Ronnie Sinclair Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Hibernian have today appointed Brian McDermott (ex Reading, Leeds manager) as Director of Football, working with Johnson. First remit some more clubs for the bag no doubt..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 51 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Hibernian have today appointed Brian McDermott (ex Reading, Leeds manager) as Director of Football, working with Johnson. First remit some more clubs for the bag no doubt..... If I was Lee I would be a little concerned about this appointment: The following season, on 17 April 2012, McDermott guided Reading to Premier League promotion with a 1–0 win against Nottingham Forest after a superb run of 15 wins in 17 games. On 14 May 2012, McDermott was named as the League Managers Association Championship Manager of the Year at the League Managers Association Awards.[29] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, headhunter said: If I was Lee I would be a little concerned about this appointment: The following season, on 17 April 2012, McDermott guided Reading to Premier League promotion with a 1–0 win against Nottingham Forest after a superb run of 15 wins in 17 games. On 14 May 2012, McDermott was named as the League Managers Association Championship Manager of the Year at the League Managers Association Awards.[29] And has also failed in two subsequent jobs. And not been in management for 8 years. And, most pertinently, has been open about his struggles with alcoholism and how in some part football management had an impact on that - only getting sober after he had finished as a player or manager. But yeah, he’s clearly angling for Johnsons job. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 In all honesty, if we had appointed a decent director of football whilst LJ was here, then Nige wouldn't be doing what he has had to for the past 2 years. Mind you, not sure that LJ's ego would have liked it much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Johnson seems happy with the appointment - gives him more time on the training pitch etc https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cw45enpdvpeo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, eardun said: Johnson seems happy with the appointment - gives him more time on the training pitch etc https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cw45enpdvpeo Which is interesting, because when here he brought Macca in to assist Holden so he could spend more time in Recruitment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Which is interesting, because when here he brought Macca in to assist Holden so he could spend more time in Recruitment. Do you mean that you thought he believed everything that he was saying? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Which is interesting, because when here he brought Macca in to assist Holden so he could spend more time in Recruitment. And wanted Wade Elliott out as he was….concerned……about him! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 Can we have an LJ sub forum. Can it be on Gas Chat!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, petehinton said: And wanted Wade Elliott out as he was….concerned……about him! Concerned as in seeing him as eyeing up his job? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted May 4, 2023 Report Share Posted May 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Concerned as in seeing him as eyeing up his job? Never good to have someone around who's achieved more than you in any role as it = threat unless your confident enough in your own abilities to make the most of that expertise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: Which is interesting, because when here he brought Macca in to assist Holden so he could spend more time in Recruitment. In fairness, it is plausible as a manager in any organisation that you focus your time on the areas that need the most work. If Johnson backed Holden as a coach and that was under control, I can buy that he might have brought in Macca to work with him but is now finding it is not working out to have him run training sessions without Holden’s input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: Which is interesting, because when here he brought Macca in to assist Holden so he could spend more time in Recruitment. To be fair, we had no recruitment team under Ashton did we? He may feel that McDermott knows the Scottish Leagues better, so he is better focussing his efforts elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: In fairness, it is plausible as a manager in any organisation that you focus your time on the areas that need the most work. If Johnson backed Holden as a coach and that was under control, I can buy that he might have brought in Macca to work with him but is now finding it is not working out to have him run training sessions without Holden’s input. I didn’t lead to improved results in recruitment did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 10 hours ago, Northern Red said: Concerned as in seeing him as eyeing up his job? Not even that. Very good coach, really loved by the club, and LJ was really struggling at the time. Remember the reason for Wade leaving, was basically because he went into pro football from uni, he didn’t come through an academy so doesn’t know the process….!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I didn’t lead to improved results in recruitment did it? It really didn’t. But maybe McDermott’s involvement is a sign that Johnson is finally getting more realistic - or the club are being more realistic for him - about where his strengths don’t lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: It really didn’t. But maybe McDermott’s involvement is a sign that Johnson is finally getting more realistic - or the club are being more realistic for him - about where his strengths don’t lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 On 14/11/2022 at 14:01, LondonRobin said: 99% sure I saw Lee Johnson jogging in Sneyd Park today, what on earth is he doing down here? Dunno about Sneyd Park, but when we was in trouble during his tenure, Johnson definitely Neyd Spark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyCity Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 Just watched a Scottish Premiership fan forum - one fan content creator representing each team with moderation by a few ex-pros / current TV analysts. The questions posed to/by the Hibs fan were Johnson related and why Hibs are so streaky. Answers… Despite Johnson scraping into the top six (it looks like fifth place will get into Europe this season) and technically meeting his first target, he still has a long way to go to prove himself The appointment of a DOF is a very good thing as recruitment under Johnson has been extensive, erratic and "a disaster" The medical team needs to be looked at because this season, a ridiculously high number of players have been out with muscle injuries (which has led to being streaky, as the team needs to be pieced together by whoever's fit, regardless of the position they play) Sounds very familiar. Slightly unrelated but still on the topic of young managers in Scottish football… ex Bournemouth / Burnley / Hibs player, Marvin Bartley - now in his first managers job at Queen of the South in League One - comes across very well in this interview, if you have time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MuqmgHVbVo I picked up some similarities with LJ on how he approaches management but is much more articulate and impressive in his presentation and I believe he'll make it work. To make an analogy, Marvin Bartley is Neil Godwin from the Swindon office, in comparison to Johnson's David Brent. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 Qualified for Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: Qualified for Europe So he got there within five years in the end.......................................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 I think that was a huge part in him going there, wants European football on his CV. No matter if it's a minnow side in the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gazred said: I think that was a huge part in him going there, wants European football on his CV. No matter if it's a minnow side in the competition. Well it's still Europe and that's what his CV will say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalRed Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 23 minutes ago, E.G.Red said: Well it's still Europe and that's what his CV will say Yep people like to take the pi$$ I guess as ultimately his success was his downfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, LoyalRed said: Yep people like to take the pi$$ I guess as ultimately his success was his downfall. What success? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 I think he would be a top level youth coach or youth team manager. Can't really blame him for wanting to continue in first team management but he has too many weaknesses that inhibit him; weaknesses that have been the same at multiple clubs. Never seen him win at mind games with other managers either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 05/05/2023 at 15:41, SydneyCity said: Just watched a Scottish Premiership fan forum - one fan content creator representing each team with moderation by a few ex-pros / current TV analysts. The questions posed to/by the Hibs fan were Johnson related and why Hibs are so streaky. Answers… Despite Johnson scraping into the top six (it looks like fifth place will get into Europe this season) and technically meeting his first target, he still has a long way to go to prove himself The appointment of a DOF is a very good thing as recruitment under Johnson has been extensive, erratic and "a disaster" The medical team needs to be looked at because this season, a ridiculously high number of players have been out with muscle injuries (which has led to being streaky, as the team needs to be pieced together by whoever's fit, regardless of the position they play) Sounds very familiar. Slightly unrelated but still on the topic of young managers in Scottish football… ex Bournemouth / Burnley / Hibs player, Marvin Bartley - now in his first managers job at Queen of the South in League One - comes across very well in this interview, if you have time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MuqmgHVbVo I picked up some similarities with LJ on how he approaches management but is much more articulate and impressive in his presentation and I believe he'll make it work. To make an analogy, Marvin Bartley is Neil Godwin from the Swindon office, in comparison to Johnson's David Brent. If you get a moment have a Google Of Marvin Bartley.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 Some of the best football I’ve witnessed in my time watching Bristol City . He’s a decent enough guy and a tidy manager . I’m a little surprised how well he’s done at Hibs , don’t know Scottish football that well so can’t say if they finished where they should’ve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, shelts said: Some of the best football I’ve witnessed in my time watching Bristol City . He’s a decent enough guy and a tidy manager . I’m a little surprised how well he’s done at Hibs , don’t know Scottish football that well so can’t say if they finished where they should’ve They finished 5th, so I really can’t see that as any sort of achievement. They finished below Aberdeen & Hearts who are similar size & above a load of sides nowhere near as big as them. An achievement would be above the sides who finished 3rd & 4th, whoever is in charge they have no chance of anything more. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 4, 2023 Report Share Posted June 4, 2023 5th is a decent job. 4th is a good job. 3rd is very good. 2nd would be freedom of the city. He will have to finish 4th next season to keep his job I reckon and his best player will be leaving this summer so got his work cut out a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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