frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Great ain't it! Head of refs, Collina, said we asked the 4th officials to keep track of lost time in Russia and it sort of worked, we have asked them to be more accurate this time around" roughly translated. Think it's great, been a long time advocate of taking timekeeping away from refs as would stop the sheff utd's of this world with their antics. Hope it finds its way into domestic football 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, frenchred said: Great ain't it! Head of refs, Collina, said we asked the 4th officials to keep track of lost time in Russia and it sort of worked, we have asked them to be more accurate this time around" roughly translated. Think it's great, been a long time advocate of taking timekeeping away from refs as would stop the sheff utd's of this world with their antics. Hope it finds its way into domestic football Only if it does actually stop teams doing it, some might consider that disrupting the flow of the game is still worth it. If it doesn't actually reduce the time wasting we could all be in the ground until 17:30 on a Saturday, or gone 10pm on a weekday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Thought it was bizarre so much time was being added I don't remember there being much "time wasting" in the England game though? Maguire's injury probably lost a few minutes but 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, MarcusX said: Thought it was bizarre so much time was being added I don't remember there being much "time wasting" in the England game though? Maguire's injury probably lost a few minutes but 10? Keepers injury? 8 goals, god knows how many subs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, frenchred said: Keepers injury? 8 goals, god knows how many subs Yea that was first half and was 14 minutes Subs is a fair point, still never seen a total of 24 minutes added to a game before I don't think - except where there has been someone on the pitch or trouble or something Edited November 22, 2022 by MarcusX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Just now, MarcusX said: Yea that was first half and was 14 minutes Subs is a fair point, still never seen a total of 24 minutes added to a game before Here is Collina 'explanation You haven't seen it before because refs just don't add on the correct time lost! Chairman of Fifa's referees committee Pierluigi Collina confirmed last week that fourth officials had been instructed to keep track of time lost during the game during the tournament in Qatar, something they had also tried to do at the previous World Cup in Russia in 2018. "In Russia, we tried to be more accurate in compensating for time lost during games and that's why you saw six, seven or even eight minutes added on," he told reporters at a pre-tournament briefing. "Think about it: if you have three goals in a half, you'll probably lose four or five minutes in total to celebrations and the restart." The result of this new approach was a number of records being broken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Only if it does actually stop teams doing it, some might consider that disrupting the flow of the game is still worth it. If it doesn't actually reduce the time wasting we could all be in the ground until 17:30 on a Saturday, or gone 10pm on a weekday. Disrupting the flow of the game will never stop, we've seen games with us on top and getting momentum teams find ways of disrupting things. Fouls, injuries etc, etc just to stop the flow and stop momentum, I do think it's a tactic here to stay. I agree about time wasting, the average "ball in play" was about 54 minutes last year, if they did a Rugby version your half 5 finish wouldn't be far off. I did like the proposal of 60 minutes of actual "Ball in play" time that was going around, and having a clock on that. It could stop the time wasting we all hate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red DNA Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, frenchred said: Great ain't it! Head of refs, Collina, said we asked the 4th officials to keep track of lost time in Russia and it sort of worked, we have asked them to be more accurate this time around" roughly translated. Think it's great, been a long time advocate of taking timekeeping away from refs as would stop the sheff utd's of this world with their antics. Hope it finds its way into domestic football It is a good idea and hopefully a step in the right direction to minimise time wasting and only need time added for genuine injuries etc. If lots of time is added on for our home games it might cause a problem for people in time restricted car parking areas which people will need to allow for! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 28 minutes ago, frenchred said: Here is Collina 'explanation You haven't seen it before because refs just don't add on the correct time lost! Chairman of Fifa's referees committee Pierluigi Collina confirmed last week that fourth officials had been instructed to keep track of time lost during the game during the tournament in Qatar, something they had also tried to do at the previous World Cup in Russia in 2018. "In Russia, we tried to be more accurate in compensating for time lost during games and that's why you saw six, seven or even eight minutes added on," he told reporters at a pre-tournament briefing. "Think about it: if you have three goals in a half, you'll probably lose four or five minutes in total to celebrations and the restart." The result of this new approach was a number of records being broken It makes sense, I think I like it... wait til we're on the receiving end of a critical 99th minute goal though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 No doubt the money folk will be able to increase revenue in ad breaks and stoppages. Lovely jubbly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 I noticed how long it's been. It would give time-wastimg sides less.opportunity to hide for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, MarcusX said: Yea that was first half and was 14 minutes Subs is a fair point, still never seen a total of 24 minutes added to a game before I don't think - except where there has been someone on the pitch or trouble or something I remember it I think when there was a serious on-pitch injury v Brentford late 2000 but yes it's really rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I noticed how long it's been. It would give time-wastimg sides less.opportunity to hide for one. Until the time wasting side actually benefit! Concede in the 90th minute, then get a goal in all the time added on for their time wasting! Ideally the officials would identify time wasting extra time separately and be able to “withdraw” it in that situation, but that’s probably asking too much 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, italian dave said: Until the time wasting side actually benefit! Concede in the 90th minute, then get a goal in all the time added on for their time wasting! Ideally the officials would identify time wasting extra time separately and be able to “withdraw” it in that situation, but that’s probably asking too much That's a bit of a warped argument in all fairness, defend better! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, italian dave said: Until the time wasting side actually benefit! Concede in the 90th minute, then get a goal in all the time added on for their time wasting! Ideally the officials would identify time wasting extra time separately and be able to “withdraw” it in that situation, but that’s probably asking too much This totally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 One of life's great mysteries. In German football matches seem mostly not to attract additional time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, italian dave said: Until the time wasting side actually benefit! Concede in the 90th minute, then get a goal in all the time added on for their time wasting! Ideally the officials would identify time wasting extra time separately and be able to “withdraw” it in that situation, but that’s probably asking too much Ironically that can happen yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Great in theory, but I think back to us letting in late goals and realise we could suffer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 Dolman will still empty on 85 mins irrespective 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Dolman will still empty on 85 mins irrespective Beating the crowd/traffic beats, er, well beats anything football can give us/the good people of the Dolman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Dolman will still empty on 85 mins irrespective I might stay until 90th minute if I knew there was gonna be loads added! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 How in the hell did they get an extra 6mins! on top of the 8 mins of added time at the end of the Argentina Saudi game? it looked at one point like they were going to play all night until Argentina equalised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, pillred said: How in the hell did they get an extra 6mins! on top of the 8 mins of added time at the end of the Argentina Saudi game? it looked at one point like they were going to play all night until Argentina equalised. Bad injury to the Saudi CB during injury time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, pillred said: How in the hell did they get an extra 6mins! on top of the 8 mins of added time at the end of the Argentina Saudi game? it looked at one point like they were going to play all night until Argentina equalised. Did you miss the injury to the Saudi player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 FIFA had to wait until Neil Warnock retired from management to implement this new strategy as they figured otherwise matches involving his teams wouldn't finish on the day they commenced and the end of the football season would have to be extended from May until mid-July. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/22/world-cup-qatar-fifa-new-directive-stoppage-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Brent Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 I might feel like I’m getting some value for my money if they adopt this approach in our domestic league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 hours ago, frenchred said: Did you miss the injury to the Saudi player? I thought that was what the initial 8 mins was for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 22, 2022 Report Share Posted November 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, pillred said: I thought that was what the initial 8 mins was for. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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