OliOTIB Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Awful news. 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Terrible news for the lad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Gutted was hoping he’d be a regular second half of the season. Not necessarily starting but featuring heavily from bench. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Good luck to him hopefully back for the start of next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Real shame. Must be tough on him mentally as well as physically. Hope we're giving him suitable support 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Bloody hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Poor kid, he must be devastated. Such bloody rotten luck. He has age on his side though so fingers crossed/ I just hope he doesn`t end up another Christian Rebeiro - so much talent and not able to make it due to injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Hopefully modern medical techniques can help him, they are constantly improving in these areas. I believe the club and the Manager in particular have been very supportive of him, he's going to need that over the next few months. This really doesn't sound good though..... "He was doing really well but it just ruptured on straight line running and it’s an unfortunate event.” Edited December 7, 2022 by Port Said Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antman Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 do you really come back from this? sounds horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Antman said: do you really come back from this? sounds horrible. Benik Afobe did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Antman said: do you really come back from this? sounds horrible. Mrs Downend works for a knee surgeon and the answer is yes you can. He's an ACL specialist and has done them for a few sportsmen/women and in particular for youngsters who are at rugby playing private schools up this way. Normally the recovery time from ACL surgery is about 12 months, so unlikely to be ready for next season, although the professional recuperation he will have at the club might sped this up a little. Was it his ACL that did for Paul Cheesley? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Awful news for him. From a surgery point of view it's not that uncommon now having double or triple surgery's on an ACL, the biggest issue will be the test of character and the mental side of starting the recovery process again. Being on his own and working with just the physio, not being part of the wider team etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, !james said: Awful news for him. From a surgery point of view it's not that uncommon now having double or triple surgery's on an ACL, the biggest issue will be the test of character and the mental side of starting the recovery process again. Being on his own and working with just the physio, not being part of the wider team etc. I think I read somewhere that the club/squad were doing their best to include him whenever possible just for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Antman said: do you really come back from this? sounds horrible. 30 minutes ago, downendcity said: Mrs Downend works for a knee surgeon and the answer is yes you can. He's an ACL specialist and has done them for a few sportsmen/women and in particular for youngsters who are at rugby playing private schools up this way. Normally the recovery time from ACL surgery is about 12 months, so unlikely to be ready for next season, although the professional recuperation he will have at the club might sped this up a little. Was it his ACL that did for Paul Cheesley? Having done mine 25 years ago (right knee), things have moved on. For me they took part of my patella tendon and replaced by ruptured ACL with that. They also use hamstrings, and more recently other people’s tendons (transplants in effect). Some of the issues come from the original rupture and how much damage done to meniscus. I had two-thirds of mine taken out as it was damaged during the side hyper-extension I suffered. So part of my knee became bone-on-bone, and that wear and tear caused issues, predominantly fluid. It also meant I over compensated on my left knee and had two cartilage ops within 12 months of each other and am now about 10 years after being told I need a mini knee replacement on my left knee. I was 41 at the time and John Webb said “do you reckon you could live with it for 20 years, or else we will have to do it twice”. As I do little active stuff these days, I put it off, but the odd walk around a golf course brings fluid to both knees. I hope Ayman has done just the ACL and he can come back, but he has a long road ahead of him. Really feel for him. Re Cheese, I believe he did his cartilage, but had actually broken his knee-cap too, and it wasn’t diagnosed. Pounding the Dolman steps just made it worse. Edited December 7, 2022 by Davefevs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealwayseatcheese Posted December 7, 2022 Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Having done mine 25 years ago (right knee), things have moved on. For me they took part of my patella tendon and replaced by ruptured ACL with that. They also use hamstrings, and more recently other people’s tendons (transplants in effect). Some of the issues come from the original rupture and how much damage done to meniscus. I had two-thirds of mine taken out as it was damaged during the side hyper-extension I suffered. So part of my knee became bone-on-bone, and that wear and tear caused issues, predominantly fluid. It also meant I over compensated on my left knee and had two cartilage ops within 12 months of each other and am now about 10 years after being told I need a mini knee replacement on my left knee. I was 41 at the time and John Webb said “do you reckon you could live with it for 20 years, or else we will have to do it twice”. As I do little active stuff these days, I put it off, but the odd walk around a golf course brings fluid to both knees. I hope Ayman has done just the ACL and he can come back, but he has a long road ahead of him. Really feel for him. Re Cheese, I believe he did his cartilage, but had actually broken his knee-cap too, and it wasn’t diagnosed. Pounding the Dolman steps just made it worse. Jeez Dave, just drifted off whilst reading that and lashed me pint over keks and sofa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliOTIB Posted December 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2022 Just frustrating for him, sure he was eyeing a real first team breakthrough this season after his cameos last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 17 hours ago, Antman said: do you really come back from this? sounds horrible. Some just don't. But as Gray points out, Afobe did. The risk is you have different symmetry and flexibility between legs after ACL surgery and you can therefore put more strain on the repaired ligament. This means, having done it once, you're much more likely to be hit by it again. It can also lead to early onset arthritis in the knee apparently. I never played a game of football again after I did my ACL, but then I wasn't a professional getting professional-level treatment. Strangely, my dog has also done his ACL although after some expensive fixing, his impressive on-the-ball skills are unaffected. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 I have no idea if you are qualified to use the technical language in your post, but the picture of James Robertson Justice, who always seemed to be playing surgeons/doctors in the corner of your profile, lends everything you say a higher degree of confidence for me. 3 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Some just don't. But as Gray points out, Afobe did. The risk is you have different symmetry and flexibility between legs after ACL surgery and you can therefore put more strain on the repaired ligament. This means, having done it once, you're much more likely to be hit by it again. It can also lead to early onset arthritis in the knee apparently. I never played a game of football again after I did my ACL, but then I wasn't a professional getting professional-level treatment. Strangely, my dog has also done his ACL although after some expensive fixing, his impressive on-the-ball skills are unaffected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Port Said Red said: I have no idea if you are qualified to use the technical language in your post, but the picture of James Robertson Justice, who always seemed to be playing surgeons/doctors in the corner of your profile, lends everything you say a higher degree of confidence for me. Sir Lancelot Spratt is my management guru, but I have no medical qualifications. Was just going on what I got told at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted December 8, 2022 Report Share Posted December 8, 2022 I'm absolutely gutted for the guy. Quite aside from the severity of injury, it's looking like potentially around 18 months out at a crucial stage of his career and he's going need a strong mentality to play catch up when he comes back. Really rooting for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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