Champions League. Not the Championship! Who are the Scotch players who will 1) improve what we already have, and 2) see moving to the Championship as a step up and career progression, and 3) because we've got no money, are currently undervalued, cheap, "hidden gems"? All these boxes need to be ticked. Answers on a postcard - but those players are, sadly, unlikely to be found in pictish pub leagues these days Lennon Miller if 4 million was there David Watson if name 2 million was there Josh Mulligan Lyall Cameron Lewis Mayo All future Scotland players watch this space All improve now or improve us in future as project players and are all sellable young and hungry and driven and motivated and Miller and Watson especially have everything too go and play at the top given time just like Ben Doak will do possibly at Crystal Palace Also said before that Aberdeen would be a great move for him.if there isn't any emediet interest from championship It took guys like McGinn and Ferguson a few switches in Scotland too finally get there big move And see a lot off similarly in Cameron and his game that see in Lewis Ferguson so at 22 with all that game time a move up there another season he might get someone like Bolonga interested Edited January 7 by Cider man Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) Yeah I know - I've laughed at the transfer forum. Josh McMulligan. Lewis Mayonnaise. Yada yada. How about Rab C Nesbitt? On the step you pop scotty. "Newbie" user, indeed. And "cider" my arse. Edited January 7 by Merrick's Marvels Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Yeah I know - I've laughed at the transfer forum. Josh McMulligan. Lewis Mayonnaise. Yada yada. How about Rab C Nesbitt? On the step you pop scotty. Cider, my arse. I was only answering your question and I'd be surprised if Rangers weren't looking at Cameron too since Barron turned out decent But it's fine if you don't rate Scottish football even when Italian teams signed guys like Hickey Doig Ferguson Rhandami directly from Scottish football and Seria A is superior too the championship by miles Miovski joined La Leiga Gilmour Adams McTominay Henderson all play there too and Henderson hasn't even been in the squad Edited January 7 by Cider man Quote
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 7 Posted January 7 16 minutes ago, Cider man said: I was only answering your question and I'd be surprised if Rangers weren't looking at Cameron too since Barron turned out decent But it's fine if you don't rate Scottish football even when Italian teams signed guys like Hickey Doig Ferguson Rhandami directly from Scottish football and Seria A is superior too the championship by miles Miovski joined La Leiga Gilmour Adams McTominay Henderson all play there too and Henderson hasn't even been in the squad So you can't read my sentence above containing points (2) and (3) can you? Idiot. Correction - I'm the idiot, for engaging. Because the fact no-onexelse can be bothered with your pictish ramblings tells you what exactly? See you, later, jimmy. Quote
Cider man Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Just now, Merrick's Marvels said: So you can't read my sentence above containing points (2) and (3) can you? Idiot. Correction - I'm the idiot, for engaging. Because the fact no-onexelse can be bothered with your pictish ramblings tells you what exactly? See you, later, jimmy. It tells you that young Scottish players can find a better level than the championship straight out off Scotland and your idea that there aren't any good enough players in Scotland good enough too play for City might just be a little wrong? Scottish football will always produce players that will be coveted by teams from stronger leagues And fact most have been playing mens football whilst our academy graduates at same age aren't says the guys I've spoken about from Scotland are much more ready too take up playing in better leagues Quote
italian dave Posted January 7 Posted January 7 Can I recommend the soon to be published book on Scottish footballers, by Merricks Marvels and Cider Man 2 Quote
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