Barrs Court Red Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Will be interesting to see how this years winners start the competition. Only downside with Brazil is the flashbacks to the Favela mission on MW2. That level can go on the hate list with Badminton Road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, downendcity said: ........to Bristol City! Cirrection Correction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: So anybody who says VAR exists to eliminate errors is incorrect. If it isn't designed to eliminate all error, however marginal, then why bother? For example, in the same league are there always the same number of cameras, of equal definition, covering identical areas of the pitch? If not, has anybody looked as to whether the more prominent clubs, with greater coverage and higher definition are in receipt of differential calling to their peers? Why not simply allow marginal error - by giving back total control to the officials? Beyond reasonable doubt comes to mind, both cricket and rugby have benefited in my opinion from a type of VAR, it’s relatively new, and needs to be developed, it’s not perfect, but will improve and getting as close as possible to the correct decision is a step forward I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fpcity Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Will be interesting to see how this years winners start the competition. Only downside with Brazil is the flashbacks to the Favela mission on MW2. That level can go on the hate list with Badminton Road. Great multiplayer map though! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 They have a ridiculous amount of attacking options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Midred said: Correction! A correction to a correction. Is that like pooh-poohing a pooh-pooh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Raymond on the piss with a City fan 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Countryfile said: Beyond reasonable doubt comes to mind, both cricket and rugby have benefited in my opinion from a type of VAR, it’s relatively new, and needs to be developed, it’s not perfect, but will improve and getting as close as possible to the correct decision is a step forward I think. But that's point. Beyond what reasonable doubt, for whom and when? When I was a kid refs and umpires made honest calls, quickly giving decisions based upon what they thought beyond doubt. Mostly they were correct. Occasionally they weren't, but life went on and it gave participants and fans something to talk about. Players (and fans) had a rapport with the officials who were respected. Today we have officials afraid to give even the most basic and obvious decisions for fear of making a mistake. Players know and exploit this. In football this has increased cheating beyond measure and is rapidly becoming the ruination of the game. In cricket we've umpires at square calling for the TV Umpire to adjudicate a run-out when the batsman isn't within 2 yards of the crease. Fans conclude (correctly) if you can't call that what chance the millimetres at bowling crease, line of leg stump, or wicket? Egg-chasing - don't get me started on a game so stupid the officials have to inform the players what they may or may not do, therefore allowing the officials to control the game. That's why certain sides prefer certain officials and play to their predilections. A game so stupid that despite any amount of cameras at scrums the ball is 'competitively' fed to the feet of the second row, at line outs nowhere near where the non-throwing team may compete for the ball, or at rucks where the ball is adjudged to under control under a toenail yards from the opposition. If sport's requirement is to always reach the correct decision irrespective of its impact on both game and spectacle its called it badly, for competitive game and spectacle it no longer is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Ahhhh. Neymar at the WC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: Raymond on the piss with a City fan £50 done in 5 seconds. Cheers boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: A correction to a correction. Is that like pooh-poohing a pooh-pooh? Well pooh on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BTRFTG said: If sport's requirement is to always reach the correct decision irrespective of its impact on both game and spectacle its called it badly, for competitive game and spectacle it no longer is. In a nutshell. No-one ever walked out of a game saying `Well, I really enjoyed that, particularly the fact that the game was stopped multiple times so that every decision could be scrutinised for several minutes by someone who wasn`t at the ground and every one was adjudged correctly to the millimetre. If that means waiting five minutes to celebrate a goal then so be it.` 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Brazil are Brazil of course but always had Serbia dowm as underachieving at major tournaments. To an extent Yugoslavia too but definitely Serbia. Always seem to qualify quite impressively when they qualify, be it Serbia or Serbia and Montenegro but often don't take that into the World Cup itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Serbian gameplan working perfectly so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Don’t get the same excitement now watching Brazil. Now we see most the players in either the Prem or champions league. Used to be, we got to see these players for the first time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Don’t get the same excitement now watching Brazil. Now we see most the players in either the Prem or champions league. Used to be, we got to see these players for the first time. They have always had world class strikers. They now have Richarlison. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Super said: Serbian gameplan working perfectly so far. But weird watching Brasil playing the counter attack. Serbia look solid, dependable, unimaginative, reliable. No bad thing really but they'll need a spark from somewhere. Didn't Tadic once play an absolute blinder in a Champions League game? Swear he scored 4 in a game or something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, BTRFTG said: But that's point. Beyond what reasonable doubt, for whom and when? When I was a kid refs and umpires made honest calls, quickly giving decisions based upon what they thought beyond doubt. Mostly they were correct. Occasionally they weren't, but life went on and it gave participants and fans something to talk about. Players (and fans) had a rapport with the officials who were respected. Today we have officials afraid to give even the most basic and obvious decisions for fear of making a mistake. Players know and exploit this. In football this has increased cheating beyond measure and is rapidly becoming the ruination of the game. In cricket we've umpires at square calling for the TV Umpire to adjudicate a run-out when the batsman isn't within 2 yards of the crease. Fans conclude (correctly) if you can't call that what chance the millimetres at bowling crease, line of leg stump, or wicket? Egg-chasing - don't get me started on a game so stupid the officials have to inform the players what they may or may not do, therefore allowing the officials to control the game. That's why certain sides prefer certain officials and play to their predilections. A game so stupid that despite any amount of cameras at scrums the ball is 'competitively' fed to the feet of the second row, at line outs nowhere near where the non-throwing team may compete for the ball, or at rucks where the ball is adjudged to under control under a toenail yards from the opposition. If sport's requirement is to always reach the correct decision irrespective of its impact on both game and spectacle its called it badly, for competitive game and spectacle it no longer is. Admirable sentiments much of which I would agree with at a certain level of the respective sports. However we are dealing with professional sportsmen and women whose livelihoods depend pretty much on how good they are at their chosen profession (or in some cases how good they are at cheating), not forgetting all the other people involved in the game, including managers who can lose their jobs over a couple of bad results, that is why we need independent help when required to try and ensure the important decisions are as correct as possible and to some degree stop the bad guys from benefitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Midred said: Correction! Crap typist this end! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: A correction to a correction. Is that like pooh-poohing a pooh-pooh? A court martial offence! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 So we’ve now seen every team. Who’s impressed you the most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Goal was coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 Just now, Wanderingred said: So we’ve now seen every team. Who’s impressed you the most? From the top nations, England and Spain. France were very good in the second half, but not over 90. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 BBC wankfest over Brazil about to go into overdrive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: So we’ve now seen every team. Who’s impressed you the most? France and England Edit Forgot about Spain! Edited November 24, 2022 by Super Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Don’t get the same excitement now watching Brazil. Now we see most the players in either the Prem or champions league. Used to be, we got to see these players for the first time. Individual brilliance was a big thing back in the 1980s and 90s and often that alone won games. It isn't so much like that anymore. The game is full of athletes 2 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: So we’ve now seen every team. Who’s impressed you the most? Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) I’ve seen Neymar play plenty of times now. I genuinely do not see the love in or hype for him. Edited November 24, 2022 by The Coach 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: So we’ve now seen every team. Who’s impressed you the most? Spain. I know Costa Rica were poor but a lot of that was how good Spain were. They just looked like they could score when they wanted to. The right blend of youth and experience IMO. I think they`ll win it. Other than them, you have to say England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: BBC wankfest over Brazil about to go into overdrive Commentators and pundits can claim kleenex on their expenses/tax returns when working on a Brazil game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted November 24, 2022 Report Share Posted November 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Coach said: I’ve seen Neymar play plenty of times now. I genuinely do not see the love in or hype for him. Bolsonaro fan so a total **** anyway. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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