World Cup 2022 thread (football only)

[Red Army 75]

******* fair shout to him 

[Simon bristol]

This is what weve been waiting for!! Go on antoine!

[Mr Popodopolous]

6 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Hell of a delay on your wifi there

Indeed.

Edited November 24, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[Frenchay Red]

Just now, Simon bristol said:

This is what weve been waiting for!! Go on antoine!

What a great experience for him 

[BTRFTG]

7 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

Basically, it's being correctly in this WC, the football equivalent of Umpire's call. 

Possibly, but that's stupid as well. Like deciding what % of the ball has to be impacting the stumps or in line, then changing the law to suit every time there's controversy. How much of a ball does it take to remove a bail and how was that verified?

I don't believe the tolerances inherent within technology allow for the extrapolations made. We now blindly believe that technology supposedly tells us what 'would' have happened. Like Warne's first ball in The Ashes scooting to the boundary for 4 byes.

[pongo88]

5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Here comes Antoine.

Please score - we need the money in January 

[The Gasbuster]

Sag flag in that corner

[LondonRobin]

BBC sport live feed saying 'former Bath City Striker' coming on someone have a word

[!james]

Let's hope he touches the ball!

[The Gasbuster]

Just now, !james said:

Let's hope he touches the ball!

He pushed the keeper over

[Lanterne Rouge]

If only he hadn`t slipped!

[ExiledAjax]

29 minutes ago, LondonRobin said:

BBC sport live feed saying 'former Bath City Striker' coming on someone have a word

The guy doing it has to be either Gas or a Bath fan. Every mention of Semenyo has been about how he played for Bath. Not a mention of the fact he a) was on loan from us when there and b) plays for us.

Edit: Southport FC fan apparently, so knows Semenyo through non-league. 

Basically Gas then.

Edited November 24, 2022 by ExiledAjax

[Port Said Red]

3 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Possibly, but that's stupid as well. Like deciding what % of the ball has to be impacting the stumps or in line, then changing the law to suit every time there's controversy. How much of a ball does it take to remove a bail and how was that verified?

I don't believe the tolerances inherent within technology allow for the extrapolations made. We now blindly believe that technology supposedly tells us what 'would' have happened. Like Warne's first ball in The Ashes scooting to the boundary for 4 byes.

It really isn't, it's necessary to maintain the referee or umpires authority, otherwise we might as well get rid of the onfield officials altogether. With the cricket, everyone knows the rules, that's why they think twice about appealing when it's clearly a tight call.

[Curr Avon]

Mad! 5 goals in the last 25 minutes.

 

[1960maaan]

More shocking camera work, you could see the striker waiting for the keeper to roll the ball, but no. Camera shows a close up of Ronaldo and then some random bloke in the crowd.

One slip away from a draw, shame.

[Ivorguy]

The great thing is a Bristol City player came on in World Cup Finals and in a cameo performance did not look out of place.

Well done Antoine you have been a credit to us.  

[nick jones of hereford]

If Williams hadn’t slipped, he would have passed to  Semenyo who would have had a virtual tap in for an equaliser 

[Chivs]

1 minute ago, Ivorguy said:

The great thing is a Bristol City player came on in World Cup Finals and in a cameo performance did not look out of place.

Well done Antoine you have been a credit to us.  

And to think people ridiculed Johnson when he said we'd be playing in Europe in 5 years time.

We're playing in Qatar!

[BTRFTG]

Just now, nick jones of hereford said:

If Williams hadn’t slipped, he would have passed to  Semenyo who would have had a virtual tap in for an equaliser 

Which he'd have blasted high/wide *

* Delete as appropriate 

[MarcusX]

26 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

Neither was it obviously right, so by that logic officials errors may continue to be given provided they're not overly incorrect. 

I say again, why does VAR exist if not to eliminate errors?

But VAR is there to over rule only when obviously wrong. VAR doesn’t give the decision as such, it tells the ref if they’ve missed something or made a clear mistake (at least supposedly, every competition seems to implement it differently)

This excludes offsides as that’s generally absolute not opinion based.

[Tinmans Love Child]

Fair play to Antoine, he's played in a World Cup, on the pitch with Ronaldo, can't knock it!

[Midred]

5 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

More shocking camera work, you could see the striker waiting for the keeper to roll the ball, but no. Camera shows a close up of Ronaldo and then some random bloke in the crowd.

One slip away from a draw, shame.

Is Ronaldo paid by the minute for screen time?

[ExiledAjax]

3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Fair play to Antoine, he's played in a World Cup, on the pitch with Ronaldo, can't knock it!

Technically not on the pitch at the same time as Cristiano Ronaldo, but I understand the sentiment.

[Northern Red]

10 minutes ago, Curr Avon said:

Mad! 5 goals in the last 25 minutes.

 

Especially considering the tedium that had preceded it.

[1960maaan]

6 minutes ago, Midred said:

Is Ronaldo paid by the minute for screen time?

I wouldn't be surprised, needs to keep his earnings up.

[One Team]

13 minutes ago, Ivorguy said:

The great thing is a Bristol City player came on in World Cup Finals and in a cameo performance did not look out of place.

Well done Antoine you have been a credit to us.  

Agreed, I was more excited about this than England on Monday!

[BTRFTG]

4 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

But VAR is there to over rule only when obviously wrong. VAR doesn’t give the decision as such, it tells the ref if they’ve missed something or made a clear mistake (at least supposedly, every competition seems to implement it differently)

This excludes offsides as that’s generally absolute not opinion based.

So anybody who says VAR exists to eliminate errors is incorrect. If it isn't designed to eliminate all error, however marginal, then why bother? For example, in the same league are there always the same number of cameras, of equal definition,  covering identical areas of the pitch? If not, has anybody looked as to whether the more prominent clubs, with greater coverage and higher definition are in receipt of differential calling to their peers?

Why not simply allow marginal error - by giving back total control to the officials?

[1960maaan]

The latest thing with VAR seems to be nearer the Cricket way. It seems to me that if the Ref gives a decision it has to be a real ticket for it to be overturned. It may look wrong , or close, but unless they can see a massive error they go with the Ref. I'd just like them to get the Refs to look at the camera for big calls though. You end up having 2 Refs with possibly different opinions at times.

[Port Said Red]

9 minutes ago, BTRFTG said:

So anybody who says VAR exists to eliminate errors is incorrect. If it isn't designed to eliminate all error, however marginal, then why bother? For example, in the same league are there always the same number of cameras, of equal definition,  covering identical areas of the pitch? If not, has anybody looked as to whether the more prominent clubs, with greater coverage and higher definition are in receipt of differential calling to their peers?

Why not simply allow marginal error - by giving back total control to the officials?

I would certainly agree with that in England. They are taking minutes over decisions, if that can't decide in 30 Seconds, then the game should carry on.

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, Malago said:

There’s no way a championship ref gives that ...

........to Bristol City!

Cirrection