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18 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

I just came across this https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424867/ trying to look up where BB posts now (I'm sure he is still active, just not on here because we're all morons). 

He can be found on the following site posting as The Trusted One

https://www.bristolcityforum.co.uk/

 

On 17/10/2022 at 21:59, phantom said:

He lives in Devon, wouldn't expect him to drive all the way just for this 

This is why he won't be at the forum 

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Always impressed he has such great opinions when he doesn’t attend games.

I'm pretty sure he attends all home games (except when he's in his holiday home) and watches RobinTV for the away games. Which is no more or less than many of us do (well, maybe we don't all have a holiday home! :) )

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That was very very insightful.  All three speakers were excellent.

A summary:

1. Accounts out in the coming weeks.  £10m better off that last year but still a big loss

2. FFP no issue, as expected

3. City current report from Nige "could do better" but "on the right course"

4. Academy and club much more aligned

5. No players close to signing new contract.  Problem is that wages are dropping and players won't sign for less money, which the club has to offer in the current climate.  Gould says very hard to compete with parachute payment clubs as well

6. Question about how Euell is doing and how his role affects what Nige does.....Pearson said worked with Euell at Southampton, he's thoughtful, a forward which is important.  Curtis more of a talker, loyal....good to have different characters. 

7. Fan loyalty scheme being revamped and out by Xmas.  Very different to what we have seen before.  More than just discounts.....experiences money cant buy.  loyalty points can be earned by spending in other retail., over 150 retailers in total.  Gould apologised for delay

8.  Nige was asked why he always starts replies to questions with 'ummm'.  Said he is thinking about what he shouldnt say! 

9.  Will Gould leaving trigger a restructure, maybe a DoF?  Gould said it is an opportunity.  Clubs are structured in different ways.  Structure is currently good in that they know what they are doing.  Scouting systems and coaches scouting work well.  Nige says we dont need to reinvent the wheel.  We dont need something new just for the sake of it.  Sounds like he wouldnt want a DoF. 

10.  Why do we tend to struggle against big strong physical teams Nige?  "Because we arent a big strong physical team".  Nige said he would like to challenge teams like Millwall better but it will take time.  Need to be more clever.  We dealt with them, they didnt open us up but we lost because of two individual mistakes.  Too many individual mistakes still.  We dont have a squad that will ever be taller man for man.  We can only add one or two players as we go so even if we wanted that we cannot have it.  Got some 'monsters' coming through the academy so could change if they are good enough.  Nige says he tells Jay Dasilva to use his height (!)......Jay doesnt get beaten very often.  Some of our bigger lads could learn from him.  We have a lot of pace in the squad.  We have quick footballers.  That is the model. Swansea have conceded 40% of their goals to counter attacks so we have an opportunity. W

11. We can become more consistent by learning to draw games that we then lose.  Need enough knowledgeable players in the side to influence teammates to settle for a point.  If we had drawn half the games we have lost we would be just outside the play offs.  Very tight league.  Nige is an optimistc, we are not that far away.  We have only drawn three games and we have lost games we shouldnt lose, either through careless mistakes or royal cockups!

12.  Asked on Jan Transfer Window, Gould says not a lot to spend.  We have sold £20m worth of players per year in recent years.  Recent strategy is to target the best out of contract players.  We look to be in top 10 clubs in terms of salary spend so that is a sweet spot for us.  We are attractive in that market and that is the market we are targetting.  In the event we sell a player we will look to reinvest a percentage of that.  (Nige asked how much and was met with laughter).  No magic money tree.  Nige asks about money a lot but is onside with where we are. Nige doesnt believe in collecting players.  Would want a centre back.  Important to remember we only want better than we have.  Cannot fast-track.  Will not sign a middle of the road championship player.  Youngsters coming through.  Need a Naismith there to help bring players through, a position where if you make a mistake it will often prove costly, like a goalkeeper.

13.  League average of home grown players in squad last season was 2.5. Ours was 6.5-7.  We are in a good location, would be harder if we were a midlands club.  Our long term future is our academy.  Tinnion works closely with recruitment team on squad depths.  They will look at youth depth before Nige looks to sign a player.  We dont need to be a cat one academy as we can offer opportunities.  Fewer loans going out now as more chance for opportunity now.  No more days of 10-12 loans going out.

14.  On Loans.....130 Premier League players currently on loan to 72 clubs in EFL at cost of £30m.  Dont want loans that will block our own talent.  Question asked 'could one or two loans in Jan not push us over the line?'  Gould said 'yes if they can provide enough value....no value when they leave 6 months later.  Tammy and Andy Cole given as examples by fans there....and Ryan Kent!  Nige says the market has changed.  He has taken Cleverley and Lingard (who was disgrace) from Man United, Kane from Spurs but didnt play him as wasnt good enough.  Back in those days first 6 months on loan was free.  Nowadays you bring them in and they are earning twice more than anyone else at the club so doesnt work financially.  The game has changed.  Premier League Loan Managers are expected to turn a profit. 

15.  Question to Nige of do you ever look at reporters asking him questions and think 'why have you asked me that?'  Nige said he isnt good at hiding it!  Wears his heart on his sleeve.  He doesnt like lazy questions.  IF journalists ask intelligent questions then happy to ask all day. Their job is to ask difficult questions.  

16.  5-3-2 suits us.  We dont have full backs, we have wing backs.  Sykes been excellent.  Nige likes 2 up top which this allows.  All of our strikers are better in partnerships and we have players who like to play behind strikers.  We aren't yet a 'clean sheet side'.  The system is there as it suits the players.  Nige and staff had conversation today about benefits of changing it but comes down to the fact that this is the best system.  It gets our best players on the pitch.  Nige isnt a massive fan of 3 at the back but its not about him. 

17.  14 Premier League scouts at a recent under 16 games.  PL clubs can take our players on the cheap.  Need to get them signed on their 17th birthday.  The WSM player we signed this week came to the club and Tinnion showed him how many first team players are ex academy.  Wolves wanted him but he joined us.  Gould said he would never recommend Premier League academies.  England under 19 players had hardly any first team appearances....Scott has a lot.  Maddox and Herbie Kane both below City now after leaving early chasing the dream.  Lloyd Kelly stayed and look at where he is.  

18.  Awful at set pieces last season.  Last 6 games of the season we changed to zonal marking and it improved.  We have unreliable markers so we need to defend zonally. It suits the players that we have.  If we had more reliable markers we would do mixture of zonal and man-to-man marking.  Second goal against Reading was a quality ball in and no blame there.  The ones the two games before that are very irritating.  Many internal discussions on it and practised it and practised it.  Will continue to do what we can do board our goal up.

19.  World Cup plans for players not going will have time off then programmes to do in their own time then mini pre-season.  One practise game.  

20.  Tinnion says Cat One academy wouldnt benefit us. Couldnt loan players out as would need those players to play against the Prem academies.  Costs a lot more.  Lot more pressure.  Cat One can still take other Cat One players.  

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That was very very insightful.  All three speakers were excellent.

A summary:

1. Accounts out in the coming weeks.  £10m better off that last year but still a big loss

2. FFP no issue, as expected

3. City current report from Nige "could do better" but "on the right course"

4. Academy and club much more aligned

5. No players close to signing new contract.  Problem is that wages are dropping and players won't sign for less money, which the club has to offer in the current climate.  Gould says very hard to compete with parachute payment clubs as well

6. Question about how Euell is doing and how his role affects what Nige does.....Pearson said worked with Euell at Southampton, he's thoughtful, a forward which is important.  Curtis more of a talker, loyal....good to have different characters. 

7. Fan loyalty scheme being revamped and out by Xmas.  Very different to what we have seen before.  More than just discounts.....experiences money cant buy.  loyalty points can be earned by spending in other retail., over 150 retailers in total.  Gould apologised for delay

8.  Nige was asked why he always starts replies to questions with 'ummm'.  Said he is thinking about what he shouldnt say! 

9.  Will Gould leaving trigger a restructure, maybe a DoF?  Gould said it is an opportunity.  Clubs are structured in different ways.  Structure is currently good in that they know what they are doing.  Scouting systems and coaches scouting work well.  Nige says we dont need to reinvent the wheel.  We dont need something new just for the sake of it.  Sounds like he wouldnt want a DoF. 

10.  Why do we tend to struggle against big strong physical teams Nige?  "Because we arent a big strong physical team".  Nige said he would like to challenge teams like Millwall better but it will take time.  Need to be more clever.  We dealt with them, they didnt open us up but we lost because of two individual mistakes.  Too many individual mistakes still.  We dont have a squad that will ever be taller man for man.  We can only add one or two players as we go so even if we wanted that we cannot have it.  Got some 'monsters' coming through the academy so could change if they are good enough.  Nige says he tells Jay Dasilva to use his height (!)......Jay doesnt get beaten very often.  Some of our bigger lads could learn from him.  We have a lot of pace in the squad.  We have quick footballers.  That is the model. Swansea have conceded 40% of their goals to counter attacks so we have an opportunity. W

11. We can become more consistent by learning to draw games that we then lose.  Need enough knowledgeable players in the side to influence teammates to settle for a point.  If we had drawn half the games we have lost we would be just outside the play offs.  Very tight league.  Nige is an optimistc, we are not that far away.  We have only drawn three games and we have lost games we shouldnt lose, either through careless mistakes or royal cockups!

12.  Asked on Jan Transfer Window, Gould says not a lot to spend.  We have sold £20m worth of players per year in recent years.  Recent strategy is to target the best out of contract players.  We look to be in top 10 clubs in terms of salary spend so that is a sweet spot for us.  We are attractive in that market and that is the market we are targetting.  In the event we sell a player we will look to reinvest a percentage of that.  (Nige asked how much and was met with laughter).  No magic money tree.  Nige asks about money a lot but is onside with where we are. Nige doesnt believe in collecting players.  Would want a centre back.  Important to remember we only want better than we have.  Cannot fast-track.  Will not sign a middle of the road championship player.  Youngsters coming through.  Need a Naismith there to help bring players through, a position where if you make a mistake it will often prove costly, like a goalkeeper.

13.  League average of home grown players in squad last season was 2.5. Ours was 6.5-7.  We are in a good location, would be harder if we were a midlands club.  Our long term future is our academy.  Tinnion works closely with recruitment team on squad depths.  They will look at youth depth before Nige looks to sign a player.  We dont need to be a cat one academy as we can offer opportunities.  Fewer loans going out now as more chance for opportunity now.  No more days of 10-12 loans going out.

14.  On Loans.....130 Premier League players currently on loan to 72 clubs in EFL at cost of £30m.  Dont want loans that will block our own talent.  Question asked 'could one or two loans in Jan not push us over the line?'  Gould said 'yes if they can provide enough value....no value when they leave 6 months later.  Tammy and Andy Cole given as examples by fans there....and Ryan Kent!  Nige says the market has changed.  He has taken Cleverley and Lingard (who was disgrace) from Man United, Kane from Spurs but didnt play him as wasnt good enough.  Back in those days first 6 months on loan was free.  Nowadays you bring them in and they are earning twice more than anyone else at the club so doesnt work financially.  The game has changed.  Premier League Loan Managers are expected to turn a profit. 

15.  Question to Nige of do you ever look at reporters asking him questions and think 'why have you asked me that?'  Nige said he isnt good at hiding it!  Wears his heart on his sleeve.  He doesnt like lazy questions.  IF journalists ask intelligent questions then happy to ask all day. Their job is to ask difficult questions.  

16.  5-3-2 suits us.  We dont have full backs, we have wing backs.  Sykes been excellent.  Nige likes 2 up top which this allows.  All of our strikers are better in partnerships and we have players who like to play behind strikers.  We aren't yet a 'clean sheet side'.  The system is there as it suits the players.  Nige and staff had conversation today about benefits of changing it but comes down to the fact that this is the best system.  It gets our best players on the pitch.  Nige isnt a massive fan of 3 at the back but its not about him. 

17.  14 Premier League scouts at a recent under 16 games.  PL clubs can take our players on the cheap.  Need to get them signed on their 17th birthday.  The WSM player we signed this week came to the club and Tinnion showed him how many first team players are ex academy.  Wolves wanted him but he joined us.  Gould said he would never recommend Premier League academies.  England under 19 players had hardly any first team appearances....Scott has a lot.  Maddox and Herbie Kane both below City now after leaving early chasing the dream.  Lloyd Kelly stayed and look at where he is.  

18.  Awful at set pieces last season.  Last 6 games of the season we changed to zonal marking and it improved.  We have unreliable markers so we need to defend zonally. It suits the players that we have.  If we had more reliable markers we would do mixture of zonal and man-to-man marking.  Second goal against Reading was a quality ball in and no blame there.  The ones the two games before that are very irritating.  Many internal discussions on it and practised it and practised it.  Will continue to do what we can do board our goal up.

19.  World Cup plans for players not going will have time off then programmes to do in their own time then mini pre-season.  One practise game.  

20.  Tinnion says Cat One academy wouldnt benefit us. Couldnt loan players out as would need those players to play against the Prem academies.  Costs a lot more.  Lot more pressure.  Cat One can still take other Cat One players.  

In fairness that’s a great summary

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That was very very insightful.  All three speakers were excellent.

A summary:

1. Accounts out in the coming weeks.  £10m better off that last year but still a big loss

2. FFP no issue, as expected

3. City current report from Nige "could do better" but "on the right course"

4. Academy and club much more aligned

5. No players close to signing new contract.  Problem is that wages are dropping and players won't sign for less money, which the club has to offer in the current climate.  Gould says very hard to compete with parachute payment clubs as well

6. Question about how Euell is doing and how his role affects what Nige does.....Pearson said worked with Euell at Southampton, he's thoughtful, a forward which is important.  Curtis more of a talker, loyal....good to have different characters. 

7. Fan loyalty scheme being revamped and out by Xmas.  Very different to what we have seen before.  More than just discounts.....experiences money cant buy.  loyalty points can be earned by spending in other retail., over 150 retailers in total.  Gould apologised for delay

8.  Nige was asked why he always starts replies to questions with 'ummm'.  Said he is thinking about what he shouldnt say! 

9.  Will Gould leaving trigger a restructure, maybe a DoF?  Gould said it is an opportunity.  Clubs are structured in different ways.  Structure is currently good in that they know what they are doing.  Scouting systems and coaches scouting work well.  Nige says we dont need to reinvent the wheel.  We dont need something new just for the sake of it.  Sounds like he wouldnt want a DoF. 

10.  Why do we tend to struggle against big strong physical teams Nige?  "Because we arent a big strong physical team".  Nige said he would like to challenge teams like Millwall better but it will take time.  Need to be more clever.  We dealt with them, they didnt open us up but we lost because of two individual mistakes.  Too many individual mistakes still.  We dont have a squad that will ever be taller man for man.  We can only add one or two players as we go so even if we wanted that we cannot have it.  Got some 'monsters' coming through the academy so could change if they are good enough.  Nige says he tells Jay Dasilva to use his height (!)......Jay doesnt get beaten very often.  Some of our bigger lads could learn from him.  We have a lot of pace in the squad.  We have quick footballers.  That is the model. Swansea have conceded 40% of their goals to counter attacks so we have an opportunity. W

11. We can become more consistent by learning to draw games that we then lose.  Need enough knowledgeable players in the side to influence teammates to settle for a point.  If we had drawn half the games we have lost we would be just outside the play offs.  Very tight league.  Nige is an optimistc, we are not that far away.  We have only drawn three games and we have lost games we shouldnt lose, either through careless mistakes or royal cockups!

12.  Asked on Jan Transfer Window, Gould says not a lot to spend.  We have sold £20m worth of players per year in recent years.  Recent strategy is to target the best out of contract players.  We look to be in top 10 clubs in terms of salary spend so that is a sweet spot for us.  We are attractive in that market and that is the market we are targetting.  In the event we sell a player we will look to reinvest a percentage of that.  (Nige asked how much and was met with laughter).  No magic money tree.  Nige asks about money a lot but is onside with where we are. Nige doesnt believe in collecting players.  Would want a centre back.  Important to remember we only want better than we have.  Cannot fast-track.  Will not sign a middle of the road championship player.  Youngsters coming through.  Need a Naismith there to help bring players through, a position where if you make a mistake it will often prove costly, like a goalkeeper.

13.  League average of home grown players in squad last season was 2.5. Ours was 6.5-7.  We are in a good location, would be harder if we were a midlands club.  Our long term future is our academy.  Tinnion works closely with recruitment team on squad depths.  They will look at youth depth before Nige looks to sign a player.  We dont need to be a cat one academy as we can offer opportunities.  Fewer loans going out now as more chance for opportunity now.  No more days of 10-12 loans going out.

14.  On Loans.....130 Premier League players currently on loan to 72 clubs in EFL at cost of £30m.  Dont want loans that will block our own talent.  Question asked 'could one or two loans in Jan not push us over the line?'  Gould said 'yes if they can provide enough value....no value when they leave 6 months later.  Tammy and Andy Cole given as examples by fans there....and Ryan Kent!  Nige says the market has changed.  He has taken Cleverley and Lingard (who was disgrace) from Man United, Kane from Spurs but didnt play him as wasnt good enough.  Back in those days first 6 months on loan was free.  Nowadays you bring them in and they are earning twice more than anyone else at the club so doesnt work financially.  The game has changed.  Premier League Loan Managers are expected to turn a profit. 

15.  Question to Nige of do you ever look at reporters asking him questions and think 'why have you asked me that?'  Nige said he isnt good at hiding it!  Wears his heart on his sleeve.  He doesnt like lazy questions.  IF journalists ask intelligent questions then happy to ask all day. Their job is to ask difficult questions.  

16.  5-3-2 suits us.  We dont have full backs, we have wing backs.  Sykes been excellent.  Nige likes 2 up top which this allows.  All of our strikers are better in partnerships and we have players who like to play behind strikers.  We aren't yet a 'clean sheet side'.  The system is there as it suits the players.  Nige and staff had conversation today about benefits of changing it but comes down to the fact that this is the best system.  It gets our best players on the pitch.  Nige isnt a massive fan of 3 at the back but its not about him. 

17.  14 Premier League scouts at a recent under 16 games.  PL clubs can take our players on the cheap.  Need to get them signed on their 17th birthday.  The WSM player we signed this week came to the club and Tinnion showed him how many first team players are ex academy.  Wolves wanted him but he joined us.  Gould said he would never recommend Premier League academies.  England under 19 players had hardly any first team appearances....Scott has a lot.  Maddox and Herbie Kane both below City now after leaving early chasing the dream.  Lloyd Kelly stayed and look at where he is.  

18.  Awful at set pieces last season.  Last 6 games of the season we changed to zonal marking and it improved.  We have unreliable markers so we need to defend zonally. It suits the players that we have.  If we had more reliable markers we would do mixture of zonal and man-to-man marking.  Second goal against Reading was a quality ball in and no blame there.  The ones the two games before that are very irritating.  Many internal discussions on it and practised it and practised it.  Will continue to do what we can do board our goal up.

19.  World Cup plans for players not going will have time off then programmes to do in their own time then mini pre-season.  One practise game.  

20.  Tinnion says Cat One academy wouldnt benefit us. Couldnt loan players out as would need those players to play against the Prem academies.  Costs a lot more.  Lot more pressure.  Cat One can still take other Cat One players.  

Nice summary. Very accurate - at least from the point I started watching, which was about half way through.

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That was very very insightful.  All three speakers were excellent.

A summary:

1. Accounts out in the coming weeks.  £10m better off that last year but still a big loss

2. FFP no issue, as expected

3. City current report from Nige "could do better" but "on the right course"

4. Academy and club much more aligned

5. No players close to signing new contract.  Problem is that wages are dropping and players won't sign for less money, which the club has to offer in the current climate.  Gould says very hard to compete with parachute payment clubs as well

6. Question about how Euell is doing and how his role affects what Nige does.....Pearson said worked with Euell at Southampton, he's thoughtful, a forward which is important.  Curtis more of a talker, loyal....good to have different characters. 

7. Fan loyalty scheme being revamped and out by Xmas.  Very different to what we have seen before.  More than just discounts.....experiences money cant buy.  loyalty points can be earned by spending in other retail., over 150 retailers in total.  Gould apologised for delay

8.  Nige was asked why he always starts replies to questions with 'ummm'.  Said he is thinking about what he shouldnt say! 

9.  Will Gould leaving trigger a restructure, maybe a DoF?  Gould said it is an opportunity.  Clubs are structured in different ways.  Structure is currently good in that they know what they are doing.  Scouting systems and coaches scouting work well.  Nige says we dont need to reinvent the wheel.  We dont need something new just for the sake of it.  Sounds like he wouldnt want a DoF. 

10.  Why do we tend to struggle against big strong physical teams Nige?  "Because we arent a big strong physical team".  Nige said he would like to challenge teams like Millwall better but it will take time.  Need to be more clever.  We dealt with them, they didnt open us up but we lost because of two individual mistakes.  Too many individual mistakes still.  We dont have a squad that will ever be taller man for man.  We can only add one or two players as we go so even if we wanted that we cannot have it.  Got some 'monsters' coming through the academy so could change if they are good enough.  Nige says he tells Jay Dasilva to use his height (!)......Jay doesnt get beaten very often.  Some of our bigger lads could learn from him.  We have a lot of pace in the squad.  We have quick footballers.  That is the model. Swansea have conceded 40% of their goals to counter attacks so we have an opportunity. W

11. We can become more consistent by learning to draw games that we then lose.  Need enough knowledgeable players in the side to influence teammates to settle for a point.  If we had drawn half the games we have lost we would be just outside the play offs.  Very tight league.  Nige is an optimistc, we are not that far away.  We have only drawn three games and we have lost games we shouldnt lose, either through careless mistakes or royal cockups!

12.  Asked on Jan Transfer Window, Gould says not a lot to spend.  We have sold £20m worth of players per year in recent years.  Recent strategy is to target the best out of contract players.  We look to be in top 10 clubs in terms of salary spend so that is a sweet spot for us.  We are attractive in that market and that is the market we are targetting.  In the event we sell a player we will look to reinvest a percentage of that.  (Nige asked how much and was met with laughter).  No magic money tree.  Nige asks about money a lot but is onside with where we are. Nige doesnt believe in collecting players.  Would want a centre back.  Important to remember we only want better than we have.  Cannot fast-track.  Will not sign a middle of the road championship player.  Youngsters coming through.  Need a Naismith there to help bring players through, a position where if you make a mistake it will often prove costly, like a goalkeeper.

13.  League average of home grown players in squad last season was 2.5. Ours was 6.5-7.  We are in a good location, would be harder if we were a midlands club.  Our long term future is our academy.  Tinnion works closely with recruitment team on squad depths.  They will look at youth depth before Nige looks to sign a player.  We dont need to be a cat one academy as we can offer opportunities.  Fewer loans going out now as more chance for opportunity now.  No more days of 10-12 loans going out.

14.  On Loans.....130 Premier League players currently on loan to 72 clubs in EFL at cost of £30m.  Dont want loans that will block our own talent.  Question asked 'could one or two loans in Jan not push us over the line?'  Gould said 'yes if they can provide enough value....no value when they leave 6 months later.  Tammy and Andy Cole given as examples by fans there....and Ryan Kent!  Nige says the market has changed.  He has taken Cleverley and Lingard (who was disgrace) from Man United, Kane from Spurs but didnt play him as wasnt good enough.  Back in those days first 6 months on loan was free.  Nowadays you bring them in and they are earning twice more than anyone else at the club so doesnt work financially.  The game has changed.  Premier League Loan Managers are expected to turn a profit. 

15.  Question to Nige of do you ever look at reporters asking him questions and think 'why have you asked me that?'  Nige said he isnt good at hiding it!  Wears his heart on his sleeve.  He doesnt like lazy questions.  IF journalists ask intelligent questions then happy to ask all day. Their job is to ask difficult questions.  

16.  5-3-2 suits us.  We dont have full backs, we have wing backs.  Sykes been excellent.  Nige likes 2 up top which this allows.  All of our strikers are better in partnerships and we have players who like to play behind strikers.  We aren't yet a 'clean sheet side'.  The system is there as it suits the players.  Nige and staff had conversation today about benefits of changing it but comes down to the fact that this is the best system.  It gets our best players on the pitch.  Nige isnt a massive fan of 3 at the back but its not about him. 

17.  14 Premier League scouts at a recent under 16 games.  PL clubs can take our players on the cheap.  Need to get them signed on their 17th birthday.  The WSM player we signed this week came to the club and Tinnion showed him how many first team players are ex academy.  Wolves wanted him but he joined us.  Gould said he would never recommend Premier League academies.  England under 19 players had hardly any first team appearances....Scott has a lot.  Maddox and Herbie Kane both below City now after leaving early chasing the dream.  Lloyd Kelly stayed and look at where he is.  

18.  Awful at set pieces last season.  Last 6 games of the season we changed to zonal marking and it improved.  We have unreliable markers so we need to defend zonally. It suits the players that we have.  If we had more reliable markers we would do mixture of zonal and man-to-man marking.  Second goal against Reading was a quality ball in and no blame there.  The ones the two games before that are very irritating.  Many internal discussions on it and practised it and practised it.  Will continue to do what we can do board our goal up.

19.  World Cup plans for players not going will have time off then programmes to do in their own time then mini pre-season.  One practise game.  

20.  Tinnion says Cat One academy wouldnt benefit us. Couldnt loan players out as would need those players to play against the Prem academies.  Costs a lot more.  Lot more pressure.  Cat One can still take other Cat One players.  

Brilliant, thanks.

Was watching on youtube an hour or so behind and it randomly cut out halfway through. Hopefully it'll be uploaded properly at some point.

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That was very very insightful.  All three speakers were excellent.

A summary:

1. Accounts out in the coming weeks.  £10m better off that last year but still a big loss

2. FFP no issue, as expected

3. City current report from Nige "could do better" but "on the right course"

4. Academy and club much more aligned

5. No players close to signing new contract.  Problem is that wages are dropping and players won't sign for less money, which the club has to offer in the current climate.  Gould says very hard to compete with parachute payment clubs as well

6. Question about how Euell is doing and how his role affects what Nige does.....Pearson said worked with Euell at Southampton, he's thoughtful, a forward which is important.  Curtis more of a talker, loyal....good to have different characters. 

7. Fan loyalty scheme being revamped and out by Xmas.  Very different to what we have seen before.  More than just discounts.....experiences money cant buy.  loyalty points can be earned by spending in other retail., over 150 retailers in total.  Gould apologised for delay

8.  Nige was asked why he always starts replies to questions with 'ummm'.  Said he is thinking about what he shouldnt say! 

9.  Will Gould leaving trigger a restructure, maybe a DoF?  Gould said it is an opportunity.  Clubs are structured in different ways.  Structure is currently good in that they know what they are doing.  Scouting systems and coaches scouting work well.  Nige says we dont need to reinvent the wheel.  We dont need something new just for the sake of it.  Sounds like he wouldnt want a DoF. 

10.  Why do we tend to struggle against big strong physical teams Nige?  "Because we arent a big strong physical team".  Nige said he would like to challenge teams like Millwall better but it will take time.  Need to be more clever.  We dealt with them, they didnt open us up but we lost because of two individual mistakes.  Too many individual mistakes still.  We dont have a squad that will ever be taller man for man.  We can only add one or two players as we go so even if we wanted that we cannot have it.  Got some 'monsters' coming through the academy so could change if they are good enough.  Nige says he tells Jay Dasilva to use his height (!)......Jay doesnt get beaten very often.  Some of our bigger lads could learn from him.  We have a lot of pace in the squad.  We have quick footballers.  That is the model. Swansea have conceded 40% of their goals to counter attacks so we have an opportunity. W

11. We can become more consistent by learning to draw games that we then lose.  Need enough knowledgeable players in the side to influence teammates to settle for a point.  If we had drawn half the games we have lost we would be just outside the play offs.  Very tight league.  Nige is an optimistc, we are not that far away.  We have only drawn three games and we have lost games we shouldnt lose, either through careless mistakes or royal cockups!

12.  Asked on Jan Transfer Window, Gould says not a lot to spend.  We have sold £20m worth of players per year in recent years.  Recent strategy is to target the best out of contract players.  We look to be in top 10 clubs in terms of salary spend so that is a sweet spot for us.  We are attractive in that market and that is the market we are targetting.  In the event we sell a player we will look to reinvest a percentage of that.  (Nige asked how much and was met with laughter).  No magic money tree.  Nige asks about money a lot but is onside with where we are. Nige doesnt believe in collecting players.  Would want a centre back.  Important to remember we only want better than we have.  Cannot fast-track.  Will not sign a middle of the road championship player.  Youngsters coming through.  Need a Naismith there to help bring players through, a position where if you make a mistake it will often prove costly, like a goalkeeper.

13.  League average of home grown players in squad last season was 2.5. Ours was 6.5-7.  We are in a good location, would be harder if we were a midlands club.  Our long term future is our academy.  Tinnion works closely with recruitment team on squad depths.  They will look at youth depth before Nige looks to sign a player.  We dont need to be a cat one academy as we can offer opportunities.  Fewer loans going out now as more chance for opportunity now.  No more days of 10-12 loans going out.

14.  On Loans.....130 Premier League players currently on loan to 72 clubs in EFL at cost of £30m.  Dont want loans that will block our own talent.  Question asked 'could one or two loans in Jan not push us over the line?'  Gould said 'yes if they can provide enough value....no value when they leave 6 months later.  Tammy and Andy Cole given as examples by fans there....and Ryan Kent!  Nige says the market has changed.  He has taken Cleverley and Lingard (who was disgrace) from Man United, Kane from Spurs but didnt play him as wasnt good enough.  Back in those days first 6 months on loan was free.  Nowadays you bring them in and they are earning twice more than anyone else at the club so doesnt work financially.  The game has changed.  Premier League Loan Managers are expected to turn a profit. 

15.  Question to Nige of do you ever look at reporters asking him questions and think 'why have you asked me that?'  Nige said he isnt good at hiding it!  Wears his heart on his sleeve.  He doesnt like lazy questions.  IF journalists ask intelligent questions then happy to ask all day. Their job is to ask difficult questions.  

16.  5-3-2 suits us.  We dont have full backs, we have wing backs.  Sykes been excellent.  Nige likes 2 up top which this allows.  All of our strikers are better in partnerships and we have players who like to play behind strikers.  We aren't yet a 'clean sheet side'.  The system is there as it suits the players.  Nige and staff had conversation today about benefits of changing it but comes down to the fact that this is the best system.  It gets our best players on the pitch.  Nige isnt a massive fan of 3 at the back but its not about him. 

17.  14 Premier League scouts at a recent under 16 games.  PL clubs can take our players on the cheap.  Need to get them signed on their 17th birthday.  The WSM player we signed this week came to the club and Tinnion showed him how many first team players are ex academy.  Wolves wanted him but he joined us.  Gould said he would never recommend Premier League academies.  England under 19 players had hardly any first team appearances....Scott has a lot.  Maddox and Herbie Kane both below City now after leaving early chasing the dream.  Lloyd Kelly stayed and look at where he is.  

18.  Awful at set pieces last season.  Last 6 games of the season we changed to zonal marking and it improved.  We have unreliable markers so we need to defend zonally. It suits the players that we have.  If we had more reliable markers we would do mixture of zonal and man-to-man marking.  Second goal against Reading was a quality ball in and no blame there.  The ones the two games before that are very irritating.  Many internal discussions on it and practised it and practised it.  Will continue to do what we can do board our goal up.

19.  World Cup plans for players not going will have time off then programmes to do in their own time then mini pre-season.  One practise game.  

20.  Tinnion says Cat One academy wouldnt benefit us. Couldnt loan players out as would need those players to play against the Prem academies.  Costs a lot more.  Lot more pressure.  Cat One can still take other Cat One players.  

Thankyou so much for taking the time to keep us updated.   But, Why did no one ask?........Considering JD Silva came through the Chelsea academy, and trains day in, day out.....Why is he unable to    cross a football or shoot to a reasonable standard? 

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Mr Popodopolous

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Enjoyed it tonight. Not been to or even watched one before, real insight from NP, RG and BT.

Thought the questions were intelligent and not too soft, the Academy too not something I know too much about, hearing how we don't necessarily want a Category A was a bit of an eye-opener.

Had I come a bit more prepped, Idehen and Kadji would be two I would be interested in. As in, might the former be returning, is the latter on course for the pathway?

Thought that NP was spot on about Naismith too, the extra positive dimension he gives us.

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Thoroughly enjoyed it - I though Nige was on good form and gave a fair answer to every question asked without any political answers (and by that I mean giving the answer to a question he wanted to be asked, even if it wasn't).

It is clear that the club have found out, and perhaps the hard way, that having the players, coaching and background staff from top to bottom working in the same way and the same place and with the same direction will serve the club well, and the relationships and respect that the 3 on the podium had for each other shows that the club is on the right footing, even if performances and results can properly piss us off as fans from time to time.

I still believe the Nigel is the correct manager for this point in the club, and as he indicated himself he is merely the current custodian, I think it is the challenge that attracted him to the club, and that keeps him working hard, and if anything tonight has convinced me that he remains the right fit even more.

It is a real shame that Richard G is on his way, as a sporting administrator he clearly knew his stuff, and I guess with his cricket background could be more objective about it, than someone that might have played U21 football for a West Midlands club which convinced him that he was Mr Football.

One thing I found surprising was how Tins describe the number of Prem scouts hovering around our younger players especially those that are not yet old enough to sign on professionally. It's good that we can attract them locally, but just shows the competition we have for players these days. Especially when at 13-14 these are kids, talented ones granted, but kids nonetheless, and Tins pointed out how important a clear pathway is.

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42 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

I thought Nige’s comment about Jesse Lingard was interesting. I don’t know the details of what happened but Nige wasn’t impressed. 

I thought it was a good Q&A. 
It is a shame that RG is leaving, he seems a thoroughly decent chap.

What was said about Lingard out of interest? 

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