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GrahamC

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Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure.

Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%.

Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way.

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Major Isewater

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15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure.

Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%.

Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way.

These things take time. 

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Simon79

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20 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure.

Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%.

Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way.

So could be 3rd time lucky for us! is that what you’re saying? COYR 

lenred

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24 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure.

Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%.

Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way.

They aren't Jason Euell or Andy King though Graham! 

robinforlife2

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In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5.

Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster.

Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours!

We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted.

The Swan and Cemetery

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28 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5.

Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster.

Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours!

We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted.

Great to have a thread where we can all agree that context behind statistics is relevant and just quoting statistics is of limited value. 

GrahamC

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42 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said:

In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5.

Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster.

Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours!

We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted.

Interesting that you think 1 point from those 3 games “isn’t a disaster” seeing as Pearson has already got a point at Boro so presumably you’ll be happy enough if we get beat tomorrow?
Toure wasn’t in charge for two of those Wigan games so struggling to see your point.

By the way Mark Hudson 14 games in charge of Cardiff he’s won 4, Matt Taylor in charge of Rotherham for 14, he’s won two..

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GrahamC

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46 minutes ago, lenred said:

They aren't Jason Euell or Andy King though Graham! 

I’m not sure either are much more experienced than Euell, Rosenior assistant manager at Derby, Toure first team coach at Leicester.

I have no idea how Euell would do (none of us do) but would certainly see him as a similar appointment.

lenred

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14 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I’m not sure either are much more experienced than Euell, Rosenior assistant manager at Derby, Toure first team coach at Leicester.

I have no idea how Euell would do (none of us do) but would certainly see him as a similar appointment.

Indeed - it was a poor attempt at humour on my part! 

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GrahamC

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Indeed - it was a poor attempt at humour on my part! 

No worries, any humour is welcome at present.

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italian dave

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1 hour ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Great to have a thread where we can all agree that context behind statistics is relevant and just quoting statistics is of limited value. 

I’m just glad to have a thread that starts with some statistics I can follow ?

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5 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure.

Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%.

Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way.

Also Nathan Jones recorded a 3-0 defeat yesterday in his first home game in charge of Soton 

Charlie BCFC

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3 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Interesting that you think 1 point from those 3 games “isn’t a disaster” seeing as Pearson has already got a point at Boro so presumably you’ll be happy enough if we get beat tomorrow?
Toure wasn’t in charge for two of those Wigan games so struggling to see your point.

By the way Mark Hudson 14 games in charge of Cardiff he’s won 4, Matt Taylor in charge of Rotherham for 14, he’s won two..

Shows how weird the Championship that one of the wins came away to Sheffield United!

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4 hours ago, robinforlife2 said:

In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5.

Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster.

Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours!

We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted.

Out of those I’d of expected 7 points max. West Brom (on a decent run, good squad), Sheff Utd (Top 2), Watford (should be top 6), Boro (new manager and now on a decent run). 
 

Real tough league. Even Stoke and Rotherham are no gimmes. 

Mr Popodopolous

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Think that was bad?

Richardson got a 3 year deal there in last week of October then sacked by mid November!

Think he was probably harshly sacked, doubt they pay huge wages etc, promoted in post administration season and kept them in League One while still in administration and a major fire sale.

Lanterne Rouge

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Just now, AppyDAZE said:

The average expectancy of a football manager's demise is fast catching up with the lifespan of the mayfly.

Good old Watford, they`ve been ahead of the curve for years and everyone else is only just catching up.

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GrahamC

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59 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Kolo Toure sacked

Yep, absolutely abysmal appointment.

Certain clubs at the bottom (one of them just over the bridge) appear to have no strategy at all.

Blackpool last week as well, sack Appleton, approach one of Man U’s coaches (Eric Ramsay) young, progressive, passing football type, then he turns them down & they appoint Mick McCarthy! Not exactly “like for like” is it?

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19 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Yep, absolutely abysmal appointment.

Certain clubs at the bottom (one of them just over the bridge) appear to have no strategy at all.

Blackpool last week as well, sack Appleton, approach one of Man U’s coaches (Eric Ramsay) young, progressive, passing football type, then he turns them down & they appoint Mick McCarthy! Not exactly “like for like” is it?

Yepp. Along similar lines I had a giggle at some of the favourites for the Everton job.

Bielsa, Dyche, Rooney... what a mess

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1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Was an appointment that screamed failure from the minute it was made.

Exactly. I’m gutted as I had them as good as down and it’s a worry if they get someone in who’s decent and they go on a run.

pride of the west

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2 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said:

Wow…never knew Kevin Betsy was also part of the ‘staff’ who has also left…remember him anyone in City colours 

I didnt know he was their either. Last I heard he was doing something with england youth and highly regarded as an up and coming coach. 

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11 minutes ago, pride of the west said:

I didnt know he was there either. Last I heard he was doing something with england youth and highly regarded as an up and coming coach. 

Was at Crawley the start of the season having left the Arsenal u18 head coach position before then 

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1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Was an appointment that screamed failure from the minute it was made.

I had exactly the same thought seeing Duncan Ferguson on sky earlier, he hasn't a clue what FGR are all about 

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13 minutes ago, phantom said:

I had exactly the same thought seeing Duncan Ferguson on sky earlier, he hasn't a clue what FGR are all about 

Just seen that funny enough l, bit awkward with the Vegan burger, talking about the earth warming up etc. Strange they never asked for Big Dunc's thoughts about the Just Stop Oil protest at Goodison which Dale Vince funded...

Oddly enough I have a feeling he'll do alright there, did well enough on a caretaker basis at Everton and Ancelotti tried taking him to Madrid with him so must have something about him coach wise. Also would anyone want to anger him by not putting the effort in? Imagine trying to sack the bloke as well ?

Lanterne Rouge

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20 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Also would anyone want to anger him by not putting the effort in? Imagine trying to sack the bloke as well ?

He`ll have been so weakened by his new lettuce diet by then that Vince will just have to blow on him and he`ll fall over.

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Ex forest boss taken over at Cardiff , can’t spell his name. What do people think. Strange decision for me , seems a bit of a panic appointment. If I remember righty with forest , he spent loads of money but the football was terrible & very defensive 

Mr Popodopolous

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Not City related but Hull are picking up a bit under Rosenior all told.

Otoh Huddersfield were bottom 3 when taken over and still are. Toure didn't improve Wigan at all, 

McCarthy just one League game in charge so far so too early to say, Hudson didn't improve Cardiff.

None for Critchley so far at QPR bounce wise, Neil with 26 pts from 23 at Stoke isn't exactly stellar. Critchley wasn't sacked.

The two exemplary examples following accounts are of course Carrick and Corberan.

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4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Not City related but Hull are picking up a bit under Rosenior all told.

Otoh Huddersfield were bottom 3 when taken over and still are. Toure didn't improve Wigan at all, 

McCarthy just one League game in charge so far so too early to say, Hudson didn't improve Cardiff.

None for Critchley so far at QPR bounce wise, Neil with 26 pts from 23 at Stoke isn't exactly stellar.

Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. 
 

Shame. 

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GrahamC

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5 minutes ago, glynriley said:

Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. 
 

Shame. 

Cardiff have been awarded 3 this season & missed them all.

For the lowest scorers in the league that’s probably going to cost them, as I think they are now in a dogfight with Wigan, Blackpool, Huddersfield & Rotherham to go down.

glynriley

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1 minute ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

I don't mind so much not getting penalties, it means never missing one. 

Evening Gordon. 

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Fordy62

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1 hour ago, glynriley said:

Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. 
 

Shame. 

And his lad goes to the same nursery as my daughter. Can’t wait to see him! ?

Charlie BCFC

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1 hour ago, petehinton said:

 

Apparently he said the same when at Forest and they turned it around so this should be interesting if the same happens at Cardiff. Only one addition in January so not a busy one 

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