2015 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Why? It’s tournament football against a good team that were causing us problems. Most of the USA team play top flight football in England, France, Italy and Spain. They are a good team. We will win the group now because of that point. It's negative. Wouldn't matter who it was against, it's negative to play that way with the squad England have 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, And Its Smith said: Why? It’s tournament football against a good team that were causing us problems. Most of the USA team play top flight football in England, France, Italy and Spain. They are a good team. We will win the group now because of that point. Draw against Wales or even lose to Wales and Iran win. Then it’s not top of the group. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Globe Trotter said: Pathetic. How on earth can you justify not playing Foden? If we are going to do anything this tournament Foden has to come in now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Rossi the Robin said: No panic, USA sat back with good shape and was a predictable outcome, we should learn to not get over hyped. Will draw v Wales and avoid France in the quarters I disagree. They defended with good shape, but I wouldn't say they sat back. Even when we pushed them back they broke with real purpose and threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Rossi the Robin said: No panic, USA sat back with good shape and was a predictable outcome, we should learn to not get over hyped. Will draw v Wales and avoid France in the quarters We'll beat Wales and probably play Ecuador in the last 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone still awake after that? The decision to leave Foden on the bench is shocking. Southgate would have left a prime Gascoigne on the bench. Exactly this, Foden would get in any other team in the world 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Draw against Wales or even lose to Wales and Iran win. Then it’s not top of the group. Put a bet on that and see if you win. You won’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RedorDead BCFC said: Draw against Wales or even lose to Wales and Iran win. Then it’s not top of the group. Not sure it matters Given Netherlands aren't guaranteed to win to their group and I think we might be better off avoiding France 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Am I right I’m thinking that Wales are effectively out? They can’t overtake both Iran and USA and they’d need to beat us by four clear goals to go above us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: True. Bellingham looked like an immature kid out there tonight. Henderson took the sting out of the game. This is what some people don’t see,it was the perfect substitute at the time,too many football manager players on here thinking let’s go 4-2-4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globe Trotter Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: If we are going to do anything this tournament Foden has to come in now. One of the best young players England have ever had, yet Jordan Henderson is the answer when we need a goal. Wilson, Maddison too ignored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Rossi the Robin said: No panic, USA sat back with good shape and was a predictable outcome, we should learn to not get over hyped. Will draw v Wales and avoid France in the quarters You make it sound like USA were playing for 0-0 when they were far more positive than us. As soon as I saw the endless passing between Maguire and Stones at the start I concluded we were playing not to lose and hoping we might nick a goal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 It’s a good wake up call though in that XI that started tonight won’t get us far in the tournament. Cavalier Gareth is going to need some bravery and change it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) Just now, chinapig said: You make it sound like USA were playing for 0-0 when they were far more positive than us. As soon as I saw the endless passing between Maguire and Stones at the start I concluded we were playing not to lose and hoping we might nick a goal. Yep the last paragraph Edited November 25, 2022 by Rossi the Robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Just now, Globe Trotter said: One of the best young players England have ever had, yet Jordan Henderson is the answer when we need a goal. Wilson, Maddison too ignored Tbf Henderson made us more solid. It’s the change he didn’t make, Foden for Mount that boils my piss. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Wanderingred said: Am I right I’m thinking that Wales are effectively out? They can’t overtake both Iran and USA and they’d need to beat us by four clear goals to go above us. If they beat us 3 nil and it’s a draw tother game they could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Absolute garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Well it's typical England to put in an unde par performance when it wasn't needed. USA tidy and hard working but we're better than that. We should of course still get out of the group but we are going nowhere special with that kind of performance. Again, just so typical England. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wanderingred said: Am I right I’m thinking that Wales are effectively out? They can’t overtake both Iran and USA and they’d need to beat us by four clear goals to go above us. Not if Iran and USA draw. Beat us and they would be ahead of Iran on GD. Otherwise its bye bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketh2nd Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 If that had been the first game it wouldn't of felt so bad but I'd still of been disappointed with our performance and Southgate's lack of changing the formation so we could have a stronger hold in midfield to push on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 England will go through unless they lose to Wales by at least 4. Wales have to win… but if USA v Iran isn’t a draw, Wales have to win by at least 4 to qualify. USA can only go through if they beat Iran. Iran only need a draw to qualify, unless Wales beat England 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Sad. Thought we’d really changed our mentality in the first game. Thought, ok all those shite England games I’ve watched leading us to this tournament have been worthwhile, and we’re turning up and playing a new tune. Nope, back to Southgate-ball. Yes, difficult opponents but we were appallingly negative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: One of the best young players England have ever had, yet Jordan Henderson is the answer when we need a goal. Wilson, Maddison too ignored Uhmmmm Maddison hasn’t been fit enough to even train atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, deadredfred said: Outplayed everywhere. Which just shouldn’t happen given the calibre of players. Bringing on Henderson and not Foden speaks volumes about Southgates negative tactics. This is it,, he set us up to try and not lose,,, and just about got away with it… whst happens when we play someone actually good is a whole different matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said: One of the best young players England have ever had, yet Jordan Henderson is the answer when we need a goal. Wilson, Maddison too ignored But we didn't especially need a goal at that point, we needed to be more solid because they were all over us. Henderson did that. Maddison is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: If they beat us 3 nil and it’s a draw tother game they could Don’t it come down to booking then, Henderson sending off writes that one off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Cow n'Gate........."Our two centre backs controlled the Game" He is delusional 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, 2015 said: It's negative. Wouldn't matter who it was against, it's negative to play that way with the squad England have It wasn’t a negative side tho,people moaned in the euros with rice and phillips sat there breaking up play was negative,that starting eleven was attacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 I’ve never been Southgate out, based on what he’s achieved in the last two tournaments coming from where we were under Hodgson, but he is infuriatingly slow at making changes. Let’s be honest the whole team could have been subbed tonight but how Mount stayed on is mental. Kane was also a passenger for the last 35 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RedRock said: Sad. Thought we’d really changed our mentality in the first game. Thought, ok all those shite England games I’ve watched leading us to this tournament have been worthwhile, and we’re turning up and playing a new tune. Nope, back to Southgate-ball. Yes, difficult opponents but we were appallingly negative. Iran sat back, we scored an early goal and therefore smashed them Iran sit back we don't score an early and its a totally different game maybe 0-0 maybe a 1-0 win or even worse they get us on the break USA fantastic at pressing, poor at scoring. Score early we probably smash them. Don't score early and they get confidence to make it a difficult game I dunno what is rocket science about the above 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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